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italybound
Friday, July 14, 2006, 5:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I do know my levoxyl has dyes as it's blue/green. Need to look into alternative. Glad this was brought up.
Karen, will let you know what I find out.



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Just got my latest test results.  My T3, T4 and T7 are all within range but my TSH is still .01 which is too low.  It's been .01 ever since January and my  meds have been reduced each 6  weeks.  I guess my levoxyl needs to be even lower.  I've been wondering if it's the BTD that has affected my thyroid since it all happened at the same time.  I haven't brought it up with my doc since I really like her and if she says anything negative I'll be dissappointed.  


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.  I haven't brought it up with my doc since I really like her and if she says anything negative I'll be dissappointed.  


I can sure understand this. My NP is against BTD. I am seriously disappointed in that, but he is sooooooooooo extremely knowledgeable about so many other things, I just overlook that, discard anything he says that goes against BTD, and listen intently to everything else.



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As I read this thread, I am amazaed that  there are not more nutritional therapies available. There must be some herbs, homeopathic things, exercise protocols, diet, viatmins/minerals to help.  It's surprising that so many of you are on synthetics.  
Dr. D. What do you recommend??
S S & L,
Mrs "T"  O+

PS It seems probiotics are touted for so many things.  Do you think they would help in this?


That's where I started with all of this. I am of the mind that for "every disease there is a natural cure" - but it's a matter of finding it. I'm just sure there has to be an alternative. I got my cortiguard in the mail yesterday along with my A polyvite, B12, and Bromelain. I will be a guinea pig for awhile and check back in and see if anything changes. But there must be someone out there who has already done this, right? Who are you? Where are you? How did you conquer hypothryoidism without drugs? Tell us your story!

I know when I had PMS and menstrual probs and started taking natural progesterone - that stuff was hugely powerful (not to be toyed with without a doctor!). So there's got to be something for the thyroid.

As for the corn starch in the drugs - what about the fact that most of this comes from pigs and pork is an avoid??? Not to mention what else is in there, in terms of being an avoid?

I can certainly see why so many people with hypothyroidism are on synthetic drugs, though, just look at this thread - there's not a lot of knowledge about other options. And people are pretty savvy on this web site. That and the fact that it is really, really hard to live with the effects of hypothryoidism.

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quite often (rightly or wrongly) we blame either the thyroid or the adrenals for lack-of-energy.  Perhaps, your 'natural solution' lies completely outside where you are seeking?  Entertain having magnetic energy - a mattress at http://www.magneticosleep.com or a ring at http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/alexchiu.htm .  Yet another way to get massive energy is http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?itemid=2966&catid=64

John


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Finally got around to reading just a bit of Mary Shomon's info on about.com - that looks really helpful. I think I might get her book "Living Well with Hypothyroidism". Anyone read it yet? And thanks for the reference!

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Don't buy it!  I have the book and will send it to you. Send me your address and it's in the mail tomorrow.  


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1.  This is an EXCELLENT, substance-laden, extremely informative thread on thyroid issues!  Thanks to everyone who is contributing, this is really good stuff.

2.  There is so much to consider and sift through regarding the proper hormones and brands, etc., to take if one is diagnosed as hypothyroid.  Day-uummm!  For example, I don't want anything with cornstarch in it.  And let's not even get into the whole porcine gland thing.  omg.  But, hey, if ya need the hormone, ya need the hormone, so you have to weigh the pro's and con's of everything.  Anyway, there is just so much that one needs to educate oneself on here before proceeding.  And we (us BTDers) are pretty much the cream of the self-empowering crop when it comes to taking the bull by the horns for our own health care.  Can you imagine how many of the regular, unquestioning sort of people just take whatever they are told to take, and it might not be exactly the right thing for them?  It might even be the WRONG thing for them?  Even those of us who try to learn as much as we can could easily get confused on this thyroid hormone issue.  Boy howdy.

3.  MoDon, your posts in this thread are superlatively informative.  Very interesting about the toxic load relationship to lower temp., etc.  Scary.


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3.  MoDon, your posts in this thread are superlatively informative.  Very interesting about the toxic load relationship to lower temp., etc.  Scary.

I believe this is the cause of my health problems.



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Don't buy it!  I have the book and will send it to you. Send me your address and it's in the mail tomorrow.  


You rock! Will do - thank you!  

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MoDon, your posts in this thread are superlatively informative.  Very interesting about the toxic load relationship to lower temp., etc.  Scary.


My sister and I were talking about how when I was growing up thyroid disease was really rare and now how so many people have not only this, but hormonal problems, etc. She recently listened to something about how bad plastics are for affecting our hormones - the plastic bottles we drink out of all the time, the plastic  supplements come in (even the BTD supplements), the non-stick pans we cook in, etc. "We" = most people, however, I'm sure many people here have already started to clean this up around here. There's just so much in our environment to contend with these days. One more reason to eat BTD foods! Need the strength and immunity!!!
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I was rereading the section on thyroid disease in the BTD encyclopedia and was reminded that the recommended protocols for addressing the thyroid are the metabolic enhancement protocol and the detox protocol. I tried to do the dandelion before, but, wow, got the full on headache and felt absolutely horrid. Might try again on my upcoming vacation in August - but not if it eats up my whole time by feeling crappy.

I actually did some other alternative work on my thyroid and got enough results with that (the constipation is gone - yeah!!!), that I am going to wait it out a bit - in terms of going back on the pig drugs. I think I am in a safe enough space to be able to do that. And then I can read the book Living Well with Hypothyroidism and take it from there.

So there's my thyroid treatment plan! But I am still very open to suggestions along the way.

PS The other weird thing was that working on my thyroid helped my back - anyone know how that is related???

PPS I almost had to laugh when I read the link about the symptoms of hypothyroidism when I came to the one about digestion - how it is usually poor, but the person doesn't think so. It has taken me sooooo long to realize that when I start getting bloated up, it's all related to digestion - but has to be addressed on a thyroid level (digestive enzymes, probiotics, deflect, etc. just don't help).

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PS The other weird thing was that working on my thyroid helped my back - anyone know how that is related???



Isn't that strange?  True, though.  


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Sometimes when you get one illness, you seem to get others or have strange symptoms.........
I also thing that many illnesses are related or the same supplement can heal various things.
So what may help other hormoes may help thyroid.
Keep trying.  General detox surely must help everything!
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read her blogs on thyroid, hormones related to aches, too.


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Armour thyroid usp made from pig (porcine) thyroid.
I suggest you find other alternatives with your Dr.

Looks like pig thyroid is OK to use.
Interestingly, pig thyroid doesn't elicit the flocculation reaction in human serum that pig heart, brain or muscle tissue does.




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Thank you, Don, for the quote from Dr. D'Adamo.  I'm determined to keep using Westhroid (porcine) anyway, but now I feel very relieved to know it's okay coming from Peter's blood type research analysis.   Whew!  
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Maybe this thread has petered out, but I have more thoughts!!!

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http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archived/config.pl?read=132493
Interestingly, pig thyroid doesn't elicit the flocculation reaction in human serum that pig heart, brain or muscle tissue does.


So is it safe to infer that it's okay to take armour overall? Hmmm....

And, on another note, I keep running into literature that says spinach (which I eat all the time) is bad for the thyroid. Seeing as how I am not on medication anymore, I really need one of those nifty little books titled "Thyroid Disease: Fight It with the Blood Type Diet".  Wouldn't everyone else like that, too? There's my thought for the day.

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the link is not working.....


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Go to post 65 where I originally posted the link/quote.

I also fixed the link in post 67.


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I have been reading about how coconut oil has had an amazing effect on thyroid patients. I see that coconut meat and milk are avoids for us O's, but I wonder whether the oil will be ok as those who have to avoid dairy can use ghee? Has anyone read thought about trying the oil?  
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I have been reading about how coconut oil has had an amazing effect on thyroid patients. I see that coconut meat and milk are avoids for us O's, but I wonder whether the oil will be ok as those who have to avoid dairy can use ghee? Has anyone read thought about trying the oil?  


coconut oil is an avoid for all except O nonnies. Good question tho.  



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Good reason to get my secretor status checked.
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Hi, I was wondering if a Copper deficiency could cause hyperthyroidism.  I've noticed that alot of food high is copper help me and when I supplemented w/ zinc which depletes copper and I got really ill.  I only tryed it because people said it was good for colds.  I also found that when I treat myself for mercury poisoning I feel better which is said to make copper and zinc unstable, I've heard.  Any truth to this?
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