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Nelah
Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 4:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have hypothyroidism, but I'm type A.  From what I've read, most of the people who've replied to this topic are type Os.  I wonder if hypothyroidism is more common in type Os.  

I'm also wondering whether certain treatments are more effective for type As than type Os or Bs or ABs.  Personally, I've tried kelp (some help), L-tyrosine supplements (no help), and Synthyroid (which threw my whole body off--I couldn't sleep).  I'm pretty new to the BTD, and I notice digestion especially is much better when I eat BTD foods.

So is there a type-specific treatment for hypothyroidism?
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Paulppaul
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I'm not quit sure if I have hypothyrodism but I think I do.  I am trying the basal body temperature reading that you do in the mornings to see if my temperature is low.  My temperature throughout the day has been around 97.3F orally, this seems low, is it?  I find that brazil nuts help me to feel better but I don't know if my symptoms are HT related.  Anyone try these?  
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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?73
I would look for something beneficial instead to give me the same results.


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I think the reason they help is the high selenium, any alternatives?  I just checked my temperature 30 minutes after eating 10 brazil nuts and it is now 98.2F and I feel a lot more relaxed and calm which I haven't felt for a couple of days.  I know the negative affects will catch up though.  
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try 10 walnuts instead.


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Selenium is readily available as a supplement.


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I had read some information some time ago about environmental toxins and thyroid health, but couldn't find that reference so I googled it. (I think I originally saw it in mailings from some of the organizations I belong to who promote organics and are against pesticides.)

One site I found is exhaustive, covering many health problems:
http://tuberose.com/Environmental_Toxicity.html

(By the way they have lots of other info on the site,lots of it health related-- I did not look at that stuff and am not advocating it.)

I have copied the pertinent info below. I was interested to note that one substance mentioned (nitrosamines) was mentioned in another thread here regarding smoked foods; and PABA is a common ingredient in a variety of commercial products.

It is worth looking at for anyone who has thyroid issues or other issues that could be toxicity-related. As an Explorer I am on the lookout for such things.

Thyroid

The thyroid is not immune to environmental toxins, as many chemicals can cause a reduction of both T4 and T3. Thiocyanates, perchlorates, and pertechnetates are all competitive inhibitors of iodine transport in the thyroid, causing decreases in T4 and T3 and an increase in thyroid stimulating hormone TSH. Compounds which inhibit the thyroid peroxidase needed in the second step of thyroid hormone synthesis include:

* thiourea

* thiouracil

* PTU

* Carbimazole

* Aniline derivatives

* PABA

* Substituted phenols like resorcinol

* Phloroglucinol

Iodide and lithium block thyroid hormone release from the gland itself. Depressed levels of thyroid function have been correlated with exposures to lead, mercury, carbon disulfide, and PBBs. Lead workers, a heavily studied population, appear to suffer from a decrease in thyroid, secondary to problems with the hypothalamus (TRF). In Michigan, PBB-exposed persons showed non-goitrogenic thyroid dysfunction. Less well documented, but suggested to adversely affect the thyroid, are:

* organophosphates

* carbamates

* OCCs

* Fungicides

* Food coloring

* PCBs

Inducers of hepatic cytochrome P450 like Phenobarbital, benzodiazepines, calcium-channel blockers, steroids, retinoids, chlorinated hydrocarbons, and polyhalogenated biphenyls will (in addition to inducing P450) cause alteration in thyroid structure, leading to reduction in T4. Besides causing reduced functioning, some compounds will also cause thyroid cancer. Polycyclic hydrocarbons, nitrosamines, and other compounds are initiators of thyroid carcinogenesis. A common component of permanent hair dye preparations, 2,4-diaminoanisole sulfate (2,4-DAAS), when fed at high doses, caused a 58% incidence of thyroid neoplasms in male rats and 42% in females, compared with 7-8% in controls.
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Leoswench
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My Chiropractor was the first to call me on my thyroid issues also. Not my OB/GYN go figure. But I love my Chiro.

Hypothyroidism is so much more than a weight issue. I think because we are all trying to focus on our health and how we are eating it's our focus but actually having this disease is not to be taken lightly. I've been taking meds for 20 years.  I have the added component of mine being hoshimotos which is an autoimmune thyroid disease.

I have stopped taking my meds before while I was pregnant with my first child and other times when I haven't had health insurance. There isn't a way for your thyroid to rebound without the meds it will grow in size and if left to long you will feel it against your larnyx. (Not good) Not to mention the propencity to bite peoples heads off Hormones are a crazy thing but we all need them to balance out our systems. TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) runs your metabolism and nervous system and I wish there was a way around it with something natural but the over the counter stuff isn't going to replace what your body needs. It's thyroid from other animals not of our genetic make up. I tried when I didn't have insurance and it just wasted my time and money. Not sure why they sell it.

Anyway my diatribe is over I just hate to see anyone go thru the struggles I did when I wasn't on medication it's always good to get it checked out if you suspect something is going on, frequent headaches finger nails peeling, dry hair, depression these were my first indicators.
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I NEED HELP!!!

I am a 25/f, Type O, and I started the ER diet three months ago. I had done it before, and it had done wonders with my health and energy, but bad habits caught up with me and I dropped the ball. This time I completely gave up all of the "avoids" and created a well balanced diet with the beneficial/neutral foods.  Before I started the diet, I was having problems with fatigue, and I figured the diet would help (like last time).

However, three months into it (with the addition of exercise) and I feel awful. I feel so fatigued/ sleepy all of the time. It's hard for me to fall asleep, but after I do, I get about 9-10 hours of sleep and wake up feeling like it's not enough. I got muscle cramps after even the mildest exercise (walking to school), and I get winded when I do simple things like climb stairs. I feel like I should be the picture of perfect health: perfect diet, exercise, and vitamin supplements, but I just feel like I'm getting worse!

I have been to my primary doctor and she did a number of tests, ruling out heart and lung issues. My blood tests were "normal", with my TSH (thyroid level) at 2.67, and my glucose at an abnormally high 106 (fasting levels!). My other symptoms (other than fatigue) are constipation, minor bleeding between periods, muscle cramps, and a low body temperature (around 97.5+/- usually). I have the temperament and symptoms of depression (sadness, irritability, crying, inability of focus or concentrate), but something has to be causing it and the other symptoms too. All of these seem like thyroid issues, but according to my doc, my TSH level of 2.67 is normal. And I can't get to an endo for more advanced thyroid function tests because they require a referral from a general practitioner.

With my diet and exercise, I feel like I should be doing so well. But something is wrong, and I can't figure it out. Could I still have a thyroid issue even if my TSH level was in the "normal" range? I'm going insane. I need energy to finish my school/degree!

Anyone with advice, please help. Thanks.
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A friend had to be tested several times. It seemed that her thyroid was an on and off again worker. She was told that they would have to catch it on a off period for it to show on test. If your tests keep coming out normal maybe you should have your magnesium checked. I've been hearing alot about magnesium. There is a real problem here in the US.  leg cramps, glucose control, depresson, fatigue. If you are taking calcium,zinc & /or iron you should take magnesium. There is a thread were someone gave the numbers to take of magnesium to calcium. Maybe they'll see this.


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Hi there

My name's Marta, I live in Poland. I'm 0+. I'm looking for help and I hope it's a right place to get some. Yesterday I visited my endocrinologist and I found out, that I'm hyperthyroidism. I have underweight (46 kg, 1,65 high). I miscarried 5 months ago. I'm 30 and I really want to have a baby, it's about time... My doctor prescribed my some medicaments to calm my thyroid. I'm affraid, because they have lots of side effects. Does anybody know any natural methods of treatment? Can the right eating (for blood type)be helpful? please help.

Another question, what is blood secretor? is it important? And how to check what genotyp I am (Explorer ect.)?

Thank you in advance    
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Marta,
Eating Right 4 Your Type will help your whole body function at its best.

The Blood Type Diet Encyclopedia suggests Metabolic Enhancement and Detoxification Protocols found here:  http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm

Secretor is whether your blood type information is found in your non-blood, body fluids, such as saliva and other digestive fluid, etc...  For a test, I would contact the EU distributor - http://www.right4eu.com

To determine Genotype, read "The Genotype Diet" book, and / or order the SWAMI software access code, do the measurements and determine your genotype from the tables in the book or have the software calculate it and provide your personal diet guidelines...

Much success in healing...


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it is important you read the book first

there are utube videos for support here as well


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I am hypothyroid, and I take Apex Energentics. I also have (had I think) adrenal fatigue. I have not lost weight on these supplements but now that I started the O diet I have begun to lose weight quickly (yay!). The supplements did give me back a ton of energy and my hair stopped falling out. I was on 6 pills daily of each of these: Thyraxis PT, Thyro CNV, and Opticrine, but because they were making me sweat excessively, the Dr brought me down to 4 pills a day. I'm still sweating like crazy (its so embarrassing but I am loving the energy...I hardly used to sweat before). I had my control blood test last week and in ten days I get to find out if I can stop taking these or if I can lower them to 2 pills a day. I can't wait to see my blood work. I was also anemic, and was pretty dehydrated from working out so much (this was another test they did which also told me my body fat %, etc. I actually have lower fat % than my skinny husband, even though when I had the test I had recently gained 20 lbs, I dunno if that's an O thing or a Hunter thing, the low body fat %).
But anyhow, these are called compounds I think, as opposed to Armour (natural dessicated thyroid) and straight up meds like Levothyroxine. Thyraxis PT has per each pill 100 mg of bovine thyroid and 75 mg of porcine pituitary.

My thyroid got really bad when I took an antibiotic and got on birth control for a temporary acne condition...I was so exhausted I literally felt like I had to drag myself around...it was horrible. After stopping the BC and getting on these three supplements, within 30 days I was a different person. I also got back on a really good liquid multivitamin with resveratrol, and started taking a strong probiotic (15 billion) and fish oil capsules (which I now switched to straight up liquid flax seed oil).

Anyhow, these were my thyroid levels at the time I got put on these pills:

TSH 1.4
Free T3 2.6 (ideal is 3.2-5.0)
Free T4 1.17 (ideal is 1.5-2.0)


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well". Psalm 139

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I also wanted to add the importance of getting blood work done for a thyroid condition by an ND before trying out supplements...I know some family members of mine have asked me what I am on and I have told them to get tested first. Just because someone is overweight doesn't mean they have a thyroid condition.
I tried supplementing with whatever I could get my hands on before being properly diagnosed (I had been tested twice before by regular MDs and they said I was within normal range, therefore fine). I tried kelp capsules, coconut oil, magnesium, chromium, anything and everything I thought would give me energy and/or help me stop the weight gain. The kelp capsules almost made me faint. Once I made myself a turmeric mask (with a little bit of lemon juice, this was for the acne I mentioned above) and as I started rubbing it in my face I almost fainted as well...it brought my blood pressure down tremendously (I already have it pretty low to begin with). I am a clear example of someone who reads things (especially on those bi-weekly mags for women, lol) and goes out and tries them. Selenium also made me sick, since I did see someone posting about brazil nuts (the nuts themselves didn't do anything, just the selenium supplement).


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well". Psalm 139

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Jesi,
you ll be very pleased with your gt diet results!


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I am beyond ecstatic. In ten days I've lost at least 4-5 lbs. My husband is shocked...he wants to know his genotype asap!


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well". Psalm 139

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wonderful!!
get him started, your journey will be more fun!
keep up the compliance!


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I see there hasn't been a post in a year...  But here is my question.

I've been taking thyroid medication for about 30 years:  synthroid, Armour, and levothyroid with cytomel when Armour was unavailable.  Now back to Armour

I've been following the BYD for about 2 weeks now, and I'm curious as to whether I should add kelp, seaweeds, and iodized salt.

I had read somewhere that I should not use iodized salt if I am on the medication.  Does anyone know?

Thanks,
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http://thyroid.about.com/blinterviews.htm

Here is a link that you might like to look into, Nadira. Very informative! Lots of questions answered.


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Thanks Spring!
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