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Sunday, June 25, 2006, 1:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I seem to get a small keloid scar every time I get a bug bite or other injury. My MD doesn't seem concerned at all about this as they are symetrical and smooth.  Is there something I am missing in my diet or something I could add, or put on topically to get them to go away? I am more than 90 -95% compliant following the O non way of eating (biggest challenge is not eating any sweetener at all) - I like just a little maple syrup on my pumpkin or squash, or on almond meal pancakes. (If this has been discussed before please point me toward the information as I have not been able to find it)  Thanks
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I think there is a product available over the counter called Mederma?  Not sure of the name but I think that's it.  That does help reduce scars.

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Keloids! I also scar. I am the only one in my family I know of who does. I have tried everything. There are shots you inject directly into the keloid that will reduce it, but I do not think what we ingest will change this. I was told by one of the top specialists in the country that it is hereditary.
If you keloid, you can also scar internally, so you need to be extra careful if you need surgery. Too many scars and the lymph system cannot circulate properly.

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I get nasty scars as do my sons.  I have found massaging the scar and body brushing takes away the nasty, shiny bumpy look.  I still have "purple" colouring for a few years, but eventually they fade.  

If I can keep the scar out of the sun for the first season, they tend to reduce faster than ones that get sun exposed.  I have tried the silicone patches on the biggest ones and they do help to reduce the bump and the colouring, extremely expensive though.
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Isn't Vit E applied topically supposed to reduce scarring?

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Hi RH,

I bought this oil to help heal my hipbone to hipbone incision from my hysterectomy.
Info from their website:

"Proven to reduce scars and help prevent scar formation

Sold in pharmacies and safe for use

Doctor recommended and proven effective

100% Pure, all Natural, and CERTIFIED ORGANIC. Results guaranteed"

I have since relied on it for two punch biopsies (3 and 4mm holes they punched out of my leg and forearm) and I have been pleased with the help it has provided. It is pricey, though and one has to be diligent about application for a long time. They do have a moneyback guarantee but I don't know the details. Is patience one of your virtues?  

Here is their website.

Hope it's helpful.

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Thanks for all of the information.  I have been told that patience is one of my virtues (but I think it has more to do with how I treat other people than my attitude toward my own body - but I'm willing to learn.) I have tried using vitamin E before but perhaps didn't use it long enough. I will check with my siblings to see if they also get the scars.  I may have the fairest skin of all 4 of us though.  I'm not sure if that makes a difference.  I had never thought about scarring on the inside.  So far I have only had laporoscopic surgery one time.  I don't plan on having any other surgery if I can help it.
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Vitamin E did not work for me.
Brushing and massaging my scars only elongated them.
I've tried almost everything, except the product recommended by LuHu. I would like to try it out.

I am also quite pale. The specialist asked me if I had American Indian or Jewish blood. Apparently, are genetic makeup is influenced as far back as 7 generations. Well, I doubted what he said, but I went home and asked all my living relatives. Well, as it turns out, I am from Canada and my father is French Canadian. I have a great, great grandmother who was American Indian. I was also surprised (because my father's family are basically all Catholics and my mother is German and a protestant) to learn some relatives date back to the first Jewish settlers in Eastern Canada. So, there you go.

Blame it all on genetics! I am just mad  that I keloid and both my parents do not. My sister doesn't and neither do any of uncles, aunts, grandparents or cousins! What a bummer!

But my search to heal my keloids has lead me to investigate all kinds of natural therapies, including BTD. And that I do not regret!

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Adele Davis was a big proponant of Vitamin E for scars.  Her general recommendation was to apply the oil from Vitamin E capsules topically to the scarred area twice per day, along with 200 units taken internally after each meal.  (This is from Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit.)  She doesn't say how long this therapy should continue, but the implication is that it's best to start it immediately after the injury occurs and continue until healing is complete.

She swore by it, but I have no personal experience to go by, so I'm just paraphrasing her.


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I have found that pure vitamin E oil (It is available in bottles now, so you don't have to pierce capsules) massaged twice a day into new scars will heal them and help them fade.  

I was thinking about gotu kola used internally, because I have read (somewhere non-blood type related) that it will prevent Keloids.  So I checked the BTD Encyclopedia..p.566:
"Aids in rapid wound healing, chronic venous insufficiency, mental function, minor burns, scars, skin ulcers varicose veins and wound healing."

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I also get these keloid scars.  I was told they were a genetic trait too.  I am pretty fair=skinned with Irish/Scottish ancestry mostly, but have American Indian in my ancestry as well somewhere back.  Interesting.  I had a knot on my arm and leg that I had taken off several years ago, but the keloid that the dermatologist and surgeon left looks as bad or worse than the knot did!!!!  

I may try the Vit. E oil.  It's pretty inexpensive.  Just wondering, is this more of a nonnie problem?  Seems like somebody told me that it is a sign of an overactive immune system.  The body is trying to heal the wound and does too good of a job.  Thus, overactive immune system....

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body brushing has reduced my cesarean scar.......
applying the oil after taking a shower, also......

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