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mikendomsmum
Sunday, June 18, 2006, 4:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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For the last two nights I haven't been able to sleep.  The first night my mind was wide awake and the second night I just couldn't sleep at first and then woke up several times feeling very awake.  Each morning I woke up with a terrible backache.  All the muscles from top to bottom are sore to the touch.  
The only medication I take is levoxyl, which could be too much right now as it's been decreased several months in a row because of high TSH levels on my blood tests.  Could this be causing my symptoms?


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For the last two nights I haven't been able to sleep.  The first night my mind was wide awake and the second night I just couldn't sleep at first and then woke up several times feeling very awake.  Each morning I woke up with a terrible backache.  All the muscles from top to bottom are sore to the touch.  
The only medication I take is levoxyl, which could be too much right now as it's been decreased several months in a row because of high TSH levels on my blood tests.  Could this be causing my symptoms?


If I understand thryoid issues correctly, if your dosage is too high, it could tip you to hyperthyroidism. Insomnia is a symptoms of this.  I'm sure someone w/ more knowledge will address this for you.
Do you have something weighing on your mind? Even if not consciously, maybe subconsciously?
Have you eaten any avoids in the past 2 or 3 days? Sometimes they take a day or so to catch up.  Some avoids make me feel SO awful and sore.
How old is your mattress? I know from personal experience an old mattress can play h*ll on your body. Even if it is old and hasn't been bothering you, this just could be the day that your body can't take anymore.



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No, nothing on my mind.  I've been eating very good lately.  Had two avoids last night but that was the second night of no sleep, no avoids for several days before that.  Mattress probably could use a turn.  Could be hyperthyroid, have been for 6 months, ever since I began BTD.  Meds are being reduced slowly to correct this.  I test again next week.


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.  Could be hyperthyroid, have been for 6 months, ever since I began BTD.  I test again next week.


Glad you're getting retested soon, but if it keeps on, is there a chance you can get in sooner and have them put a rush on your results? Sleep deprivation is nothing with which to toy around. Tho, I'm sure you already know that.



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Glad you're getting retested soon, but if it keeps on, is there a chance you can get in sooner and have them put a rush on your results? Sleep deprivation is nothing with which to toy around. Tho, I'm sure you already know that.


You bet.  After two nights I'm wrecked.  I have a big father's day dinner to cook tonight for company and my kids want to go swimming today. Usually that would make for a good day for me, I love to cook and swim.  I just feel heavily burdened today, though.  


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I agree with your own assessment, really.  As I was reading your symptoms the first thought that ran through my mind was whether or not you had thyroid issues.  I had the exact same symptoms at one point when I was taking too much Synthroid.  Actually, I felt as though I had no control over the insomnia and the backache as I was doing everything right!  I was following BTD beautifully, doing my exercises, walking, seeing the chiropractor on a regular basis, etc.

Thyroid issues have to be paid attention to.  That's what I have found.  It also helped me immensely to change from Synthroid to Westhroid.  Armour is good, too.
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Has your Dad passed away, and you may be feeling it unconsciously (or unable to see him today)
Hope your able to catch up on your rest.
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Nope. Dad's alive and well.  
I do well on levoxyl.  I will have my next test within 2 weeks, I test every 6 weeks.  I have to stay on the same amount until I test so the results are valid.  I'm going swimming with the kids now so maybe I'll wear myself out and sleep tonight.  I hope so!
Thanks!!


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Are you getting your calcium at night?  Two nice big doses before you go to bed?


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checking hormone levels wouldn t be such a bad idea, also.


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Are you getting your calcium at night?  Two nice big doses before you go to bed?


Now here's the confusion, some say take calcium in the morning and magnesium at night, that the magnesium helps you to sleep.  Then others say to take the calcium at night, that IT helps you sleep.  So, really, which is it?  



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Are you getting your calcium at night?  Two nice big doses before you go to bed?


Yup.  Take two before bed.


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This would be my suggestion 1.5 hours before you go to bed, I'd take 500mg.  Then, right when you go to bed, take another 500mg.



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That's calcium, right?  What about magnesium.  I don't have any of that.  I'll have to get some.
I appreciate the help.  I love sleep and it's horrible to lay awake most of the night.  One night is bad but two in a row really stinks.  I'm going to try the calcium tonight, twice.  


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I know all too well what it's like not having sleep.  I went through a year or so of sleep deprivation.  It was due to me having to urinate all night, after a year i got some help from a cable health show and they actually figured out what was wrong with me.  My doctor's had no clue.  Anyways after a year of not sleeping much it was really starting to take a toll on me, I felt unhealthy, looked unhealthy and was unhealthy.  Sleep deprivation does a number on your overall health.  Soo i wouldn't play around with it.

Good Luck!!!!



BTW,

Does anyone have any suggestions of a good calcium supplement that i can get at the HFS, that's not too costly but effective.  I'd like to take Dr. D's, but can't afford it right now.

Thanks!
Mickey




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That's calcium, right?  What about magnesium.  I don't have any of that.  I'll have to get some.
I appreciate the help.  I love sleep and it's horrible to lay awake most of the night.  One night is bad but two in a row really stinks.  I'm going to try the calcium tonight, twice.  


Yes. That much calcium.  I would recommend Dr. D's Phytocal.  That has some magnesium in it I believe....without getting up outa my chair and checking the bottle.

If all you have at home is a calc-mag. combo, then use that.  Should be fine.

Mickey,

Do you have a Whole Foods near you?  Their house brand usually is cheaper that the name brand lines.


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Can one take 2 calcium when also taking niacin 3-500 mg b4 bed and what about magnesium same question.
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If you are taking B vitamins at night ~ and have trouble getting to sleep ~ switch to taking your B's during the day.

Taking magnesium with your calcium is fine.


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I have ClearCal and CitriCal neither of them have magnesium so I'm going to have to pick some up tomorrow.  After cooking a father's day dinner and cleaning up (most of it) I'm exhausted.  I hope I can sleep tonight.  


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I have ClearCal and CitriCal neither of them have magnesium  


How did you sleep last night? Hope better, especially since you were so exhausted. I thought Phytocal had mag in it. Well, let's check................yes 66.6 mg. it looks like on my monitor, but that's not nearly enough.  Try and find a magnesium citrate. ClearCal actually doesn't have mag and that in itself makes me want to get Phytocal, plus it has a lot of other stuff in it, but $$ prohibits right now. Maybe next time.



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Slept!  The entire night except to get up once.  I feel great this morning.  I noticed last night I was all blown up.  My clothes were tight and even my feet felt "tight".  Must have been retaining water.  Took care of that when I got up that once.  
It was a very strange and uncomfortable few days, I'm glad it's over.  


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  {{HUGS}} Glad you're feeling better!



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Oh, thank you!  I actually forgot to take the calcium last night, I was so wiped.  I had a bottle (big one) of mineral water though, so I did get some.  
I appreciate all the concern and help.  
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You are so right!!!  



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Karen, how are you feeling these days?  



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