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I hope I'm posting in the right section.
I am just entering slooooowwly into menopause and I've noticed a dramatic decrease in libido, has anyone else experienced this? If so what have you done, or what are you doing to help or prevent this from happening. Also the forgetfulness, tiredness and feeling a bit crazed sometimes... I did go to the Dr. last week and had a full physical and everything came back perfect. I'm not sure what else I can do, so I'm hoping someone has a suggestions as I'm getting to the end of my rope.
Thank you for any suggestions!
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| Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 5:44pm |
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Oh, welcome to the wonderful world of menopause. Decreased libido is definitely a side effect. Or a direct effect as the case may be.  I found that poor adrenals contribute a lot to this. Bloodwork will show if your adrenals are weak, IF the person who is looking at them knows how to read for that. I take adrenal medicine and my pills are referred to as my sex pills.  They do help. Do they make me overcome w/ desire? No. But at least things are better than they were before I started taking them. I use Pantothenic acid and a raw adrenal concentrate. I am NOT, however, advising you to use these products without your doctor's consent. This is just what I use and they work well. Hope someone else has some better info and I'm sure they will.  |
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| Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 9:23pm |
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a compound chemist might be able to prepare your personal estrogen cream.
with the results of your hormone panel test.
they re called bio-identical hormones ( less aggressive than the chemical HRT) |
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| Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 9:39pm |
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Look it up in the Blood Type Encyclopedia and, one at a time, experiment with the prescriptions in the A protocol. |
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the new book of the health series on meno. just came out!
can t wait to read it. |
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| Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 10:47pm |
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Has anyone seen it yet??? !! |
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| Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 10:53pm |
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| jayney-O |
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Yeah, the libido...where did it go? I tried taking maca but the kind I was taking had a gum in it so I stopped. Also I developed a slightly tender breast....(estrogen?) otherwise it worked well...libido somewhat increased and sleep enhanced...Jayney-0
I thought: well estrogen isn't good for you so.......any feedback? |
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Jayney, It's a very individual matter. Maca is a very good herb if it's right for your body, but if you are already estrogen dominate, you may be pushed over the top. On the other hand, if your estrogen is way too low, Maca could be just what you need. What's working for one, may not work for another. |
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Hi oonu, That happens to me too, I'm getting into menopause very slowly as well. My gynaecologist recommend me capsules of oenothera biennis oil. Although it's an oil recommended for PMS it has worked wonders for me, so ask your doctor if it would be fine for you. Gemma |
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capsules of oenothera biennis oil.
where would one find this? gemmaspain, I just googled for this oil and it is evening primrose oil, which is an avoid for O's. Just thought I'd pass that along |
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Have your doctor do an estrogen, progesterone and testosterone panel via saliva. If they cannot do that get blood tests 1x per week for the duration of your cycle. (1x per week for 4 weeks).
Lack of testosterone is the killer in libido. If you are high in estrogen and low in testosterone and progesterone, your drive could be lacking. Your doctor can prescribe the right combination of bio identical hormones in creams or sublinguals. |
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| Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 3:55pm |
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would your OB do that or your regular doctor? |
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| Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 4:32pm |
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It could be either, but the important thing is to find a doctor that you like and who is willing to work with you in the way that you want without insisting that things be done his/her way. Hormones are a delicate issue and need to be dealt with very carefully. As Jeanb said, there are bioidentical hormones that are so much better for the body. And you need a doc who will test you before giving you hormones. A lot of docs imbalance our bodies much worse by prescribing without knowing what kind of hormone levels we already have.
There are different ways of testing, and also different opinions about what is best. I had both the blood panel and the saliva test, and they gave very different readings. The Obgyn Dr. did the blood test, and the N.D. gave the saliva test. A different N.D. in town prefers the urine test for hormones, so I don't know actually. I think I trust the saliva more than blood, but hopefully others will chime in here with some educated perspectives. |
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| Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 4:38pm |
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Quoted from Victoria
hopefully others will chime in here with some educated perspectives.
Hopefully so, because that's pretty many different ways in which to test. I am going to a new dr next mth that knows that BTD and I think even eats on it. The gal (Ginger) that gave me her name just loves her. Ginger's mom even knows and eats on the BTD. I need to give HER a call, as there are not many BTD'ers in this neck of the woods. |
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| Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 4:56pm |
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One thing I know is that Progesterone levels have to be checked by saliva, because the blood test doesn't work for that one. Naturopaths generally prefer the saliva test, and only one Naturopath I've known, preferred the urine test. So I think if you have to get the saliva test anyway to check Prog. level, you may as well have all the hormones checked as well. Great Smoky Mountains Labs does the test and it's not usually covered by insurance. |
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Hi Isa,  If a person is already high in one of the hormones, say, Estrogen for example. Wouldn't DHEA cause that hormone to continue to rise, and make a worse imbalance? |
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I saw that mostly DHEA acts onto the hormons which are slow at this case  and no interaction onto hormons which are at their best.... but if there's a estrogen overload... so yup must agree there might be something happening  and yes mostly is DHEA taken for loosing weight, because it decreases enormously fats... I saw this now with a friend of mine...she is only the half of the weight she had before...made now some 1,5 years and she looks like a boy...... very thinny and a little harder in her face...all fats were gone..... |
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Tomatilla, Who are you, and what have you done with our Isa??  !! |
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I have just started reading a book by Leslie Kenton called "Passage to Power" which is a fascinating in depth read on how our hormones affect us, and what may help to balance our hormones naturally, and she also sees menopause as a positive stage in women's lives - a period of re-evaluation of who you really are, leading to greater personal freedom and power. Even though I am not quite at the peri-menopause stage (I hope) this book is very helpful for me too. It should be easily available from Amazon, according to her website. http://www.lesliekenton.comThere's also a book listed called "Ten Steps to a Natural Menopause" which may be worth a look. It seems that natural progesterone is safe and effective for a variety of symptoms. Not sure about the libido specifically. I'll try and remember to have a look. |
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Oh, well......ok, Isa. Just so you're still YOU, I don't care what you are called!  Tomatilla. I like that. It sounds like you. |
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