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miltoncat
Saturday, July 9, 2005, 4:32pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I am on a candida cleanse, directed by my herbalist (Para-Gone). Has anyone else done something like this, and how did you feel afterward?
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Saturday, July 9, 2005, 5:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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are you sure you're on para-gone?  I thought there was one that was just for candida by the same company... anyways i did the paragone thing and i didn't really notice anything, for the first couple days i was a little more tired than usual, which may have been die-off but who knows
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If you can find a doctor who will prescribe it, I had good sucess with Diflucan (Fluconazole) although I had to start with an eighth of a tablet and gradually build up to a normal dose.


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CarolineC
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sorry Daisy.....i didn't use either of those products..

I did  choose to  do it naturally without Diflucan and I didn't have parasites....I do think there are some  people that used the Diflucan and  then  used supplements, hopefully they will pop  in and post.
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It's definitely Para-Gone. It takes care of candida and parasites. I've been on a lot of medications, including the Pill, for years. I've had numerous ear infections that were candida... doctors said it looked like I had lost a Q-tip cotton in my ear. I am taking Red Clover diluted in water to counteract the "die-off" symptoms.
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debs
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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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red clover.thats a new one on me.do you feel its working?what were your die off symptoms?


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Current die-off symptoms are aching, mainly. My hips ached last night. On a prior cleanse (a chinese herb combo) I had fierce die-off reactions... lightheaded, spacey, aching and generally feeling horrible.

The Para-Gone seems to be doing much better for me.

The red clover helps. I take 2 tbsp to 1 quart of water and drink it throughout the day. My herbalist wants me to do this every day for a week. The taste isn't too great but it's not awful. I am also taking milk thistle.

Apparently I am more toxic than either of us realized!
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Quoted from miltoncat
Current die-off symptoms are aching, mainly. My hips ached last night. On a prior cleanse (a chinese herb combo) I had fierce die-off reactions... lightheaded, spacey, aching and generally feeling horrible.

The Para-Gone seems to be doing much better for me.

The red clover helps. I take 2 tbsp to 1 quart of water and drink it throughout the day. My herbalist wants me to do this every day for a week. The taste isn't too great but it's not awful. I am also taking milk thistle.

Apparently I am more toxic than either of us realized!


Cat,

I just thought of something, not sure if it would help...but there is a red clover  tea. Not sure what it taste like. Here is a link that talks about it..but I have seen it time and time  again at the HFS and Whole Foods http://www.vitaminwarehouse.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/29579#Ingredients. I think I was thinking maybe you could add a little lemon to it and it might be better

I restarted  the Candex yesterday...(I was without it for a week and half) and BANG.. here comes the die off symptoms again. this morning finger  joints are painful and tongue is not feeling so hot either.  It kinda  feels like a bad case of PMS.
Just remember....Day by day we are winning the  battle.  Did anyone see War of the Worlds yet. I am not a Tom Cruise fan, won't even go there, but I do  love the little  girl Dakota Fanning (sp?)  I decided while watching it , which I did BTE 2/3 of it by peeking thru my fingers. The aliens" reminded me of Candida with all its tenticles. BUT they did win, just was a hell of a battle!
Caroline



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debs
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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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hi caroline i think it was your thread i was looking for.about the candex.is that the one which kills the candida & takes it out at same time?how much is it etc?where can i get it here?thanks


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miltoncat
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Quoted from CarolineC


Cat,

I just thought of something, not sure if it would help...but there is a red clover  tea. Not sure what it taste like. Here is a link that talks about it..but I have seen it time and time  again at the HFS and Whole Foods http://www.vitaminwarehouse.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/29579#Ingredients. I think I was thinking maybe you could add a little lemon to it and it might be better

I restarted  the Candex yesterday...(I was without it for a week and half) and BANG.. here comes the die off symptoms again. this morning finger  joints are painful and tongue is not feeling so hot either.  It kinda  feels like a bad case of PMS.
Just remember....Day by day we are winning the  battle.  Did anyone see War of the Worlds yet. I am not a Tom Cruise fan, won't even go there, but I do  love the little  girl Dakota Fanning (sp?)  I decided while watching it , which I did BTE 2/3 of it by peeking thru my fingers. The aliens" reminded me of Candida with all its tenticles. BUT they did win, just was a hell of a battle!
Caroline




I'll look into the tea, but will probably stick with what I have since I paid for it and all. Lemon is a good idea.

Hah, candida like aliens! It grosses me out to think I'm carrying live candida along with the gross dead candida. I assume the candida carcasses get taken out through normal elimination?
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debs
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i'm not sure they all get eliminated.someone mentioned the live candida feed off the dead candida.like little cannibals.yuk


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Quoted from debs
i'm not sure they all get eliminated.someone mentioned the live candida feed off the dead candida.like little cannibals.yuk



yep, they sure  do! Desparate Candida do  desparate things to survive! now isn't that a pleasent thought!
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I've done the spit test twice now after reading about it the other day.  No candida.  Something's still a problem.  I'm thinking it's the virus again that my AK keeps finding.  Some type of influenza I think.  So any of you suffer from a viral infection?  Sometimes I take Oregon Grape Root and Olive Leaf Extract.  It does seem that the symptoms are less severe.  But they're nothing like the symptoms of the flu.  It's a kind of prickly feeling inside of me.  Just a strange sensation that I finally recognize as the virus acting up again.  It completely stops my digestion.  My hands used to dry right up and crack and bleed acrossed my knuckles as well and it felt as if the lining inside of my skull was doing the same thing.  Ouch!


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WOW, I feel like I am back in the trench's again. I was out of this product I have using at this  point to combat  the Candida...any doubts that this stuff is powerful are gone. I was out of it for about a week. I had found a website that i could get it in larger amounts for  a very inexpensive price. So, I was waiting for my order. and only taking the "extra" supplements during that time. Gosh, I felt  really great!  What a smoke screen that was. I recieved my order  late last week and started taking it again.. BANG, I feel like I have been hit by a "2 X 4 "!  I have had so much die off onmy tongue that I am even digusting myself  out,  constipation is fighting to come back, my joints are a mess, disoriented, fuzzy vision..I can see it in my  urine etc etc.. I am really not myself. so,  the combination of suplements and this product  are powerful! So, if I make less sense than normal forgive me. that  along with  a REALLY stressful time  at  the gym I manage and I really  fill like a nutcase!
Caroline
p.s.did  any of the successful Candida people, ever feellike they  were in the middle of that movie with Bill Murray "Groundhog Day"? that about sums it up.


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Caroline,
I have been taking Dr. D's UDA Plus along with Caprylic acid, grapefruit seed and probiotcs. I feel so so tired. I am finding it really hard to work out in the gym. Is this the yeast dying? I am exhausted.  This has only happened since I added the UDA Plus.
Any thoughts? I have been drinking a cup of 'dieters tea' each night and taking magnesium/calcium powder so constipation is not an issue at all. I also take vitamin C powder which helps that alot
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Caroline,
I have been taking Dr. D's UDA Plus along with Caprylic acid, grapefruit seed and probiotcs. I feel so so tired. I am finding it really hard to work out in the gym. Is this the yeast dying? I am exhausted.  This has only happened since I added the UDA Plus.
Any thoughts? I have been drinking a cup of 'dieters tea' each night and taking magnesium/calcium powder so constipation is not an issue at all. I also take vitamin C powder which helps that alot


It really sounds like it to me, I also am feeling fatigue. Are you getting enough protein? that is really such a key to alot of die off symptoms. also, you will find that the  sie off symptoms will change day by day...it just goes to prove there is a three  ring  circus going on inside us....there is only one way to go with this and that is  forward!
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Caroline,  Are you talking about taking Candex again?  If so, I thought it wasn't supposed to cause die off symptoms.  Has it always caused you problems when you first start taking it, like what you are experiencing now?

Just curious.  I am trying to decide if I want to try Candex or not or what other approach to try.


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Don,

I'm not sure. I do know that the Pure Essence Labs, which manufactures Candex, it does say no die off  symptoms. But I am taking some other supplements with it. During the week or soI was out of the Candex and just using the supplements, the Candida seems  was just laying there not responding at all, once I started taking the Candex again along with it, it appeared the yeast started to put on the battle gear. and I am defifnitely having die off  symptoms. annoying as itis at this point, I  atleast know something is happening.  when I spoke to a representative  at Pure Essence labs, and she was a neuropathic practiioner, she agreed it was  die off.
Frankly, I am not sure if there is an easy answer of what to take for Candida, but I do know our  bodies after a while stop  responding to  different  treatments. almost as if the yeast becomes immune to the products being used and you  have to shift around. At thispoint I know thisis  kicking  butt, which the yeast so I  am going to keep taking it. IF yu decide to take it, I found a website that sells Candex much cheaper and it is reputable. Hope this helps
Caroline


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could you let me know which website that is please?


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could you let me know which website that is please?


http://www.pureessencelabs.com/

there yo go...wait,  did you mean the one I purchased the Candex cheaper?
Caroline


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Caroline,
Could all the sugary junk I ate be why I got multiple ear infections over a 4-6month span????

What are your thoughts...(as I cheat and eat my 3rd milky way minature...stress....isn't it great .)

De-stressing and wondering,
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Ahh Bettysue... you are truly a girl after my  own heart.  yep, that is the probable  cause of those  ears hurting!

and I know the stress...I know mine would go away if I walked into  work today and fired one and had any decent applicants.  but  do I know the Milky Way routine. Stress and Candida are sick little "sisters" and the best of  friends. Because think about it. when your dealing with Candida, your not  on the top of your game...which makes you  fatigued. any stress  that comes along, gets bigger than life...and the  circle goes on and on and on.. thus enters our Friend EXERCISE!  and its so important to look at exercise as just that a friend to our bodies! Instead of a drudgery, which we  feel when we are fatigued, see the cycle go on and on?
Go throw away the rest of the 2.99 bag of Milky Way's
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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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& do a spit test in the morning to remind yourself


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& do a spit test in the morning to remind yourself


and yeah what Debs said too!!
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Unfortunately, there are more diet issues with candida.  If you are going to "starve" it out of your system, you can consume, no suger or dairy, either.  When you crave those foods, it's really those little candidas asking to be fed.  Yuk. What is this spit test that you speak of, and where does one obtain it?
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