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jsgrierson
Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 9:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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So grateful to have the above thread to refer to.
I've been on minimal thyroxine for about 3 years, always hoping that the BTD would'cure'me. However, suddenly, my TSH has elevated to where it was when I was first diagnosed with hypo, and the pins and needles are recurring. Apart from that I feel wonderful. But the worry is a worry!
Off to my first ever Endo specialist dr. shortly, and hope that he can educate me a bit. :Looks like it may be auto-immunity (after heavy stress five years ago)
From your stories above, it looks as though you can have extended treatment without destroying oneself!
Jenny
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kruise
Thursday, June 9, 2005, 2:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Quoted from pkarmeier

kruise, is this "ingredient"  carrogeen or carrageenan? If it's the latter, it is an avoid for all food groups.




It is actually spelt Carrageen on the bottle.  My understanding was this was a type of Irish seaweed.  Am I wrong?  

Excuse my ignorance also but what exactly is "chelation"?  I have never heard of it.  I do have a lot of old fillings that I should get replaced.  I have thought about it.  I have an appointment with a natropath on Friday as well - just to see what he thinks.  
I am starting to think that I do have more than just one thing specifically going on in my body.  I did the spit test for Candida and half floated and half glugged at the bottom.  So what does this mean?  I have it but it's not rampant?? lol.  What is the best course for trying to eliminate unwanted Candida naturally?  
On the other positive side from all this - I've been starting to get back into meditation after doing a course about 5 years ago and reading some really good books to help deal with the mental issues going on that might have caused this as well.
Haven't been to the specialist yet...am off there in a couple of hours ....
I've definiately eliminated all wheat and dairy from my diet currently, and do feel that is helping, but of course it's not an overnight fix.  Cheers,
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this is intresting on chelation kruise! )


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kruise, I looked up carrageen at dictionary.com, results below:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Carrageen
Here is link for carrageenan:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Carrageenan

It seems  they are the  same, which would be an avoid for O's.  As I don't see carrageen listed in the TYPEbas4, I don't know. It may be a neutral for now, but then again, it may be the same as carrageenan, an avoid. Maybe someone else will know the answer.  Sorry.



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Yes it does seem that they are the same.  So this product I'm taking with the Carrageen isn't the best, I'll just finish the bottle and then stop using it.  

I have been referred to have a "Barium Swallow" done at the clinic from my specialist.  Has anyone had this procedure?  I guess it's painless but not sure about having to swallow that horrible Barium drink?!?!?  Any tips on coping with that.  Just when I feel like I've been doing so well looking after myself foodwise and now having to go and drink that toxic concoction.  
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kruise, carrageenan is in a lot of things, so if you're trying to be really compliant, be on the watch.  
The barium isn't all that bad. Could be a whole lot worse. Most places give you plenty of time to get it down. Just don't think about it too much ahead of time.        And yeah, WHO KNOWS what's in that stuff!!  



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debs
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i had a barium done a few years ago.they give you teensy little pills to swallow with the barest minimum amount of water but not too bad though.then you were given  this barium meal drink.think of it like a thick milk shake.the whole procedur was ok but watch out when you get home for the multi directional splatterbottoms


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Quoted from debs
watch out when you get home for the multi directional splatterbottoms


Splatterbottoms - Funny debs!!  




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Jane
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Update on my lump:
I was at Mass General yesterday to see Gil Daniels.  He did several biopsies and doesn't feel looking at the fluid surrounding the lump that it's cancerous.  The results won't be in for a week but I'm feeling a little better about things.  It will still have to come out if for no other reason than they just can't seem to identify what it is.  It could be nothing more than a subaceous cyst or a cyst in a lymph node but it's best that it is removed.  It's definitely NOT scar tissue.
Mary Shoman's newsletter today had a piece about new tests for people that have had thyroid cancer.  Rather than having to go off thyroid meds for a while, you can have an injection of thyrogen and then a simple blood test detect the presence of thyroid cancer cells at a very early stage.  Daniels asked me if I'd had a test of thyroglobulin (which I hadn't).  I wish I'd seen the article first.  I would have specifically asked for it.

I'll know something more by the end of next week I hope.  Whatever surgery I will have to have won't be nearly as complicated as the parathyroid adenoma and total thyroidectomy I had in 1996.

I'm relieved even though I know I'll have to have some kind of procedure.
Jane

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Quoted from Jane
Update on my lump:
...He did several biopsies and doesn't feel looking at the fluid surrounding the lump that it's cancerous.  Jane

Thank God.  We are due for some good news around here!  I don't want to jump the gun or anything but that is very encouraging indeed.  I mean, the man should know his fluids, right?  If he says it looks good, then let's take that and run with it!

((((((((HUG))))))))))))



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Jane
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I resonded on T's board but I'll say thanks again here too.  I do feel much calmer (I was a nervous wreck yesterday and I don't even want to get into what I have been thinking about in the middle of the night).

Kids taking me out for my b'day tomorrow.  It's going to be in the mid to high 90s!!
I think it's time to open up a nice bottle of red wine!

((((HUGS))))
Jane
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debs
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i'm still waiting to get my results back.this is the hospital for you.I went in April for mammogram & was expecting to be seen again after mammogram as was told the results go back to the clinic.i waited for my appointment & nothing happened.i phoned the consultants secretary2 weeks ago she sais she'd look into it.never heard from her a week ago i phoned the clinic they said i'd been discharged.i said what do you mean discharged i've not even had my results back let alone a follow up appointment.they said i'd have to speak to the consultants secretary.i rang the secretary the following day who couldnt even find me for a while.she explained i wasnt down for an appt.they would have seen the results & basically dismissed me.she said i should go to my gp for results.i explained i was tols specifically that i would get a follow up appt & i had in fact already called my gp for results which they hadnt got.she said she ould get the results out & post them to my gp.
so far i'm still waiting
would seem to be the hospital think its benign.i remember the consultant before i had the mammogram seemed dismissive of it.i didnt particularly like his manner & found him to be dismissive,offhand,rude & a bit smug in a cocky sort of way(definitely not your INFJ  ) "we see these sort of lum,ps all the time in women of your age.take evening primrose oil"
i wanted to go into the whys & wherefores of not taking EPO but couldnt remember suffice to say its avoid for type O.I think it would have been lost on him anyway.
so there it is...


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Jane,
how did you spend your birthday?? !
HB!!
hope you had a grand time with your kids.)


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Jane
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Thanks.  My son and his fiancee and my other son and my parents took me out to dinner.  It was kind of a fiasco.  My dad always finds something wrong and then he got into an argument with the waiter because he thought the waiter pocketed a $20 bill.  They were fresh from the ATM and my guess is that they just stuck together.  The waiter just stood there and got into an argument with my 86 year old father who always has to be in control.  I just wanted to hide under the table.  Actually I just walked out.  I thought they both handled it very poorly.  
My meal was very good though.  I had a very thick piece of swordfish with fresh veggies and saffron rice.  The salad was mesclun plus strawberries, almonds and feta with a little raspberry vinaigrette (figured a little vinegar wouldn't kill me on my b'day).  The boys had tried to find a flourless chocolate cake at Whole Foods but they were out so they got some tiramissou.  I just tasted the custard on top.  I did have some red wine.  
I'm anxious to get the results of the the biopsies and then just get this thing out!
Thanks for the birthday wishes!
Jane
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there s never a dull moment, is there?


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Does anyone know if fucus spp. is as affective for Type "O" as Fucus vesiculosus?

Kathy
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I just also had thyroid surgery in March. I am now on Synthroid (137 mg) daily.
I found a lump on my thyroid last year and when they went to remove it they found it was a cyst that could not be separated from the thyroid lobe- so they removed half of the thyroid with the cyst. I went rhough MANY strange feelings and symptoms cuz I started out hyper before the lump and went to hypo..
I was a freak! but am now finally getting stabilized. I started the BTD diet on a recommendation from a co-worker and have been on for 2 weeks today. I feel pretty darn good, I have to say- I need to drop the 20 lbs I gained from the hypo swing.
I am also taking a thyroid metabolizer supplement (all natural herbs, etc)
to help with the process. i would love to get off the synthroid and have my left side thyroid start funtioning enough to take over the task. I know it is possible so that is the goal.

Interesting info about the dental mercury...
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excellent job vix!!! )
keep up that spirit!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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I sure appreciate the support- and the amount of expertise and information this site offers...very comforting to have the back up while I am in the process of awakening my health.
 
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Hi everyone,
This is my first time writing to the message board. I have been told by my md that I have hyperparathyroid disease and that I may need to have an operation. I was wondering if anyone on the message board has/had this disease and if so did you try the BTD before undergoing the operation. I have calcium in my blood. My blood type is B+. Any advice would be helpful. I don't want to undergo this operation if I don't have to, if changing my diet would help. Thanks
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lynn9965,
congratulations on your very first post and welcome!!
If you go to the top of the page and click on member centre and get yourself a nice avatar then we can all see what blood type you are and you won't have to type it each time you post.

changing your diet will work wonders!!

avoiding the wheat is a must, as well as all other avoids!
try the type A diet for at least 60 days,
paying especially close attention to the beneficial foods. It may not
influence deposits already in the soft tissues, but may very well cut down on
further deposits.
and with time will all be regulated.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!

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Thanks Lola for replying to my message! I am not sure if I am a secretor or a non-secretor, but I do have Dr. D'Adamo's books “Live Right For4 Your Type” and “Eat Right For4 Your Type”. I am using the Tier Two/secretor diet because the book said if you are suffering from a chronic disease to use the Tier Two diet system. I started the diet on Monday after finding out that I have calcium in my blood due to a high PTH level. The doctor told me the only alternative I have is to have the Parathyroid removed. I will give this diet a chance first.
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Lynn,  What about your magnesium level?  Since calcium and magnesium are related in the human body and type Bs do better with magnesium, I wonder if you are needing magnesium.


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Thanks for replying so quickly. I was taking calcium and magnesium suppliments. My doctor told me to stop taking the calcium suppliment, but I can continue to take the magnesium. I have been taking the magnesium for about a month now. My doctor did not say anything about my magnesium level, so I guess it's okay. I forgot to state earlier that I am eating the only the beneficial foods for the secretor/Tier Two diet plan.

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Do you understand how the Tier system works?

The Tier system is explained at:
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075124989

An easy way for secretors only to think about it is:

From Best to Worst
1 = Tier 1 Beneficial
2 = Tier 2 Beneficial
3 = Neutral
4 = Tier 2 Avoid
5 = Tier 1 Avoid

If you are in good health and want a slightly less strict diet then
consider all Tier 2 avoid and beneficial items as neutral.

If you are more concerned about your health then consider Tier 2 avoid items
as avoids and off limits.  You should also be primarily eating Tier 1
beneficial items, but when you want something else then try to eat a Tier 2
beneficial versus a neutral.

Non-secretors just use the avoid, neutral, and beneficial item values as indicated and ignore the Tier 1 and 2 groupings.


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