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Oh, debra, thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I'm going to try to do that today.



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I second that thanks to debra.  I'm going to try making the walnut butter today.  May sound strange but how do you eat it?  Plain - or on something - and it so, what?
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debra, made the walnut butter. Yummy!!!   I added some of the Himalyan Salt w/ 84 minerals, I think it is, to mine. Gave it just the right taste.   I had to use a blender, but I think a food processor would work better. It's not exactly the consistency o a nut  butter, but will do.  I'm going to eat mine on cinnamon/raisin ezekial bread w/ just a smidge of molasses. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.............
Right now I'm eating it w/ a rice cake and Basha's Lemon Lovers hommus from WF. If you love lemon, you'll love this. It does have a bit of corn oil in it , but other than that, it's okay and GOOD!!
cyn, I would say you could use the walnut butter in any of the ways you would use peanut or almond butter.



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Quoted from gotainer


So back my previous post: should you try to go without food for a while along with some antifungal remedies like grapefruit seed extract?


Gotainer,

I'm not an expert on this  but have done about 2 months non stop research on it..so please don't take it as law.
I would not stop eating.....thats not  going to  healthy for you unless your fasting for a purpose. The diet itself is  a sort of "fast", because you fasting from anything that feed those little "aliens". EX: sugar, grains, etc.. etc.. that along with  your candida products whichever you choose to do will take care of it.  I personally wanted something that would eliminated the dead yeast out of my body, that is why I chose the one I did, but since I have  had this probably since a teen..I am adding things to it.
that help?
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Will candida make us more reactive to alcohol?

Might not be that strange, since it's alcohol, but I get a brain fog from just ONE glass of red wine.. Is that normal?

It's just lately that I've had one glass of wine and stopped there - before it was more like when I drink I drink etc, but since starting here in uni it has become more usual to just have a glass.. I still party from time to time, only drinking red wine now though.   Anyways, how much of a brain fog are you suppose to get from just one glass of red wine?

Just thought it might have something to do with the candida since someone said that it will also give you cravings for alcohol in a previous post..


If your fighting candida , I would stay off the wine for now. wine = grapes = sugar = trouble.
Normally, red wine would be fine...you spoke about the brain  fog...do you also get a headache? If so, you  are probably sensitive to sulfites. There are  some orgainic wines without it. I am learning to enjoy them. if youlike I can give you the names.
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Quoted from TheViking
Tell me about it :/

I want to start fighting that horror within, but I've read that not pleasing it makes you feel very tired all the time etc, so guess I better try that after I'm done with the exams.. Only two more weeks to go though

Is it possible to fight the candida by just avoiding stuff eating the wrong things etc, or do we have to get any specific supplements or similar?
..I read some pages selling things to take while fighting candida, but is it neccessary?


I personally have found that in my case the suplements were more than necessary. I think it might  depend on how long you have had it...also, the diet alone wold take a very long time. this thing is stubborn and hard to get rid of. If you have had it for any length of time, then its more difficult to get  rid of.
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Repeated antibiotics, steroids, birth control pills and nutritionally unbalanced
and deficient diets encourage candida overgrowth. Once this occurs, the candida organism emits toxins which further weaken the immune system, causing health problems of many types. Since your immune system is connected to your hormones and nervous system, candida can be a major factor in premenstrual syndrome (PMS), sexual dysfunction, endometriosis, sugar cravings, fatigue, headache, depression, poor memory and low body temperature. Candida cause many digestive and skin problems. In 1999, the Mayo Clinic reported that 96 per cent of people with
chronic respiratory symptoms showed fungi (related to yeast) in their sinuses.
Yeast overgrowth in the digestive tract also weakens the lining membranes. As a result you develop a "leaky gut" and absorb food allergens and toxins which play a part in both making you tired and developing other symptoms.

So do the Spit Test:
Try this simple test to see if you have a candida yeast infection. First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth, get a clear glass. Fill with water and work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass of water. Check the water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour. If you have a yeast infection, you will see strings (like legs) traveling down into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or "cloudy" saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will seem to be suspended in the water. If there are no stings and the saliva is still floating after at least one hour, you are probably yeast infection free.

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Thanks a lot Caroline.
I'll follow your advice. Fasting all by yourself is dangerous anyway.
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Caroline - I just checked out the website yeastintectionadvisor and see they say it's okay to eat sour cream (from real cream), cream cheese, and butter.  This is so confusing because other sites say candida diet shouldn't include those things.  I'm looking for higher calories foods.  I notice that you used almond butter for that reason, but  my son is an A and shouldn't have almonds.  Any suggestions? - Are you eating all your good oils for your constipation?


cyn... regarding the  website, you have to balance that WITH  the BTD..funny thing I actually turned Dan the  website author onto the BTD, and I think has started following it.
Iwould stay away from Sour cream myself.  I  understand the  weight loss issue, I am about 5lbs under weight at this point because of it...and fighting to get some back. I did check the TYPEbase4  list and it says almonds/almond butter is ok for your  son (unless I am reading it wrong) also walnut butter. It will add some fat to his diet.

Regarding if I am eating oils.. OHHH am I ever.  besides my usual olive oil, I take 2 TBS of flaxsee oil and 2 TBLS of flaxseed that I grind... soooooooo yep, that part is taken care of. I'm getting to  really like that flaxseed oil WAY to much  
Hope this helps, Caroline


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debs,  sounds like you like the threelac.  We just started it 2 days ago and I think I'm going to do the same thing you are - when this gas situtation gets better, add the anti fungal back in.  But how do you know when the overgrowth is completely gone?  Even after you feel better - how long to continue, and on what - probiotics, anti fungals or both?


This is a way to monitor  candida in your system.  when you first get up in themorning.. Do not take  any water, brush your teeth  etc.  Take a glass of water and  spit in it.. observe your spit. healthy spit is just basically bodyfluids  that will quickly dissolve in t the water quickly. IF you see any tendrils ( the will kind of look like jellyfish tendrils for lack of a better  example) coming down intothe glass or you see any sediment, then you have yeast in your system. You can do this as often as you want. its easy and quick.
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There are  some orgainic wines without it. I am learning to enjoy them. if youlike I can give you the names.Caroline

CarolineC, I don't know if anyone else wants the names o' those wines, but I sure do. I do occasionally like to imbibe but it does always tend to give me a headache. Figured it was the sulfites. Thanks




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CarolineC, I don't know if anyone else wants the names o' those wines, but I sure do. I do occasionally like to imbibe but it does always tend to give me a headache. Figured it was the sulfites. Thanks



Italy,  the one I have in the  refrigerator now is Orleans Hill Cote Hill 2003. You have a Whole Foods near you right? the have a section of different ones also. If you don't when I go  this week I will jot  down a few. I am in California, so they will probably be California Wines, is that a problem?
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One more thought regarding  almonds or walnuts
If the Candida is  affecting your tonque (mine is badly) then just watch the intake. the  symptoms would be  if your tongue  gets sore at all or starts to have  some smooth or raw spots.
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CarolineC, thanks for the wine info and California wines would not be a problem. Ya think I'm prejudice or sumpin?  



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debs,  sounds like you like the threelac.  We just started it 2 days ago and I think I'm going to do the same thing you are - when this gas situtation gets better, add the anti fungal back in.  But how do you know when the overgrowth is completely gone?  Even after you feel better - how long to continue, and on what - probiotics, anti fungals or both?

you repeat the spit test at regular intervals,
on one of the sites its recommended to take threelac 1 or 2 boxes for every year you've had candida.However how one knows how long you've had candida for his anybody's guess.I would stick my neck out & suggest that as long as you do regular spit tests you'll know & can act accordingly as and when.How does that sound to you?
being a non secretor i personally take probiotics all the time as i figure i need all the help i can get,plus sooner or later i may need antibiotics(not willingly but with my gnashers at least you never can tell )
i thonk somebody asked me something else but i cant seem to find it now sorry about that but ask me again if i havent answered your question ok?


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debra, made the walnut butter. Yummy!!!   I added some of the Himalyan Salt w/ 84 minerals


Hmm, what is this product, and where can I find it? Thanks.

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Bettycakes, I'll go get my box and give you the info. Someone on this forum gave me the info and can't remember who it was and can't find the email. I believe it was a gentleman. He knows who he is.  
I will warn you before you go to the website, this stuff is incredibly expensive. However, I figure I could be spending it on junk, so better to spend it on something good. It is also a little pink in color, but barely.
http://www.americanbluegreen.com
There ya go.  



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Dr. D has a very good yeast protocol for candida.


Caroliine - or anyone know where I can find Dr. D's yeast protocol for candida?  I don't remember reading it.  Is it on this website?  Thanks

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Debs,  thanks for spit test info. I heard about it before on threelac ad but never thought about it to monitor how you're doing. And never done it.  My doc never suggested it - just sent for yeast blood test.
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The Protocols are on the Home Page under the Solutions Tab.  They are, however, currently unavailable until July 1st.  I'm still trying to figure out the Encyclopedia, so maybe someone else will be of help to you.Sorry



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Debs,  thanks for spit test info. I heard about it before on threelac ad but never thought about it to monitor how you're doing. And never done it.  My doc never suggested it - just sent for yeast blood test.


Hmmmm...... imagine that, the dr never suggested it, just sent for blood work. Well............. that'd be about right.



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The Protocols are on the Home Page under the Solutions Tab.  They are, however, currently unavailable until July 1st.  I'm still trying to figure out the Encyclopedia, so maybe someone else will be of help to you.Sorry


Anybody know how I can find the Dr. D's protocol for candida somewhere else?
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do you have the encyclopedia?  I'm guessing not but thought I'd ask.  



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Cyn,

You need to look at the Yeast Fungus Resistance Protocol for Type A on page 291 in the Encyclopedia.

1- Stinging Nettle Root. UDA Plus 1 - 2 capsules daily
2- Elecampane  500mg: 1 capsule with meals 1-2x daily
3- Caprylic acid 350mg: 1 - 2 capsules, twice daily away from food.
4- Betaine HCl, 250mg: 1 capsule with large meals.
5- Oregon grape, 250-500mg: 1 - 2 capsules, twice daily

Use this protocol for 6 weeks.

Other options would be the Immune Enhancing Protocol or the Antibiotic Support Protocol.

All the products mentioned should be available if required through the NAP online store at this site.

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Thanks Taswolf.  Question about spit test - Does it still work if yeast was intestinal only - no yeast in the mouth?
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