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CarolineC
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Hi debra i do that already,i drink two pints of it in the morning.i do eliminate but very irregularly.i do feel its this candida.



Debs,

I don't know if you remember, but about a month ago, I was having the same problem to the degree it was giving me headaches and I felt toxic.
I personally am taking Candex, Caparylic acid, garlic extract, 2 tbs ground flaxseed and a dose of  oil...along withmy normal things.  I have recently on the suggestion of the  company that makes Candex added a Magnesium supplement thta is 1000 mg a day. I  have experienced  a great deal of relief.. I'm not sure if it  just the  Candida is getting under control, I still a little in my glass in themorning, or the added Magnesium.   Just a thought.  
Caroline


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Hi carolinC
thanks a lot.
I follow the thread and I can feel your  agony and stress.
Wish you for best results soon.


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Does anyone know how to take bentonite powder?  It just says on the bottle to take 1/2 tsp. and drink glass of water.  I tried mixing the bentonite in the water but it didn't blend and I ended up with all these claylike blobs.  Anyone used the powder before?


Yes, I have used bentonite powder before.  Bentonite powder is very hard to mix.  You can buy it already mixed up.  It has been a long time since I have mixed any up, but from what I remember I used a little battery powered mini blender to get the mixing started.  It is probably best to mix it in a glass jar so that you can put the lid on it and shake it too.  You need to mix a cup or two, water volume, up at a time and let it sit to fully mix in the clay.  I kept it in the refrigerator after I mixed it up.  After it mixes up and sits for a day it will be thick like pudding.  Use a tsp or so of the mix each time you use it.


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Hi Don -  Many thanks

Hi Ion,  Welcome.  I actually think the spit test is more reliable than a blood test.
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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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is bentonite powder the same as beconite clay?if not how do you mix that up?


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Halo Cyn
You are breaking my heart by saying so.
I really do hope that test will be negative,although I'm preparing my self to face it up.
I' m checking the sites and I am now reading  all the necessary infos.
Soon I'll plan my attack to it.
Thanks.


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Ion,  I'm so sorry to upset you.   I don't know how often this happens but my son had a false negative blood test result.  In his case he'd been taking antifungals and probiotics for 2 months before the test.  I believe it's far more accurate when done prior to any treatment - which may be the case with you.

debs,  They are the same - my Bentonite Powder bottle says it is 100% bentonite clay.
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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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thanks.i think i must have been doing it wrong.i mine didnt come with any instructions.was just told to mix it in water.yuck.it was horrible.i was eating lumps of the stuff.tasted like soggy chalk ugh! i'll give your recommendations a go.i might have even been eating too much of it.i was using 1 teaspoon of clay to some water & drinking the lot.did you mean use 1 teaspoon let it soak to a pudding & eat a teaspoon of the pudding at a time ? or did you mean use a teasppon mix to a pudding & then eat the lot?thanks for your help


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I just mix enough of the bentonite powder in the water until it starts to thicken a little.  Start with small amount and keep adding as needed.  I am sure it is a lot more then a tsp.  Let it sit for a day or so and it will thicken a lot more.  Sorry I don't have a more exact recipe.  I then take a standard plastic rounded spoonful with my soaked ground flaxseed.  I mentioned plastic because you are not supposed to handle the clay or powder with metal.


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Poly,

I'm so  glad you  pointed out that post to me.. because  I read what I posted back to you.....it was a great reminder!
Caroline


Caroline, I'm happy to. Your replies have helped me a lot!

Thanks!  



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I have read conflicting information regarding if the following food items can be eaten or avoided while on a candida diet.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Nutritional Yeast
Herbal Teas
Tamari (soy sauce)

What are others opinions or experiences concerning these items?


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someone posted the following:

''good yeasties found in nutritional yeast will fight the bad candida yeasties.''
hope this helps


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I have read conflicting information regarding if the following food items can be eaten or avoided while on a candida diet.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Nutritional Yeast
Herbal Teas
Tamari (soy sauce)

What are others opinions or experiences concerning these items?


don,
Here are  the food list that I have gone by for the last 3 months or so (of course I balance them out with BTD list)...it does say that nutritional yeast is a no no..but apparently its not according to Dr. D.
I do not  eat anything that  has the slightess chance of fermentation process, that would be vinegar..
I hope these list help.  I also don't eat any left overs refrigerated or not  after 24 hours.
http://www.wholeapproach.com/ and http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com.
Caroline




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Caroline, I'm happy to. Your replies have helped me a lot!

Thanks!  


thanks Poly... that makes it all worth  while.
Caroline



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Quoted from lola
someone posted the following:

''good yeasties found in nutritional yeast will fight the bad candida yeasties.''
hope this helps


Just to add re nutritional yeast....it doesn't contain active yeast that is why it is OK.

Sue.



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Does anybody know if itchy, dry skin is a symptom of die off?  It may have been mentioned somewhere in this thread but I can't find it.  Thanks
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yes it sure is..sometimes I feel like I have "ants" on me but nothing there.
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Thanks for info skin info.

Does anyone have or know about light colored bowel movements?  Maybe it's because of all the supplements ingested, including psyllium. probiotics, antifungals, enzymes.  Anybody know about this?  Thanks
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I noticed another thread that talked about mucus in stool but this is different.  This is just light in color (no mucus) - but other than color, seems to be normal.
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Does anyone have or know about light colored bowel movements?  Maybe it's because of all the supplements ingested, including psyllium. probiotics, antifungals, enzymes.  Anybody know about this?  Thanks


If you just started having light colored BMs after you started taking some supplement I would wait and see if things change back.  However, light colored stools can indicate liver problems.  http://www.skyeherbals.com/pages/liv1.html  There are other sites to go to and read about analizing stools, like http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8270/8528/189142.html?d=dmtContent  and http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/pale_stool.htm

How long has it been light colored?  How light colored is it?


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Cyn,
I think we have talked  about the possiblity in our emails about him being Celiac. when I looked at  one of the websites that Don  gave you (BTW.. thaks Don great websites!) I  looked on the list of  possiblities   and it is one of them is Celiac disease.  Has then been going on since he started  taken the clay  supplement? Is the clay light in color?  Just  thinking about it..
Here was the list from the wesite:
Unusually light-colored stool
Pale, greasy, usually foul-smelling stool is often indicative of digestive and absorption problems. The appearance is due to undigested fats that remain in the stool, as well as to lack of bilirubin in the intestines. Disorders that may cause this type of stool include:

Acute viral hepatitis
Alcohol and drug-induced hepatitis
Bile-duct disease
Cancer of gallbladder and bile ducts
Celiac disease
Chronic pancreatitis
Chronic hepatitis
Cirrhosis
Crohn's disease
Diverticulosis
Lactose intolerance
Surgical removal of the small intestine


MelissaJ,  has a family of Celiac's, she might be able to  tell you if  this has been a symptom she has seen, its a start.
Caroline


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Don and Caroline - Thanks for info.  It's not greasy -  just light (not even sure if you would call it "pale").  It started with all these supplements and diet.  I thought maybe someone else had the same.  I'm wondering if the limited diet is a factor???

Caroline, I don't think he's got celiac disease, or even has a wheat intolerance - I think his wheat tolerance is just what a typical type A is.
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cyn,

think back to when it started.. what supplement had you added or has this just started this week?  Is the clay supplement your using pale in color? I would think thatmight effect  it. It definitely has to do with a supplement if  it started when you started giving  them to him...
Caroline


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It seems I am having a new  side effect of the Candida detox and wondering if anyone else has had this one pop up one you.....my taste buds are really not working at all today.  I can taste, but its not very strong, especially salty things.....anyone found this happening in the course of things?
Caroline


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