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archer
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I am getting  a sugar craving that practically drives me up the wall.


I remember this all to well, talk about getting irritable. After it was over in a week or two, it was all downhill from there.
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Quoted from archer


I remember this all to well, talk about getting irritable. After it was over in a week or two, it was all downhill from there.


Dan,
But this is after what? .. three months of this nonsense. I mean I  have had sugar cravings off and on... so I guess I am wondering, if  it runs in courses.. of dying oiff. Are there steps and symptoms that go along with those stages? Unfortunatly, I am still getting some very small sores on my tongue...ythey seem to crank  up  with the cravings.  I think a  Sci Fi should be made  out of  this kinds  thing.. CANDIDA...............The  Man eating Yeast!
And your so right....you get so irritable, you don't even know who you are!  I know the  yeast is leaving..because I can see it in the  glass of  water, but no one has told my tongue that in the morning.. its still yellow.  OK..I have ranted!

Caroline



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Caroline,  I don't know anything about cravings (not something that my son has had a problem with) but I was wondering - Since the cravings and irritability (actually that is something my son has had big time) are part of die off, would it help to take charcoal for it?  If this sounds crazy, just ignore it.  But my thinking was that since cravings are part of die off and charcoal helps with die off in general - maybe it would help.  Cyn
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Caroline - Just thought of something else.  Is it the particular food you are eating?  I'm sure you're thought of this before.  You say it happens 30 minutes after eating - with all food or just certain ones trigger the craving reaction?  Cyn
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But this is after what? .. three months of this nonsense. I mean I  have had sugar cravings off and on... so I guess I am wondering, if  it runs in courses.. of dying off. Are there steps and symptoms that go along with those stages?


We are all different and seem to suffer different with this. I had extreme digestive problems but never had thrush or the white coated tongue. The sugar cravings I should say went from wanting to crawl out of my skin and tear someones head off, to milder cravings that would come and go less frequently and eventually disappeared. It took about 10 months for me to beat this and I spent a large amount of money on supplements. But, I had suffered for so long I would not give in and didn't care what it cost. I threw every antifungal under the sun at it, sometimes in rotation, and sometimes all at once. I rotated probiotics in large doses, 15 billion or more, and at one time took 6 packets a day of threelac along with other things. I took digestive enzymes and systemic enzymes later to clean up the mess. I studied and read everything I could get my hands on to understand the beast, and let me tell you what, this can get really wicked!!

I sometimes wonder if I had known about the BTD if I couldn't have beat this sooner but the diet I followed was sort of designed for type O's since it was of my own design mostly. I took all the different diets I came across and when they were in agreement, added a little common sense and nutritional knowledge, and it worked for me.

The charcoal is an interesting idea and betonite clay is supposed to draw out toxins as well, but I don't know for certain, only what others have told me.

Not  sure why I have shared my story but that is just what came to mind in this post. I hope it helps someone in some small way  
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Quoted from archer

The sugar cravings I should say went from wanting to crawl out of my skin and tear someones head off, to milder cravings that would come and go less frequently and eventually disappeared.  But, I had suffered for so long I would not give in and didn't care what it cost. let me tell you what, this can get really wicked!!
I sometimes wonder if I had known about the BTD if I couldn't have beat this sooner .


Dan,  first of all in the three months I have known you, you have  helped me more than you will ever know! I really feel like you have held my hand the whole way.. thank you so much for that!
the craving you described up in your post  cover it perfectly, I felt like last night, I need to go somewhere away from people or it could have been ugly. Like you said, I have  like others on here have had  the craving come and go...but thisis like clockwork. and it happens in the evening.  the food  doesn't matter, last night was Wild Salmon and  a BIG salad (thats pretty much my ususal, a protein and salad) I was wanting to REALLy enjoy this dinner as the Salmon was 16.99 a  pound. Had to sell my first born....so 1/2 hour later when I was absolutely miserable it was upsetting    I am not going to give up..although  since this started about 4 days ago, I have thought about it. But I am disaplined, you don't lose 150lbs and not be.  Being in the medical field, we like to undersand whats going on and be incontrol of our body. WELL, I have had my doubts on who is in control!, me or the alien  
So, Dan, what exactly did  you do when this hit.. just  white knuckle it?  
I also don't understand this  tongue  business....Like everyone else there is a morning ritual.. do the spit test...like I said its  WAY better.than before . then stick out the tongue (get the mental?) and its  yellow!!!!!!  I am  thinking ....What the H***????  
Since I had this problably childhood...I guess I am looking a very  long haul of just  walking blindly through this.  Its now about 20 minutes after eating and I feel it coming on..I thinkI would  kill for a piece of See's candy!

Carolyn

Cyn..I haven't tried charcoal....and the clay sounds absoutely disquesting!  Is it suppose to kill cravings?


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caroline,
how about you try a smaller salad, and double the salmon!?
just a thought.........
now that I m eating basically more protein, good fats and very few carbs, I have no cravings at all.......(I do not have candida though........but always get cravings if I overdue my carbs)


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caroline,
how about you try a smaller salad, and double the salmon!?
just a thought.........
now that I m eating basically more protein, good fats and very few carbs, I have no cravings at all.......(I do not have candida though........but always get cravings if I overdue my carbs)


that is defintiely worth a try....I have been sitting here thinking about my  thoughts  on why I was doing it  the opposite.. and I think they were this ....More  bulk (help with the constipation) and I am use to eatig salad to fill me up, so there isn't much room for the protein in my stomach.  Tonight I made a stir fry  with some of the left over salmon...again lots of veggie and  little salmon.. and  it took about 45 mnutes before it  hit me..I actually left the house and took a fast walk.
Tomorrow night I will go heavy on the proteins and light on the veggies.
thanks Lola.....
xo Caroline



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anytime caroline!

it works for me!
protein and fat makes me happy, happy!! )


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Carolin,
I've had the worst cravings in the beginning of the candida diet. My past diets taught me that in my case, getting over them was not a matter of pure will. So I tried 5-htp as I knew serotonin was the neurotransmitter responsible for those cravings, and it changed everything. I only took it for two weeks and now I can go without it, and the cravings are no longer there. Actually, they are so much lighter, it's like they are not here, because I really can overcome them easily.
If you could find a supplement suitable for O's, increasing the level of serotonin, that would be worth a try.
Hang on anyway and keep us informed!
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  bravo Monsieur- bravo    
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perhaps glutamine might be suitable to control cravings in Os?.......


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thank you gotrainer, I will keep that in mind....actually I beefed up the protein to night and  downplayed the veggies and NO sugar cravings AT all.. I feel like a new person, and I don't want to scratch the face off everyone I see!! this is a good thing!

Lola.... big hug!!!

Caroline


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good to know it s working!!!
nice job!


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I'm glad to hear that Caroline. Way to go!!
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Caroline, your symptoms sound exactly like mine. See my post from June 16th.:

Quoted from Poly
Lately (3 weeks) I've been "suffering" from crazy cravings. I'm feeling hungry immediately after eating dinner (I'm eating a low carb diet and watching all the Candida-friendly foods) and have this "itchy - twitchy" feeling all night. I feel like I did back when I was a smoker and had run out of smokes. Actually the pack of ciggies I have been keeping from the day I quit over 9 months ago, is starting to look tempting! Can you believe it?


I beat the cravings just like you have described and have been adviced to do: When you crave sugar - eat protein! The cravings are gone! Hah!  

I'm still feeling a little bloated, especially in the afternoon, but it's slowly getting better every day!

We'll beat this thing!


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Poly,

I'm so  glad you  pointed out that post to me.. because  I read what I posted back to you.....it was a great reminder!
Caroline


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Hi all !
Has anyone ever heard of silica or colloïdal silver? Some people on a french forum I just read claim they got rid of candida pretty fast thanks to them.
I'm looking for any info about that.
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here s what you are looking for! )


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thanx Lola!
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Hallo everybody

I think Iam just about to join the club.
I did the spit test and it seems so.
I'll be certain after the blood test.
Mean while is any one can tell me which are the avoids and where in the site I'll  find more about?


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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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my trouble atthe moment feels like i'm killing off the candida but not eliminating it very well.i feel very 'bunged up'


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debs-try drinking warm water with lemon in the mornings. Wait about 20 minutes or so before you eat anything.  It helps to get the bowels moving.  Mike/blogger suggested this to me as I was having a wee bit of trouble with that and it seems to have helped quite abit.  

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if at first you don't succed try & try again.
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Hi debra i do that already,i drink two pints of it in the morning.i do eliminate but very irregularly.i do feel its this candida.


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Hallo everybody

I think Iam just about to join the club.
I did the spit test and it seems so.
I'll be certain after the blood test.
Mean while is any one can tell me which are the avoids and where in the site I'll  find more about?


Hi Ions,

Here are two websites that have the avoids on them...you will need to  follow the candida diet and BTD.  You being a B, who eats grains it will mean no grains, sugar and a few other things.
Post anytime your confused, someone will be around to help you
http://www.wholeapproach.com/   and   http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com

Caroline


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