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Betty, the himalayan salts?
I bet you can get them at WFs....... or just any salt preferable sea salt, for the nut butter. is that what you wanted to know? |
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| Monday, June 13, 2005, 1:42am |
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you may be able to find the Himalyan salt at WF's, don't know if it would be this brand.The package says "Imported exclusively by and distributed by American BlueGreen, LLC. Would be intersting to see if it IS at WF's and if it is, if it's any cheaper. Would be COOL!!  |
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| Monday, June 13, 2005, 2:14am |
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CarolineC, thanks for the wine info and California wines would not be a problem. Ya think I'm prejudice or sumpin? 
Okie dokie, I will get the names of ALL of them..I assume you only do reds , right??? Caroline |
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CarolineC |
| Monday, June 13, 2005, 2:21am |
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Thanks Taswolf. Question about spit test - Does it still work if yeast was intestinal only - no yeast in the mouth?
cyn, yes the spit test should work.. if its in your intestial track it is in your mouth..have you ever noticed your tongue coated either white or yellowish? |
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CarolineC |
| Monday, June 13, 2005, 2:29am |
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Bettysue,
you can get himalayan salts alot of places now.. beside the nurtional value, they at least in California the new "hip" thing... kinda like when all of a sudden on star started drinking green tea and the whole world acted like it just landed on the planet. High end grocery stores carry it, definitely Whole Foods does and if you have a good HFS they will have it...its very nice. Caroline |
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| Monday, June 13, 2005, 2:33am |
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Candida and friends rob the body of nutrition and cause incr toxicity that can contribute directly or indirectly to the following conditions:
Adrenal/thyroid problems Allergies Arthritis Asthma Blood sugar problems (diabetes, hypoglycemia) Celiac disease Chronic fatigue syndrome/Fibromyalgia Cognitive difficulties Colitis/irritable bowel syndrome Crohn's disease Depression Diarrhea/constipation Endometriosis Fatigue Food cravings Gas/bloating Hormonal imbalance Hyperactivity Insomnia Liver spots Liver stress Malabsorption Menstrual problems Premature aging Over/under weight Skin rashes Vaginal yeast/ bladder infections Water retention |
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| archer |
| Monday, June 13, 2005, 5:26am |
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Quoted from cyn Thanks Taswolf. Question about spit test - Does it still work if yeast was intestinal only - no yeast in the mouth?
cyn, yes the spit test should work.. if its in your intestial track it is in your mouth..have you ever noticed your tongue coated either white or yellowish?
Or in the morning your mouth will feel slimy. That is yeast/candida/fungus. |
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| Monday, June 13, 2005, 5:53am |
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| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 11:14am |
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Thanks everyone for spit test info. I had been concerned about monitoring yeast in future cause so many people say it can come back again so eaily. It seems like if you do the spit test once a month after all is gone - you should be able to control it. Right? |
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| archer |
| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 1:49pm |
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cyn
I am just speaking as someone that dealt with this problem. You are correct about the once a month spit test to monitor the yeast balance. I generally can tell by how my mouth feels in the morning upon awakening. If it is slimy, like excess mucous, there is to much yeast. |
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| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 3:45pm |
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OK>......PLEEEEEZE help! I did this test today. I had been up for while (on this site!) but hadn't eaten or drank or brushed teeth. I spit in a glass of my water which is filtered with a Reverse Osmosis system. It had some tendrills coming down gently, slowly for a few seconds but nothing long, and nothing thick. I walked away and came back in 15 minutes and there was nothing there. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? SOME CANDIDA BUT NOT ALOT? DOES IT MATTER WHAT TYPE OF WATER YOU USE? SHOULD I HAVE USED MY SKUNKY WELL WATER FROM MY TAP THAT'S FULL OF RUST AND NITRATES FROM THE FARMERS FIELDS ALL AROUND US???
I am quite positive that I have Candida. I get the mouth sores, the sugar cravings and yeast infections on a fairly regular basis and I've done very little as far as treatment lately to think that I tested negative or only mildly positive. WHAT GIVES?
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| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 6:25pm |
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Quoted from cyn
Thanks everyone for spit test info. I had been concerned about monitoring yeast in future cause so many people say it can come back again so eaily. It seems like if you do the spit test once a month after all is gone - you should be able to control it. Right?
Cyn, After you have the Candida under control, once a month is probably ok...I can tell right away, now that I am aware of the difference of have a lot of yeast in my system and not the difference in my mouth. I don't personally find my mouth slimy as much as (and this sounds strange Iknow) my teeth kind of have a sticky feeling. And you right it can come back very easily. Caroline |
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| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 6:32pm |
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Quoted from jillthepilllady
OK>......PLEEEEEZE help! I did this test today. I had been up for while (on this site!) but hadn't eaten or drank or brushed teeth. I spit in a glass of my water which is filtered with a Reverse Osmosis system. It had some tendrills coming down gently, slowly for a few seconds but nothing long, and nothing thick. I walked away and came back in 15 minutes and there was nothing there. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? SOME CANDIDA BUT NOT ALOT? DOES IT MATTER WHAT TYPE OF WATER YOU USE? SHOULD I HAVE USED MY SKUNKY WELL WATER FROM MY TAP THAT'S FULL OF RUST AND NITRATES FROM THE FARMERS FIELDS ALL AROUND US???
I am quite positive that I have Candida. I get the mouth sores, the sugar cravings and yeast infections on a fairly regular basis and I've done very little as far as treatment lately to think that I tested negative or only mildly positive. WHAT GIVES?
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Jill, I am not an expert on the water used. I have just used plain tap, but I am going to try purified also to see if any difference, but I don't think it matters, simply because people all over the world do this and they all have different types of water. From what you said, yes you have candida, it is the first 30 seconds that is the time measure. Just by the symptoms you mentioned says your a Candida candidate. Another thing to consider.. is what you ate the day/night before. I find that is a big component, I have played around with it. Are you following the Candida diet or have you stated taking any treatment? That will affect your spit also. Mine started to change very quickly..BUT changes back quickly so its definately still alive and kicking in me. I'm thinking probably 6 months of being really strict. (doesn't make you the life of the party, thats for sure!) If you can remember, put a glass of water next to your bed, and try doing it first thing in the morning after you wake up, while the yeast is concentrated. Let us know how you do with differeent water and timing. I will try different water also. Caroline |
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| cyn |
| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 9:33pm |
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Jill. I just did this once but I think when you came back 15 minutes later and there was nothing there, it had probably sunk to the bottom. With no yeast overgrowth the saliva would float on the top only. So, yes you do have candida according to the spit test since you had the tendrills. At least that's how I understand it. Anyone know if the spit takes longer (10 or 15 minutes) to develop those tendrills - does that mean less yeast than if it happens as soon as the spit hits the water? Or other changes that indicate improvement? We need encouragement!!! |
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| Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 10:46pm |
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Regarding the Spit test.... I did some checking on the internet and found a site that included a picture (worth a millions words), after readint his site, Jill you do need to use bottled water NOT tap water, because of the minerals and chemicals in the water...ALSO, you check it up to an hour... here is the link, this willproabably answer any questions about the test. it cleared up some for me... wish my water would clear up this fast! http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.htmlalong with that here is a link to a site I found quite a while ago, it includes an actual test. http://www.wholeapproach.com/ Its called"System Assessment Questionnaire" check them out. Caroline |
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| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 8:08am |
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After reading this highly interesting thread, I took the spit test and found I was definitely a Candia-Candidate! For about a month I've been taking a supplement called Dida (contains Cinnamon oil, Olive leaf, Oregano, Garlic and some more stuff...) to clear out the Candida. Lately (3 weeks) I've been "suffering" from crazy cravings. I'm feeling hungry immediately after eating dinner (I'm eating a low carb diet and watching all the Candida-friendly foods) and have this "itchy - twitchy" feeling all night. I feel like I did back when I was a smoker and had run out of smokes. Actually the pack of ciggies I have been keeping from the day I quit over 9 months ago, is starting to look tempting! Can you believe it?  At the same time, the Dida-tablets suddenly began to smell icky to me, and some mornings I really didn't feel like taking them. I did anyway, but they still gross me out. I read somewhere (on this thread?) that Candida can make you have cravings to make sure it gets fed. As if it controles your brain somehow. Is it too far out to think that that's what happening now? The Candida's last battle trying to make me stop killing it and feed it instead? I feel so invaded! ICK!  |
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| cyn |
| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 1:36pm |
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Anybody know how to ease overwhelming gas (part of candida detox)? It's been going on for 9 weeks - yeast definitely getting better because there are times between gas build up when feeling so much better - but still much time when gas is present and oh so bad. Any suggestions? Tried baking soda, simethycone. Anything else out there? Thanks to all. |
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| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 2:37pm |
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Is the gas part of the candida die off? I felt like I was going to explode yesterday - it seems to be from taking deflect. Have others found this happen? Cyn - are you taking deflect? I am taking caprylic acid, UDA Plus (stinging nettles), fucus, grapefruit seed extract, acidophilus, Biotin and vitamin C powder. it seems only when I take the deflect that I get really gassy. |
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| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 2:54pm |
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suzedgar, Dont know what deflect is. This is my son (also A) and he's taking threelac, PB8 (combination of more probiotics), and digestive enzymes. He took grapefruit seed extract at one point in all this but the gas was too much to handle. Maybe that's whats doing it for you. Or maybe it would be any combination of things that result in die off. (maybe some people have more gas than others? or maybe it's due to more yeast overgrowth?) Still wondering though - is there anything to help that gas buildup? |
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| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 5:06pm |
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Still asking about gas problem. Also, does anyone really know how long this candida detox thing takes? So much online info comes from companies trying to sell products, so can't really believe them. They usually say things like that die off lasts a week or 2! What is the truth? I read something that said that die off lasts for as many months as the number of years one has had yeast overgrowth. (I think thats assuming sticking to diet and taking supplements that fight candida all along) Make sense to anyone? (Of course I don't know how long the candida has been present anyway) Just looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. |
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| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 7:42pm |
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CYN, I think someone in this thread mentionned Charcoal as something able to lower the die off symptoms. But Charcoal, among many other things, is also known for limiting bloating and gaz. Plus it's a detoxifyer. You should definitely give that a try. |
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| gotainer |
| Thursday, June 16, 2005, 7:45pm |
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By the way, Deflect is a lectin blocking formula sold in the ABO store. Never tried it, but NAGlucosamine alone works quite fine for A's. |
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After reading this highly interesting thread, I took the spit test and found I was definitely a Candia-Candidate! For about a month I've been taking a supplement called Dida (contains Cinnamon oil, Olive leaf, Oregano, Garlic and some more stuff...) to clear out the Candida. Lately (3 weeks) I've been "suffering" from crazy cravings. I'm feeling hungry immediately after eating dinner (I'm eating a low carb diet and watching all the Candida-friendly foods) and have this "itchy - twitchy" feeling all night. I feel like I did back when I was a smoker and had run out of smokes. Actually the pack of ciggies I have been keeping from the day I quit over 9 months ago, is starting to look tempting! Can you believe it?  At the same time, the Dida-tablets suddenly began to smell icky to me, and some mornings I really didn't feel like taking them. I did anyway, but they still gross me out. I read somewhere (on this thread?) that Candida can make you have cravings to make sure it gets fed. As if it controles your brain somehow. Is it too far out to think that that's what happening now? The Candida's last battle trying to make me stop killing it and feed it instead? I feel so invaded! ICK! 
Poly, well I guess I cold welcome youto the Candida "family", but I wish I wasn't in it. How long will it take... gosh that depends on so many things. How compliant you are to the treatment and diet. I have been told it also depends on how long it has been in your body. If it has been in the system long enough to cause Leaky Gut, then a long time. I think I have had it since I was atleast a very young teen, so I am hoping that within the next 30 years it will be gone (just kidding, I HOPE) As far as the cravings go... Oh yeah they are miserable, and even after you eat, because quite frankly you haven't (if you following the diet exactly) have not given it anything to feed on and well its fighting for its life. I feel like I am constantly fighting this alien throught out the day.. it yells SUGAR and I yell SHUT UP! and eat some protein. Like you I feel very invaded, hence I call it an alien. I personally can't help you with the Dida...as I can't take most of whats in it. Perhaps someone else is familar. there is a tons of "products" out there your right. Hope this answers some of your questions Caroline p.s. I am not an expert in Candida, but I have learned alot FAST! |
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| Friday, June 17, 2005, 12:51pm |
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For those of you that are trying threelac, would you at some point let us know how it is working for you? Thanks |
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| Friday, June 17, 2005, 1:29pm |
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archer, been using threelac for less than one week so I can't yet say. Maybe someone else who's been using it longer can comment. |
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