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So what do you think of this recipe? I am itching to make this "mine!"
http://www.mynewroots.org/site/2013/02/the-life-changing-loaf-of-bread/


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It sounds good to me, everything except the psyllium husks (avoid on my swami), and I have no idea what to sub for those...but if you try it, post about your experience!


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rice bran? the husks are just fiber after all.


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Quoted from Drea
It sounds good to me, everything except the psyllium husks (avoid on my swami), and I have no idea what to sub for those...


Some substitution ideas:

Ground Flax seeds
Ground Chia Seed
Half the amount of Carob flour


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Some substitution ideas:

Ground Flax seeds
Ground Chia Seed
Half the amount of Carob flour

Sounds really good, C_Sharp. I'm sure I would like it better with some carob flour too. Those little expensive squares I find sometimes that look a little like this bread are delicious to me. (They don't have any psyllium in them, either!) It would be great to have something like this to have as toast! Wow! I'm a super fan of ground chia and flax seed too.



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rice bran? the husks are just fiber after all.


Thanks! Another good suggestion, and it is a superfood for me! This is sounding better and better.


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It looks scrumptious!!!!!


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In order to adapt this recipe so I can use my most compliant ingredients, I'd have to avoid oats (because even gluten free oats bother me) and I would sub quinoa flakes, I need to avoid psyllium husks and maybe I could use hemp seeds or more flax.  It looks so pretty sliced....and I love the dense grainy texture of this bread. If someone tries it please post your results. Looks like it would be delicious!  Thanks for sharing Spring


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I found a recipe for a bread in the Clean Living magazine which is no longer in print called Honey Almond Sunflower Loaf.  I thought it was excellent.  It can also be made into muffins by simply reducing the baking time to 15 to 20 minutes. The recipe is as follows:

1 cup almond meal
3/4 cup buckwheat flour
1 1/4 cup quinoa flour
3 tsp. baking powder
1 egg
2 egg whites
1 cup unsweetened soy, almond or rice milk
1/3 cup olive oil
2 T raw organic honey
1/4 cup plus 1 T unsalted sunflower seeds (raw or toasted)

Preheat oven to 350.  In a medium bowl whisk 1st 4 ingredients together.
In a small bowl whisk egg, egg whites, milk, oil, honey and 1/4 cup seeds.  Add wet ingredients to dry ingredients and combine.  Do not over mix.

Mist a 9 or 10 inch loaf pan with cooking spray (I use parchment paper - much easier to get out of pan).  Pour batter into pan and sprinkle remaining 1 T sunflower seeds over top of loaf.  Bake 40 to 45 minutes.  Cool before slicing.  Delicious and all diamonds or superfoods.

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Quoted from JoAnn
I found a recipe for a bread in the Clean Living magazine which is no longer in print called Honey Almond Sunflower Loaf.  I thought it was excellent.  It can also be made into muffins by simply reducing the baking time to 15 to 20 minutes. The recipe is as follows:

1 cup almond meal
3/4 cup buckwheat flour
1 1/4 cup quinoa flour
3 tsp. baking powder
1 egg
2 egg whites
1 cup unsweetened soy, almond or rice milk
1/3 cup olive oil
2 T raw organic honey
1/4 cup plus 1 T unsalted sunflower seeds (raw or toasted)

Preheat oven to 350.  In a medium bowl whisk 1st 4 ingredients together.
In a small bowl whisk egg, egg whites, milk, oil, honey and 1/4 cup seeds.  Add wet ingredients to dry ingredients and combine.  Do not over mix.

Mist a 9 or 10 inch loaf pan with cooking spray (I use parchment paper - much easier to get out of pan).  Pour batter into pan and sprinkle remaining 1 T sunflower seeds over top of loaf.  Bake 40 to 45 minutes.  Cool before slicing.  Delicious and all diamonds or superfoods.



this is much more compliant for me!! yay!!!   except i would use pumpkin seeds.  sunflower is AVOID.
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This is a great direction to go in!  

I choose to not use added sweeteners, such as honey or maple syrup, so I'd probably use something like mashed medjool dates or finely grated carrots for the sweet flavor.  And pumpkin seeds instead of sunflower seeds.  And ground flax and chia instead of the psyllium.  And carob powder and/or rice bran instead of the oats.  .  etc.



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The dates no doubt would hold it together better and obviate the need for the psyllium (which otherwise I suspect would be necessary)?!
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This is a great direction to go in!  

I choose to not use added sweeteners, such as honey or maple syrup, so I'd probably use something like mashed medjool dates or finely grated carrots for the sweet flavor.  And pumpkin seeds instead of sunflower seeds.  And ground flax and chia instead of the psyllium.  And carob powder and/or rice bran instead of the oats.  .  etc.


I've never seen carob powder!  Is that a common item at a local health food store?  

Also for the substitutions you speak of, could you provide the actual amounts?  
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I've never seen carob powder!  Is that a common item at a local health food store?  

Also for the substitutions you speak of, could you provide the actual amounts?  


Carob powder was half
ground chia and ground flax were one to one.

Should not even need to go to a health food store (unless you insist on organic). Major grocery stores stock carob powder.

Bob's Red Mill would be the most common and is sold in bags.

Chatfields is the second most common variety and is sold in cans.

If you go to the type of health food store that primarily sells supplements, than you would look for the NOW brand.

For certified Organic:

www.swansonvitamins.com


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psyllium husks do not appear on my Swami.. what category would they be in?  Carbohydrates?
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wow...sounds good and the pics are awesome...thanx for sharing .....


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I would have to find a sub for the sunflower seeds from both reciepes. I avoid and I can't handle them at all.


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I would have to find a sub for the sunflower seeds from both reciepes. I avoid and I can't handle them at all.



can you have pumpkin seeds?  they are a diamond for me!
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whoever ends up making this with the substitutions mentioned, please post how it worked!
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normaly I would say yes to the pumkin seeds but since I have been pregnant they make me just as ill as the sunflower seeds. last two times I had them I spent the rest of the day with an uneasy stomach, nasty tasting burping, and generaly not feeling too hot. too much oil in them maybe?


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I'm downright bothered that I have not gotten this made yet! I did get a chance to read about a tenth of the blog comments and found what I consider good substitutions for me. I really like the ideas from others here, too, suggesting using Carob, more chia/flaxseed and adding dried fruit. I think there is something about letting this mixture stand for hours that makes the bread so delicious. So I will definitely allow plenty of hours for that step! I can't have sunflower seeds or psyllium, and oats are a black dot for me, however, oat bran is a neutral. So I do have some delicious options to make a bread that I will enjoy making a long time! So I am hoping to be able to get this together this week.


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I didn't make this but I did make an interesting snack bread last night. nothing I make ever rises much so I do a lot of flat breads. last night I wanted sweet bread so I had
2 cups of whole spelt flour
1/2 cup of oatmeal flour
1/4 raw suger
6 dried apricots diced
about 2tbs of honey desolved in 1 cup warm water
the result was almost a thick pancake batter which I poured onto a hot backing stone at 350 and let cook for maybe an hour and a half
it gave me a thick flat 'loaf' that I cut into inch strips the outer crust was a bit chewy but the inside was like a pancake sweet and moist


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Ok here's another recipe from her page.. that looks great.  But what to substitute for the cornmeal?

http://www.mynewroots.org/site/2013/02/crispy-cornmeal-sweet-potato-fries/
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Carob and ground chia seed are such a good combination to me. I have been making muffins with those two and other ingredients for several months. They turn out VERY dark - almost as dark as a brownie. Sooo, a light bulb went on the other day, and I asked myself why I hadn't already been making bread instead of muffins out of this mixture.   Anyway, I sliced a muffin to see how it would toast, and it was very good. Held together very well, moist on the inside and toasty on the outside.

Thinking about this, I am wondering about adding an egg to the Life Changing Bread (at least one) so I won't have to worry about having the consistency psyllium gives when I do the subs. I would keep it in the fridge for the "curing" process.

Off subject, but, boy, there is nothing like getting outside and getting yard work done after being stuck inside for days!! I even got some painting done on our deck chairs. Already had two coats of primer on them. Turning cold again tomorrow, though, so the chairs will live in the garage until better weather.

Also, started taking olive leaf extract today, and I think that added to my energy and feeling of well-being. I know Bach olive is GREAT so maybe this will be too!


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Ok here's another recipe from her page.. that looks great.  But what to substitute for the cornmeal?

http://www.mynewroots.org/site/2013/02/crispy-cornmeal-sweet-potato-fries/
Millet?


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Why are you taking the olive leaf extract? I think I remember reading somewhere that olive leaf AND oregano oil are good for sinus issues. But, more energy? Wonderful!


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Millet?





oh yes! I think that would be cool!  

also on the bread recipe.. it's calling for a silicon loaf pan.  I have no idea what that is?  I have a meatloaf pan.. can I use that?    
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A silicon loaf pan is one of those rubbery plastic (usually red or blue) ones... *shudder*
Yep a meatloaf pan should be fine... Just check what each holds in terms of amount of mixture?!
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I found a recipe for a bread in the Clean Living magazine which is no longer in print called Honey Almond Sunflower Loaf.  I thought it was excellent.  It can also be made into muffins by simply reducing the baking time to 15 to 20 minutes. The recipe is as follows:

1 cup almond meal
3/4 cup buckwheat flour
1 1/4 cup quinoa flour
3 tsp. baking powder
1 egg
2 egg whites
1 cup unsweetened soy, almond or rice milk
1/3 cup olive oil
2 T raw organic honey
1/4 cup plus 1 T unsalted sunflower seeds (raw or toasted)

Preheat oven to 350.  In a medium bowl whisk 1st 4 ingredients together.
In a small bowl whisk egg, egg whites, milk, oil, honey and 1/4 cup seeds.  Add wet ingredients to dry ingredients and combine.  Do not over mix.

Mist a 9 or 10 inch loaf pan with cooking spray (I use parchment paper - much easier to get out of pan).  Pour batter into pan and sprinkle remaining 1 T sunflower seeds over top of loaf.  Bake 40 to 45 minutes.  Cool before slicing.  Delicious and all diamonds or superfoods.



Coud I use any flour in place of the Quinoa Flour?  I have Millet on hand and Teff.
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Why are you taking the olive leaf extract? I think I remember reading somewhere that olive leaf AND oregano oil are good for sinus issues. But, more energy? Wonderful!

I've heard people lately raving about it being so wonderful for so many different things I decided I would give it a try, especially because it is suggested for helping keep our blood pressure normal. Besides being great for energy, etc.. I feel wonderful too! One of my sons and his wife started taking it today.


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I have found both millet and teff work beautifully in baking

I love, love, love millet!!! It makes delicious "cornbread!" I grind my own because it tastes better. I haven't gotten around to using teff yet. Glad you reminded me of it!


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I found a recipe for a bread in the Clean Living magazine which is no longer in print called Honey Almond Sunflower Loaf.  I thought it was excellent.  It can also be made into muffins by simply reducing the baking time to 15 to 20 minutes. The recipe is as follows:

1 cup almond meal
3/4 cup buckwheat flour
1 1/4 cup quinoa flour
3 tsp. baking powder
1 egg
2 egg whites
1 cup unsweetened soy, almond or rice milk
1/3 cup olive oil
2 T raw organic honey
1/4 cup plus 1 T unsalted sunflower seeds (raw or toasted)

Preheat oven to 350.  In a medium bowl whisk 1st 4 ingredients together.
In a small bowl whisk egg, egg whites, milk, oil, honey and 1/4 cup seeds.  Add wet ingredients to dry ingredients and combine.  Do not over mix.

Mist a 9 or 10 inch loaf pan with cooking spray (I use parchment paper - much easier to get out of pan).  Pour batter into pan and sprinkle remaining 1 T sunflower seeds over top of loaf.  Bake 40 to 45 minutes.  Cool before slicing.  Delicious and all diamonds or superfoods.

Sounds wonderful and I can have everything except the sunflower seed. Easy, easy!! Thanks!! I wonder if two eggs would work. Yolks are better for me than whites.... I would probably add some sea salt too.


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A silicon loaf pan is one of those rubbery plastic (usually red or blue) ones... *shudder*
Yep a meatloaf pan should be fine... Just check what each holds in terms of amount of mixture?!


I like the idea of using parchment to line the pan.


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Sounds wonderful and I can have everything except the sunflower seed. Easy, easy!! Thanks!! I wonder if two eggs would work. Yolks are better for me than whites.... I would probably add some sea salt too.
I reckon 2 eggs would work just as well!!
I wonder what you could sub for quinoa?
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I like the idea of using parchment to line the pan.


Yes. And I want to use sorghum flour instead of millet (don't know why, only know that when I eat millet I can't stop eating.)

The psyllium husks are a real mystery to me. Flax and chia provide enough "goo" without psyllium, don't you think????

BTW where are our DANES to weigh in on such things?  


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And I want to use sorghum flour instead of millet (don't know why, only know that when I eat millet I can't stop eating.)

The psyllium husks are a real mystery to me. Flax and chia provide enough "goo" without psyllium, don't you think????
Do you get sorghum as a teacher (or on your swami)? It's an avoid for Explorers and Gatherers and completely unlisted for Hunters, so I have never bought it (or even seen it down here)

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Sorghum is a black dot on my Hunter Swami.

You could sub rice bran for the psyllium husks maybe.  


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Do you get sorghum as a teacher (or on your swami)? It's an avoid for Explorers and Gatherers and completely unlisted for Hunters, so I have never bought it (or even seen it down here)



Yes, its exclusive to A's as a neutral and I guess cos I'm parts Teacher and Warrior in bone measurement. It looks like millet but it's bigger in size and sort of green yellow, described as a staple food in India. The USA likes to use it for cattle feed because it is a source of sweetener.


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Quoted from Munchkin76
Sorghum is a black dot on my Hunter Swami.

You could sub rice bran for the psyllium husks maybe.  


Nevertheless I was wondering "why" psyllium husks because there's a good bit of cementing "goo" in the recepie already; I've heard they're tasteless.

I don't know how absorbent sorghum is so I asked.



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Ok.. I've got the original recipe in post one on the counter waiting to put it in the oven!  The only substitution was I used Flax Meal instead of seeds (as I was out of the seeds), and pumpkin seeds instead of sunflower.

I will report soon!
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ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS!!!    AND so EASY to make!!! This is a winner!!!  

Again the only substitutes I used were flax seed meal instead of seeds and pumpkin seeds instead of sunflower seeds.  Since I used flax meal, I added 1/4 cup more water as she suggested in the section after the recipe.  Also I used Ghee as Coconut Oil is an avoid.  
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Awesome! Well done BluesSinger! I can't wait to give it a go - so many diamonds. Maybe this weekend I'll have a try.

Thanks again for re-posting your results!

Andy


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I think next time I'll add 1 more tbl of either agave or molasses.  I think it would rock a little more with just a bit more sweetness.  
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Hooray, BluesSinger!!! I can't get my brain focused on my usual baking, let alone this bread that I am dying to try! It is a good thing I did a ton of baking before Christmas or we wouldn't be having much baked stuff to eat right now. Too, too many other things on my mind right now.... But this bread is at the top of the list of things I want to do ASAP!


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Ok.. today experiment with the bread is I am exchanging Quiona for the oats, pumpkin seeds for the sunflowers seeds, and using Dr. D's Trelahose Complex for the sweetener.  

So... we will see...

Reporting back later tonight.
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Quoted from BluesSinger
Ok.. today experiment with the bread is I am exchanging Quiona for the oats, pumpkin seeds for the sunflowers seeds, and using Dr. D's Trelahose Complex for the sweetener.  

So... we will see...

Reporting back later tonight.


Ok... reporting back!  This recipe with the above adjustments rocks even more than the original unless you are just a huge fan of Oats.  Oats are a Neutral or a Black Dot of me and Quiona is a diamond so you know which way I'm going!  Plus using the Trehalose gives it a nice mild sweetness that doesn't make me (a sugar addict), want to eat more.  It's satisfying to have just one slice.  I did have to add a bit more water since the Quiona absorbs more water than the oats, but not much.  

Next time I'm going to try making this and adding dried dates!  oh my!!!
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