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Rev144
Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 2:43am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I have read Live right for your type and  have been staying away from the stuff I am not suppose to have ( corn, wheat, tomatoes, ect.) Then I read over the Cook Right for your type book.  I looked at the 30 day diet plan and my mouth hit the floor and images of 3 refrigerators full of stuff to cook for the next 30 days and endless hours in the kitchen trying to fix all this stuff.  

A little history:
On Dec 3rd I started a water fast, I lasted 8 days then switched to a green juice fast.  It lasted until day 20, when I introduced whole salad ( the fast was great, it turned my carb cravings into green cravings.) That was last Wednesday, I have slowly been adding more to my plate.   From day 1 to day 15 I lost 19 lbs.  Then I hit a plateau. Since then (11 days) I have not lost any weight. I am staying right about the same.  I have worked into full meals, about 1/3 of what I use to eat per sitting.  Here is what my normal day looks like
Breakfast: Green juice ( kale, chard, collards, spinach, romaine, carrots, apple, cucumber) and two eggs.
Lunch: Huge salad - 2 cups of spinach and romaine, 1 HB egg, 1 slice of jack cheese, 2 tablespoons cottage cheese, and a table spoon or two of dressing (oil - vinegar- garlic salt - cayenne Pepper, honey) then I have about 1/3 cup of navy beans and some green beans mixed in. (occasionally, meat mixed in)  
Dinner: Different things ...Last night was the Lamb Stew in the CR4YT, with carrots and rice.
  Tonight, 1/4 C.  hamburger meat crumbles, 1/2 c  green beans,1.5 C. romaine salad with carrot shreds and vinegar dressing.
Snack, fruit or Fruit smoothie.

I am a 47 year old female and have about 30 lbs to loose. I think I am still detoxing some as I still have bumps on my back that itch. I don't think I have ever eaten this many greens or raw food. My outlook has been good and I feel great.  I have not been drinking cow milk since Fukushima (March 11), my goat just had a baby and I will be getting milk and cheese soon.  

Some questions:

How do I get over this plateau?

Is there something that I could look at besides the 30 day menu plan that would be easier to read, as in  Bfast : 1 serv of meat, 1 serv of dairy Lunch 1 serv of veggies, ECT....

I am not sure I have the time to cook all the things in the cook book nor does it all agree with me!!

Should I be exercising?

How long after eating the right foods does it take for the weight to start coming off?
What should my meal portion size be?

What is this Swami diet, or the Geno diet, is this something that I should do>?

Anyway, thanks for any help you might give!

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Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 2:47am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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read and watch the video on your individuality
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeB_basic.asp
...............................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXPJuoBIMY

try this quiz to jump start your plan
http://www.4yourtype.com/WLP_BTD.asp

click on let s get started

once you have things under control, you can decide if you wish to go the GTD way
and eventually get a swami.......

More information on SWAMI diets can be found at:
http://www.4yourtype.com/swamixp_video.asp
http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/swamigenotype.htm


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ABJoe
Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 3:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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How do I get over this plateau?

Eat good food, let the body heal or detox or lose weight as it sees fit.  It knows intrinsically what it needs even though it may not always tell the conscious part of the brain.  If you are not eating enough, the body will enter a "conserve" mode and hang onto all calories, so make sure you eat enough.
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Should I be exercising?

How long after eating the right foods does it take for the weight to start coming off?

What should my meal portion size be?

Exercise will depend on you.  If you are able to do some exercise, then yes, I think you should, but start slowly and build rather than starting huge and "failing".

The length of time to lose weight is very individual.  There are so many variables that it is impossible to provide a guess.  The best I can say is that the body will start putting energy into the highest priority for it, which may be healing something, removing weight, etc...

For portion size, I would recommend the lower end of the portions recommended in the diet you are following.  Too low and the body will be in conserve mode, too high and you'll never lose weight.  You have to have enough to allow any healing, though, so this is something you'll need to work out.


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Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 3:44am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi Rev144,

You may want to consider reading the Geno-Type book and website. I started out on the LR4YT and felt fabulous. Initially I lost some weight but more importantly, I felt so much better. Like you, I did not lose any additional weight after following the diet for about a month. I bought the Geno-Type book and found that I am a Gatherer. BINGO!!! Since following that diet and adding some of the supplements that Dr. D'Adamo indicates as best for B's and Gatherers, I have been shedding a pound or two a week!

Best wishes as you search for balance!
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Yes you need to exercise. Type B need vigorous exercise, and relaxing exercise the next day.
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Andrea AWsec
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Sounds like your body said enough is enough. Slow weight loss is so much better for the body.

Fasting is very stressful, as is cutting calorie restriction.

This way of eating is more about what you eat and portions then it is about the calories.

I suggest you relax and eat the foods on the list and be less extreme.  



  





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When I was active on a weight loss site, a plateau was defined as no loss in weight or inches for 3 months. So if the scale stays the same but you lose inches (losing fat while gaining muscle) it's not considered a plateau. Similarly, if your clothes continue to fit the same, but the scale is moving, it's not a platau. Those two things (looking slimmer and the numbers on the scale going down) don't always happen at the same time, although both happen with serious fat loss.

You've just lost 19 pounds this month! That's absolutely incredible! It makes sense that your body now needs time to get used to this fat loss, perhaps detox from some toxins released when the fat was released, etc,  before being ready to let go of any more weight. 11 or 12 days of the same weight is NOT a plateau! Not yet!  And that's without even asking you how your clothes are fitting or if your body measurements are going down or where you are in your menstrual cycle.

Fasting can be good for re-setting your hunger patterns and to do a quick detox, but that way of eating isn't sustainable. You need to eat adequate quantities of real foods for long-term health maintenance and healthy weight loss. Expect the weight loss to be slower than it was at first. A loss of about 2 pounds a week is the maximum that's really healthy or sustainable when you have about 30 lbs to go. (If you had 200 pounds to go, losing 10 lbs of fat per week might be realistic.) The fat loss will probably slow down even further as you get closer to goal.

For long term health, you're going to need a regular exercise program. If you're not currently in shape, you may need to slowly build up your exercise routine. You may not be able to lose weight during this "slowly building up" process. But keep in mind that health is the ultimate goal- approaching a healthy weight is a side-effect of that process.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from DoS
Yes you need to exercise. Type B need vigorous exercise, and relaxing exercise the next day.


Wow that's sooo true, I can't handle exercise every single day ot really wears me out which is why I used to give up after a while.


B+ Nomad, mum to two type O+ boys (21 and 14) and husband type O+
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Victoria
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At the least, get your secretor status tested.  It will help you refine your program.  In my case, finding that I'm a non-secretor changed many of the foods I ate, much for the better.

But moving on to the Genotype diet melted off many stubborn pounds that nothing else would touch.



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
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Rev144
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Thank you everyone for your help, links and comments.

What is the difference between the Genotype and the Swami?

Do you have to have your secretor status to do the Geno or Swami?

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Victoria
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In order of becoming more personalized:
Blood Type Diet
Blood Type Diet with Secretor Status
Genotype Diet
SWAMI

http://www.dadamo.com/media/gtd.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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For some individuals, GTD is a "step backwards" compared to BTD with secretor status, or even compared to BTD at all. I personally did poorly on the "by the book" Gatherer diet. SWAMI is always the best (provided you fill it out accurately.) Some people's SWAMI is mostly GTD values with a few BTD values thrown in, others have the opposite.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from Rev144

Do you have to have your secretor status to do the Geno or Swami?



In my case, I'm very happy that I did the secretor test because non-secretors are unique creatures with our own set of qualities.  It has been valuable to add another level of self understanding to my approach to health.



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Do you have to have your secretor status to do the Geno or Swami?

It may be necessary to determine the book Genotype, as some rely on the Secretor test for a final determination.

SWAMI will run without Secretor status being entered, although the more data you can enter, the more your output will reflect the real you.


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I have the cook book but only use it like I’d use any other cookbook, when I want to look up something.  You don’t have to make elaborate meals 3 times a day 7 days a week.  I work and travel so I surely don’t have the time or energy to do that. I’m a nibbler, so I like things I can quickly munch on in-between the 3 main meals.  Just make sure what you prepare doesn’t have any avoids in it.  Don’t eat more than a portion or a serving of something at one time. A portion can be meat/fish that fits the length of your hand, nuts in the cupped palm, potato the size of your fist, etc.  

I learned long ago you don’t get results if you reduce amount of food without exercise or exercise without eating properly.  Even after you reach your desired weight you have to continue to eat right and exercise to maintain optimum health benefits.  

So find the mix that you are comfortable with and make it your lifestyle.


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  Don’t eat more than a portion or a serving of something at one time. A portion can be meat/fish that fits the length of your hand, nuts in the cupped palm, potato the size of your fist, etc.


That may  be true for protiens and grains, but it's fine to eat 2-3 portions of vegetables at a single meal. I could never feel satisfied without adequate vegetables at each meal.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Rev144 - My concern is the amount of raw cruciferous vegetables that you are consuming. If you have a tendency toward a sluggish thyroid, this will make it worse.  Google - raw cruciferous vegetables and thyroid health.

Congratulations on your weight loss and determination!
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Quoted from Rev144

How do I get over this plateau?

Should I be exercising?

How long after eating the right foods does it take for the weight to start coming off?
What should my meal portion size be?

What is this Swami diet, or the Geno diet, is this something that I should do>?



I'd like to chime in and throw out a few ideas. Hope I can help. If the 30 pounds was put on gradually, expect it to come off very slow. Please be patient, and don't beat yourself up or hurt yourself by getting extreme or worrying about getting over a plateau. Balance is the name of this game. I'm very slender and whenever weighing on a scale, I tend to fluctuate 15-20 pounds throughout the year. activities, cold weather, seasons sunlight must have something to do with it.

I recently joined a gym for 10 bucks a month and trying out all the exercise machines at a leisurely pace. I try to do different 30 minute workouts each time I go. I'm doing single sets of 21 repetitions as a rule. I'm using small weights that are quite comfortable and not pushing myself to injury or over soreness. My favorite outdoor  exercise is walking. 30 minutes is usually enough. I try to get some direct sunlight on my skin everyday. Before joining the gym, I'd try to do 10 minutes of astanga or tibet yoga videos at home, or sometimes a bikram studio session. My goal now is to feel good and have a stronger core and more endurance. I'm happy that I don't own a scale. I check at the supermarket some times.

The weight might not come off. If you accept that and concern yourself about more important things, you'll be happier.

Find the right benficial foods off the type b lists that you already enjoy. Try out some new ones, you might not prepare it correctly the first time, stick with it. I have a feeling from what you wrote that not having dairy since May has been a problem and thrown you out of balance making you believe the mularkey about detoxing. Cottage cheese is terrible choice of dairy in my opinion, please find some yogurt you like and cook with it and use it raw in recipes.

If you are doing heavy activity, you might be able to burn more food so your portions and carbs could be bigger than "normal". Restricting carbs can make type b's cranky and tired. Find balance

I'm thinking about also trying out the swami diet program. i ordered the secretor test first. From what i understand reading this forum, it helps you fine tune it all to the way you like it.
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