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Mayflowers
Thursday, May 12, 2011, 3:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Anyone make grain kefir?  I saw a kit online that I was thinking of getting...

http://www.waterkefirgrains.com/

I don't want milk kefir.. I wanted the real thing..

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I love Kombucha, so I imagine I'll love water kefir. I've not tried it, but that link piqued my curiosity. If you decide to go that route, let us know. I may follow.


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I wanted the 'original' kefir. Not the one they make with cow's milk. It think the grain kefir is healthier.  Especially for those of us who are allergic to dairy.  
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I wanted the 'original' kefir. Not the one they make with cow's milk. It think the grain kefir is healthier.  Especially for those of us who are allergic to dairy.  


It makes sense and is worth a try.  Hope you love it and it loves you!  



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The "original" kefir was made with milk, although I'm not sure what kind of milk. Since I beleive kefir came from Arabia, it may have been camel milk. The kefir grains themselves can be cultured in any kind of milk, even coconut milk (as discussed on Traditional Foods forums, as a non-dairy alternative, long before I learned about BTD.)

Water kefir grains are similar to milk kefir grains (and I think milk kefir grains can be converted to water kefir grains) but I think the flora is slightly different. These grains can be fermented in sugar water or juice. I'm currently hesitant to try them because it's not rated in SWAMI. Regular milk kefir is an avoid for me (even though it made my tummy feel good when I used to drink it) and I don't want to mess up my health with any experiments right now. But it's supposed to ferment something that tastes like  soda, but is full of  probiotics.


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Thanks for the info ruthie.  "Kefir" is a super beneficial for me.  It's listed as a dairy item so it must be the milk kefir.  I thought the original kefir was made from grains and not dairy..? Really?
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I just might have to do some experimenting - thanks for the link
MF I have only heard of milk, juice or water kefir?! I always thought referring to the "kefir grains" meant the granules that got added to the liquid to make kefir??!!

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I always thought referring to the "kefir grains" meant the granules that got added to the liquid to make kefir??!!


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I can understand how it gets confusing, so I was not trying to be right or show anyone up
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I can understand how it gets confusing, so I was not trying to be right or show anyone up


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Mabe that is where I got the "grain" idea from? I could have sworn I read here in other threads that kefir started from people making a beverage from fermented grains. I don't know... confusing...
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The site you linked doesn't say anything about kefiring "grains".  It does sell the kefir "grains" though, which are the little bacteria spongy little things that you put into your water, milk whatever, to do the kefiring.  Or culturing.  I would recommend trying it if you never have.  But if you're like me, proceed cautiously.  I get violent reactions to kefir.  Especially when I made it with the grains.  It may be that the kefir is so aggressive to whatever bad stuff I have in my gut that I feel awful.  And I mean in such minute amounts.  Like just tasting it off a fork I dipped into it.  I'm still uncertain if I did something wrong in making it or what.  But I'm sensitive.  I get this with many cultured foods and have to take it real slow.  I'm probably not the only one, although I've never heard of anyone as sensitive as I.  But I think kefir and other cultured products are probably a really great idea.  My main ones are cultured veggies though.  I do eat a little cultured butter / cod liver oil that seems to work well, but I'm also very sensitive to that.  And I'm trying to get some sourdough bread made.


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Hi, I've received a kefir without grains! Searching in internet I think his names is kumis, but i'm not sure. Do you know about it?

The result is like kefir, but you don't have grains, only bacterias. You always leave something of kefir in the bottle and fill with milk and wait 24 hours. And the bacterias do they work. It's easier and you don't have too see your grains growing,
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I'm once again very fatigued & will be breaking up with kefir for probably the last time.  It's just not working for me.  I do have a great source of grains though.  Google Marilyn the kefir lady.  She lives in Ohio & sells authentic grains for $20.  I read her website, she seems like a very nice lady.
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Dairy kefir is different from water kefir. Here's a good site for how to make water kefir Culture for Health. If you are trying to wean yourself off of sugar, water kefir may not be the way to go.


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Why is that Drea?
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Did you watch the video link I posted? The water kefir grains are added to sugar water...do the math .


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Aaah No I couldn't watch - have dialup I was always told that when sugar was added to fermenting foods, the effect was negligible, due to the sugar getting "eaten" in the fermenting process
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Perhaps you are right? I'm off sugar again, so someone else will have to try it and let me know. I would love to find a probiotic beverage that I could drink without guilt or adverse affects!


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Quoted from JJR
  I would recommend trying it if you never have.  But if you're like me, proceed cautiously.  I get violent reactions to kefir.  Especially when I made it with the grains.  .


I never had a problem with dairy kefir. It's like drinking yogurt for me. No reaction. I suppose because you're not a Warrior..?  Kefir is a diamond for me.
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Perhaps you are right? I'm off sugar again, so someone else will have to try it and let me know. I would love to find a probiotic beverage that I could drink without guilt or adverse affects!


Wow..didn't know water kefir used sugar.. ok..forget that. Thanks for the tip.
I haven't bought the grain kefir stuff. Maybe I'll just stick with the dairy kefir.  
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Water kefir needs a sugar source. You can use sugar water, or you can use juice. It doesn't need to be refined sugar! It's my understanding that juice was the first thing used, and later people realzied sugar water worked too.

And also remember that the sugar gets converted into something else as part of the culturing process, just as kefir made from milk is incredibly low in lactose- the milk sugars get used up in teh culturign process.


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My point...
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Whew! That's good to know. I'm still on the fence about buying the grains. Any takers?


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I have made water kefir! It is So good, and it is refreshing! Has a little bubbly in it....great on a hot day.

I made it using very little brown sugar and used sulfate free dried fruit - It was SO yummy! I still have my grains in the fridge, but I fear that they are dead since I have not fed them in a while.




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