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MMMM...cereal.....the icy cold with the crunchy crunch.....the other day I was desperate for some type of cereal so I took plain soy milk, frozen blueberries, nuts and flaxseeds....made a good substitute....lol


making my own personal type snack might be the same as making my own saladdressing or my own Cajun spices... takes some figuring out while I sit in the corner for my pity party-- 10 minutes might accomplish all that .. what does your pity chair look like?? to me right now its like one of the boxes for funerals.. ha maybe I need to paint it red?

AND then let me please say I am sorryyyyy and send you a hug..: I miss someone who would be with me and cooks his or her own compliant meal and supports me in my compliancy.. now that would be a treat that would make me smile again.. 10 minutes of self pity, then back to a glass of cocoa powder in hot water.  I wonder -- should it be brewed through a filter as would be coffee leaving the 'powder' in the sieve instead inside of ME drinking it?  I wonder what happens to all that fine grid inside me.. ?  

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Aw, come on.  You know you want to come.  

So what's one or two foods you'd really like to nibble on that you've deprived yourself of for months or years?

I had some black pepper tonight.  It was delicious.  Now I'm ready to quit it again.

HONESTLY--and I really do mean this--there is NOTHING that I feel deprived of or really miss, and so much that I enjoy and delight in on the GTD.  It is getting back to the time of year now in Florida during which I can live on colorful, fresh CHI, CHI, CHI in fresh salads of romaine and tomato or grapes, and fruits like mangoes (had the best mangoes of my LIFE last week), watermelon (it's back, it's back!!!  And once the organic ones get good--right now I'm eating the non--I will be LIVING ON IT all summer, if it is anything like as fabulous as last year's crop) and pineapple.  I picked some fresh basil, "sweet mint" (I think it is spearmint) and parsley from my new little container herb garden for my salad night before last--yum!

That said, I am not 100% compliant, and I think that is one of my secrets for how to sustain this or any diet for a lifetime:  find out what the IMPORTANT things are for you to be compliant on, and then don't sweat the small stuff.  For example, I am really in a phase right now of putting a homemade yogurt dressing or sauce on everything.  Okay--wait, bad example, as I've been meaning to post that I'm not sure if yogurt is an avoid or a superfood for my Gatherer type, as the book is confusing on that, so let's take another example:  MAYO!  Wait--bad example again, as homemade mayo could be a superfood.  Well, yogurt and mayo are basically the only avoids I ingest on a regular basis, so I am highly compliant and I am 100% compliant on the huge things for me, such as:  wheat and wheat products (I never eat them), corn and corn products (ditto), coffee (ditto), and any and all "junk" ingredients, which, believe me, lets out a lot of food in our society.  I read labels meticulously and I simply won't eat cr*p, period.  The only exception is when my sister and her fam are here in July, which is my most challenging time of the year, "food sobriety"-wise, as ALL we do is eat out at HIDEOUS restaurants the ENTIRE time they are here, morning, noon and night.  It is a surreal series of bad corn syrup dispenseries, I cannot emphasize that enough.  Even then, I do my d*mndest to completely avoid wheat and corn.  But at restaurants, there is NO WAY to avoid junky wheaty corny INFUSION.  ANYWAY:  usually, I am the picture of strict compliance on the big things, and I do choose superfoods over neutrals and both over avoids, but I do eat yogurt and I do eat mayo (organic, non-GMO!), and I will sometimes eat black dots like chicken (okay, I eat a lot of chicken), etc.

So do I miss anything?  NO, as I really know and understand what wheat, for example, does to me, so why would I pine for that, ya know?  And there are so many satisfying alternatives, I don't need wheat, or any avoids, but if you are going to FORCE me to this party, let me think...alright, got it:

Being a Maryland girl, I miss my crab, shrimp and lobster.  But I don't avoid it due to the BTD/GTD, even though they are avoids, as those ARE great examples of avoids I personally wouldn't worry about because I don't think they are big avoids for me.  I avoid them because of good old humankind poisoning the shrimp with chemical dispersant during the Gulf Oil Spill...and crab and lobster are too expensive anyway.  

This party s*cks, I want my compliant GTD fare!  Waaaaaaaaaaah!  I want to go home!  



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Peppermint Twist  -  Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 1:50pm
does ANYONE but me still say "ditto", let alone know what it means?
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I miss coconut more than anything else. I've been dairy-free for so long that it's second nature to me, even if it's something I keep stopping and starting. I don't really miss milk at all. But I've used coconut milk as a creamer for so long- that rich, creamy flavor and mouth feel- yum!

Okay, see, now coconut is an avoid I eat shamelessly.  If I'm at a Thai restaurant (my fave, tied with Chinese), I WILL get some sort of curry containing coconut milk and don't even try to stop me.

'Cause that's how this rebel rolls.  



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Potato chips with sour cream and onion dip!

Aaah, well, now you've gone and done it.  You've hit upon my drug of choice.  However, I must really be a "recovering addict" because, once any addict regains their biochemical balance and is steady, centered and healthy again, the drug doesn't have the same power or pull for them as it used to.  And such is the case with me and chips and dip right now.  I say "right now", because like any addict in recovery, I'm not and never will be "cured", I'm rather "in recovery".  There's a difference.  Staying humble is key, I strongly believe.  So I'll just say again that right now, I'm in a strong place of balance, courtesy of the GTD, and I can stare down a bowl of chips and it's gorgeous sidekick, sour cream dip, like nobody's business.  In the immortal words of Sawyer on LOST:  "Come on, bring it!"

I'd rather have my romaine salad with red grapes (those are an avoid, btw, but see, there are avoids and then there are AVOIDS, as I see it...grapes are just an avoid) and creamy yogurt dressing.  And, if you are going to be picky about it, I'll have it with red grape tomatoes (superfood!) instead of the grapes.  But I will have my yogurt dressing, okay?

BTW, tonight, I'm going to have a romaine salad with fresh MANGO and spiced ground lamb and, yes, the yogurt dressing.  'Cause that's how I roll.  



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this thread is food porn...the "penthouse letters" version!

LoL!


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The "A"s want fat.  The "O"s want STARCH/ sugar!

Dude, just have some brown basmati rice and call me in the morning.  It'll be all right.  No need to ever feel deprived on the right diet for your type!

btw, CONGRATS and kudos on your 23 lb loss--fantabulous!



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I do miss my red wine.
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I'm with you, Pep.  The longer I eat according to the GTD, the less this sort of thread interests me.  I'm not 100% compliant yet - aiming for it though - but am between 80-90% on any given day, and, frankly, there's nothing that I really miss.

I find, rather, than when I'm stuck in avoid world, as I was on Sunday (long story - daughter performance, stuck down at the venue and absolutely nothing compliant anywhere to be found), I long for the food that makes me feel good and satisfied.  I ate some of what was around, but it made me feel crappy, and I'm losing my desire for it.


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PT, I don't know if sour cream if ok for you, but it also makes a good based for dressing.
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Ice cream.


I stopped missing dairy ice cream when I tried the "So Delicous" brand of coconut milk ice cream. The ingredients on one of them is something like "coconut milk, agave" and maybe a 3rd ingredient.

I had that in mind as well when I said I missed coconut.

For my next birthday, assuming I'm feeling  good, I want to  buy a pint of that ice cream again as a special treat. It will be my only avoid for my birthday. Then I'll see how I do on it- if it makes me sick, then I won't have it again. If I feel good on it, I'll make it a regular treat.

But right now, I'm not feeling good, and I need to be 100% compliant for a while before I do any experimenting.


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I'm with you, Pep.  The longer I eat according to the GTD, the less this sort of thread interests me.  I'm not 100% compliant yet - aiming for it though - but am between 80-90% on any given day, and, frankly, there's nothing that I really miss.

I find, rather, than when I'm stuck in avoid world, as I was on Sunday (long story - daughter performance, stuck down at the venue and absolutely nothing compliant anywhere to be found), I long for the food that makes me feel good and satisfied.

Good God almighty, so do I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  My sister, bro-in-law, and 2 'phews are coming from June 30 through July 10 and I'm already DREADING, dreading, dreading it.  A big part of that dread is due to the RESTAURANT situation, namely, that all we do for the entire length of their stay is drag PT from one restaurant to another as some sort of cruel, HORRIBLE hazing ritual to get into a fraternity I don't want to belong to!!!!!  Let me out, let me out, back to my pure, organic, chi-laden, biochemically balancing, delicious, nutritious, wheat-free, corn-free, junk-free GTD fare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jane, stop this crazy thing!



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PT, I don't know if sour cream if ok for you, but it also makes a good based for dressing.

I LOVE sour cream, but I'm not supposed to have it.  The yogurt dressing I made, also containing some avoids, is healthier because it isn't as high in fat, it has probiotics, and it has olive oil, sea salt, garlic and oregano, which are superfoods for me.

I don't try for perfection but I try to do the best I can.  So, yogurt dressing, yes.  Sour cream, no...though not a "hard no".  I mean, IF a situation presented itself in which I felt like having sour cream at a restaurant or social sitch, I might, versus if a sitch presented itself where wheat, corn or junk were the only option, I would still try like H*LL to avoid it, even opting to skip a meal sometimes (me out with my sister and her fam at certain restaurants:  "I'll just have a huge vat of iced tea with a just-as-huge vat of lemon slices, please.").

I wish I hadn't learned on the news recently that a whopping 74% of lemon slices in restaurants contain fecal e-coli bacteria on them.

Howie Mandel, OUT!  


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I stopped missing dairy ice cream when I tried the "So Delicous" brand of coconut milk ice cream. The ingredients on one of them is something like "coconut milk, agave" and maybe a 3rd ingredient.

I had that in mind as well when I said I missed coconut.

For my next birthday, assuming I'm feeling  good, I want to  buy a pint of that ice cream again as a special treat. It will be my only avoid for my birthday. Then I'll see how I do on it- if it makes me sick, then I won't have it again. If I feel good on it, I'll make it a regular treat.

But right now, I'm not feeling good, and I need to be 100% compliant for a while before I do any experimenting.

Smart.  Me approves.  *thumbs up*  


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Rather than dragging your butts to restaurants, would your family be willing to do some take-out? This way they can  eat their restaurant c**p, while you get to eat healthy home-cooked meals?

I personally wouldn't put up with not eating well for an entire month because of houseguests. Can't you at least eat breakfast at home before drinking green tea while they eat pancakes at a restaurant? Can they go out to eat without you sometimes? Could they eat junk cereal at your kitchen table for breakfast while you eat a homecooked breakfast some days?


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I'm thinking about your 10 days of restaurants, PT and I'm wondering if you'd be better off seeing
this as a test of your strength and flexibility.  You've been through a lot lately and survived extremely well...
nothing really got the best of you and despite all these ridiculous health issues, you did come
through all of it like a superstar.  All of your tests were initially filled with anxiety..but perhaps this time, you don't go that way.... Perhaps you just approach this as the glass is half full....You will still have choices in restaurants.  As someone who can eat beef/steak, perhaps steak houses or steak and seafood houses so you can have some compliant fish........salads...Most restaurants will serve you compliant vegetables, broccoli for example with some olive oil....OK, not organic. But I eat out fairly often and the food isn't organic, but still it's compliant.   What do you think Dr. D does when he eats out?   I'm sure he enjoys himself.

Perhaps, look at it this way.  Isn't there something good about having flexibility in all situations? Taking a little obstacle and finding some creative way to overcome it?

If I were you, I'd start thinking about the solution....not the problem.

Maybe some meals at home, some dinners out...or eat less out and come home and fill in
what you can from your kitchen.

You're a woman who lost 85 pounds.  Don't you see yourself as a very strong, capable woman who can do just about anything?   Why dread a restaurant?  You've overcome bigger, scarier things than a restaurant!

You can do this~


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Sour cream, no...though not a "hard no".

I like the way you put this.  I have some things I "don't eat" but will make exceptions for from time to time (soft no's), and others I don't EVER want to eat in any situation short of starvation (hard no's).
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The restaurant situation is tricky.  There's something about eating together that strengthens ties.  More than any food, I miss just sitting down together with family and friends, eating without worrying about what I'm eating, and just enjoying the company.

Ps: All this talk of coconut has me wanting an Almond Joy.
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I like the way you put this.  I have some things I "don't eat" but will make exceptions for from time to time (soft no's), and others I don't EVER want to eat in any situation short of starvation (hard no's).





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Chloe and Ruthiegirl, I've tried for years to explain the family dynamics of my relationship with my sister to people and I've found that it can't be done.  I can't even explain it to myself.  I've gone to therapy about it, I've banged my head against the wall over it for years, I've tried this approach and that approach, and the bottom line is:  I'm a TOTAL doormat around my (younger, mind you) sister.  I could bore you with a lot of reasons why this is, but that is the bottom line.

I was thinking the other day that this upcoming visit will be their THIRD since I started the GTD in Nov (the day after Thanksgiving) 2008, as they come every summer.  So, I've survived two of their "onslaughts" since GTDing without it undoing my "food sobriety".  This was not the case on the BTD, but I seem to be far stronger and further along in my aforementioned food sobriety now (I made up that term years back but I think it was already in existence/use by folks in Overeaters Anonymous, not that I've ever been to an OA meeting...I love the term, though, as it really fits, imho).  While my sister still throws me off my game in every other way, I seem to have all the tools and tricks to hold steady on my diet now, even when they are submersing me in a big vat of corn syrup and wheat lectins, a.k.a., the American restaurant scene (particularly in central FL!).

During their last visit, I came home and cried my eyes out every evening (poor Brighid45 got the brunt of a lot of that via hysterical phone calls from moi) and, often, at work the next morning, if the next morning was a work day.  She is the most passive-aggressive, controlling person I can't describe, but I wish I could.  ANYWAY, so this time, I'm going to employ "The Kay Method".  My dear co-worker, Kay, upon picking the shattered pieces of me up off the floor one too many mornings during last year's visit, said, Edna:  "you have to just let everything she says roll right off your shoulders.  Physically flick your shoulder like you are flicking something off, she won't notice."  Mind you, it isn't like EVERYONE in my life hasn't ALWAYS told me that I'm too sensitive about EVERYTHING, and I need to let things roll off my shoulders, and I need, as my mom says, to grow "a thicker skin" (how does one do that, pray tell, don't you just have the density skin you are born with?  INFJ ALERT!), but somehow what Kay said got through re my sister especially, as I really think that form of "detachment" is my best option at this point, short of total estrangement, which is just too sad.

Anyway, trust me, I do try to beg off meals, especially if they are "just going to hang" around the pool or something, so we aren't GOING anywhere, then it is like, oh, you are all going to brunch?  Well, why don't I meet you are your condo AFTER that, as I already ate, darn the luck.  But even with all my brilliant strategizing and even on those visits where, mercifully, their time here only falls on one full weekend (this year I have TWO full weekends AND the 4th of July on a weekday), and when they are staying at my mom's cousin Ginny's house, which usually means at least one meal where we grill out there (yay! I bring my own stuff for anyone who wants it, like salad and bison--only not bison anymore since it got recalled and I went off it, but I digress), I always end up being dragged to a minimum of five billion RESTAURANTS until just the brink of madness...or BEYOND.  The year (2004 or 5) they were here for 21 straight days is when I did go mad.  Gained all the weight I'd lost back, starting from that point--second time I did that on the BTD, if I recall.  That WON'T happen again.  Will NOT.  I have never lost this much weight before, and I don't plan to gain it back, let the record show.  I can't afford to, and I don't plan to, and I feel STRONG in my GTD balance.  Yeah!

I mean, I can't ever be SURE of that, but I feel pretty confident, as I do have the tools I need now, finally.  I will be challenged and I may even slip and slide and bruise my dietary knees, but I'll get right back up again, I predict.  I survived 2009 and 10's visits with my food sobriety intact, so again (second time today!) I must quote Sawyer from LOST:  come on, bring it!

No worries.  "The Kay Method" is on board!


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I'd like to be able to eat shrimp and lobster without vomiting...    Since I've been on the BTD, my avoids are really being avoids.. crikey...   I mean lobster was my favorite food..My mom used to make it for dinner for me on my birthday...    I used to like shrimp too...stopped both when I went on the BTD.. then...
a couple of years later, I tried to eat them.. occassionally.. and OMG... I got incredibly ill from both crustaceans!!
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I do miss my red wine.


Red wine is a  beneficial for A's... isn't it?      Well it's a super beneficial on my SWAMI
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I laughed pretty good with this thread.  

I could write a book about all the foods I love that don't eat.

Just a few to tempt a few of you that I don't think were mentioned:


Gyro's, slathered with that white sauce, raw onions and that nice thick pita it comes in.  With some good fries on the side.

A Hardee's frisco Burger.  That deliciously tangy bread and cheese on top of that mystery meat and whatever else goodness there is in there.

Cheesecake.  I could go on for years about all the sweets I miss though.  French silk pie.  Ohhhh.  Peanut butter cups.

Oh YEAH!!! Bagels and locks. Oh man, that cream cheese and red onions on that deep fried bagel with that smoked piece of awesomeness.  With those capers on it.  That is just awesome.  I think that's gotta be the one I miss the most.  

Waffle house waffles. Pancakes.  Bacon is not that high on my list.  It's good though.


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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