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Victoria
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Unsalted is always recommended, but I always use salted, because the only local brand of organic butter from grass-fed cows (in my area) is salted.  I find that the salt ends up on the bottom and the ghee doesn't taste salty.



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I haven't used salted butter, but most of what I've read about ghee recommends unsalted.  But, make do with what you have!  


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Quoted from balletomane
If one absolutely has to use unsalted butter, then I only have a piece that's half a pound. So should I expect to use half the time as suggested?

I started using salted butter as well, but now use unsalted..  The ghee tastes the same either way...  The salt stays with solids...


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Thanks for your replies.

I have made the ghee now... the second batch I've ever made. Turned out to be brown as well  

I already set the gas stove at the lowest heat. It took only 10 minutes for the sizzling sound and steams to disappear. At this point, when I removed the foam on the surface, the liquid underneath is already a medium dark shade of brown. Does it mean my stove is just too hot for this job   I did taste a bit of the ghee thus made, and it seems totally fine. The smell is heavenly!




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why not get a small portable electric burner for the job? i have seenthem in catalogs like fingerhut and even jcpenny. i think i have seen then in places like walmart and target as well. i don't recall them as beong very exspensive and you would be able to git the lower heat. it dose sound like your stove is just too hot to handle  


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Hmm, I won't be able to buy those you mentioned here in Asia... but maybe a very small slow burner similar to crockpot... the modern ones people use to make Chinese medicinal soup with electricity, perhaps. Need to experiment more!




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10 minutes is too short and your low setting might be way too high

the oven method might be best for you then


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Oh I see. But by now I figure it would probably be best to buy ghee directly from the store because it costs about the same amount to buy the organic butter that would yield the amount of ghee in the ready-made bottle . Both need to be imported. It's only when they do a sale on the butter that I stock up and put in the freezer, then it would be more economical to make my own ghee. I guess I can still put this ghee into homemade chocolate?




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I wonder if one of those cup warmers would work for you Ballet? If you could get a very small pot it might be slow enough to work?!
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What about something to set over the burner to lift the pot up higher?  Some kind of ring?  I used to see those for use with glass coffee pots.



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If you don't have a simmer feature on your stove you could try a heat diffuser or flame tamer. An example is found on the following link. They can be found in a wide variety of prices and quality.

http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=190609


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balletomame use a double boiler like I did...just remember to keep adding water to the bottom pot...I'm not an expert but the double boiler is always good for that kind of stuff (like melting chocolate, etc) if your flame doesn't get very low.


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This is the link I used:

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/ButterGhee.htm

Making Clarified Butter and Ghee Tips and Hints:

Always use unsalted butter. Use organic butter or the best butter you can buy. Cheap butter contains lots of water and chemicals, plus it burns much faster.

When making clarified butter always start with at least 25% more unsalted butter than the amount of clarified butter needed, as the volume is reduced during the melting and straining process.


    1 pound of butter = about 1 1/2 cups clarified butter or ghee.

Use a heavy bottomed and deep stainless steel pan. Make sure the pan you will be using is clean and dry.

Use low heat so the butter will not burn. Yes, turning up the heat will melt the butter faster, but the milk solids may begin to burn. For fast melting, cut the unsalted butter into pieces and melt slowly in a heavy saucepan for approximately 30 minutes.

Never cover the pan during the whole cooking process.

Chef's Tip - use a double boiler. This let you safely clarify your butter while busy elsewhere in the kitchen.


How To Make Clarified Butter and How To Make Butter Ghee

The only difference in making both clarified butter and ghee, is the length of the cooking time. The additional Ghee directions are in blue print below.

Place one (1) pound of unsalted butter in your pan. Over low heat, melt the butter. When the butter has completely melted, continue to heat it over low heat.

When the melted butter starts boiling, it will begin to foam and sputter a lot at first as the water boils off. Continue boiling the butter, uncovered.

As the butter melts, it will slowly separate into three (3) layers:

    The top layer is a thin layer of foam (this is the butter's water content boiling off.

    The middle layer contains the liquid.

    The bottom layer is where most of the milk solids are.

Slowly the liquid on top becomes more and more transparent. When the clarified butter has a golden transparent color, there is very little foam left on the surface, and the solids have settled on the bottom, the clarified butter is ready. The cooking time is approximately 30 minutes, depending on the heat source and the kind of pot that you use.

Remove from heat immediately as it can burn easily at this point.

Ghee:  Continue to slowly cook over low heat, watching carefully and stirring occasionally, until solids on the bottom of the pan turn light brown and the liquid deepens to golden and turns translucent and fragrant. Also a rich aroma ( aroma smells like popcorn) arises in the air. Immediately remove from the heat. Important - If you leave it on the heat too long, you will burn the residue and all of the ghee will have a burnt taste.


Ways to remove the foam and solids:

Skim off the foam after removing from heat. Let the butter cool awhile to let more of the solids settle, and then pour or spoon out the clarified butter, leaving the remain milk solids in the pan.

Pour the hot melted cutter through cheesecloth, fine-mesh skimmer, or tea strainer to filter out the foam and solids that have settled, letting the clarified butter flow into a jar.

My favorite way - Pour the hot melted butter into a container and allow it to separate on its own while cooling, and then refrigerate. After it has solidified, you can easily scrape off the hardened foam on top.

Use a gravy or fat separator to make the skimming easier.

Strain the melted butter through a typical coffee filter.


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Different brands of butter have different water contents.  I have tried several brands of organic butter and noticed how much volume I lose from the process.  The one I currently use has such a low moisture content, I end up with just a couple of Tb short of what I originally started out with.



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Thanks everyone for all your wonderful suggestions. I will definitely look into the different tools to lower the temp of my ghee boiling in the future . I did put some of that brown ghee into my homemade chocolate and it was yummilicious  




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just a word of warning re double boilers, many are made from aluminium, which i would avoid at all costs.


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Quoted from Jesi
Just made ghee for the very first time ever! I didn't know you could make it at home. I put it on a double boiler, took about an hour, then put it on the stove by itself and in a few minutes the solids turned brown. Next time I'll prob just do it on the stove w/o the double boiler). Now I'm straining it through a coffee filter. Thank you ladies! The pot I made it in smells delicious (so does my house!).
I think that's a very good way to make it.
When the butter melts in the double boiler, don't the solids sink to the bottom?  So if you then carefully decant the liquid into a saucepan and raise the temperature to boil off the water, there shouldn't be any solids to burn.  Adn then you won't have to strain, which, to me, is the worst part.



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Straining is a simple one step procedure with a fine mesh strainer.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=17379291&RN=212&

Nothing else is needed;  no skimming, no cloths, filters, etc.



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Thanks to Wholefoodie and Victoria's suggestions, I have acquired the flame tamer and the fine mesh strainer in my new attempt to make ghee. And it was a success!!!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm121/balletomanehk/Ghee.jpg

This time I spent just under an hour (instead of 15 minutes, !) to finish making the ghee. I kept the flame as low as possible to make sure the ghee didn't burn. I also used unsalted butter. I found no brownish sediments at the bottom though. The ghee came out so clear and golden. Love it!!!




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Your ghee looks gorgeous, Balletmane!  
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Another ghee gallery:  http://tinyurl.com/9e7zsc


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I made my 2nd batch today and wasn't too happy... My first one overcooked I think, it came out pretty dark, but tasted ok. This one went dark really quick, but doesn't smell as nice.. I think it was on too hot   I hope to do better next time  


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So what can the solids be used for?  Seems a waste to throw it away.

Is ghee pronounced with a soft "g" or hard "g"?  Phonetically it should be hard but I was curious.


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I've only ever heard it pronounced with a hard "g"...rhymes with key.


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