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funkymuse
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in a non-yeast bread recipe?

help!  
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Though there are other forms of white flour available from a variety of different grains (spelt grain, a relative of wheat, can be ground into white flour, once the bran and germ have been refined away, and the same is true for rice) you should probably assume that, unless a product is labeled as "Wheat Free," the white flour they used was made from wheat, and would be an "Avoid" for type-B. Fortunately, however, brown rice flour and white rice flour are both excellent substitutes for wheat flour in quick-rising baked goods using baking soda or baking powder as the leavening ingredient, and rice flour is listed as HIGHLY BENEFICIAL for B-types.


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Quick breads are easier to sub out than yeast breads.


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Excellent.  I have a banana/date flax bread I want to try out and it calls for all purpose flour.  So I suppose I'll try rice flour.  

Ribbit?  Or should I go with something else?
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Ribbit-I think you said you were making some things with millet flour. How is that going?

I think someone mentioned that millet works well in quick breads, if you also include some flax meal.


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I've used spelt, oat, amaranth, millet, and rice flour to good effect in my non-yeast bread recipes. You can use blends too. I particularly like oat and amaranth together Millet and quinoa mixed together in a 1:1 ratio is a great substitute for cornmeal, btw.


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I am hoping rice flour will make a great pie crust...DH has missed his "famous" apple pie...it really is awesome....since you don't want the effects of gluten in a pie crust, rice flour should be great.
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I have a good rice flour crust, with almonds, but I'll have to look it up.  Remind me if I don't post it here in the next couple of days.  

Funky, are you trying to make it gluten free entirely?  Can you use eggs?

Will you list the ingredients for us?

Millet and flax make a nice combination.


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Ok I'll post ingredients here and then if the recipe works out I'll post it in Recipe Central.  (and yes Ribbit, I can have eggs)

1/2 Cup Flax Seed
3 Bananas
1/4 cup veg oil
1/2 cup white sugar (going to use Xyitol)
2 eggs
1-1/2 cups All -purpose Flour  
1/2 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp baking soda
1/2 tsp salt
1/4 cup flax seed
1/2 cup chopped pitted dates
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Amaranth flour would work very nicely in this recipe, f-muse. If that's not available to you, try brown rice flour. Because rice flour can be gritty or sandy, you might try mixing the wet ingredients together, then adding in just the flour and flaxseed and letting them sit for about 10-15 minutes. This lets the flour and flax soak up some of the liquid and soften, which also results in a more tender crumb. Then add the remaining ingredients and combine gently till just mixed.

Whatever flour you use will be fine, this looks like a good recipe and will be a great addition to Recipe Central


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So... I posted the link on the thread "New At Recipe Central."  It turned out beautifully.

And I didn't use the Amaranth flour Brighid45, as it's a black dot for us.  But I'll try it in future!
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I would use 1 c. millet and 1/2 c. rice there.


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I would use 1 c. millet and 1/2 c. rice there.


that's what I did, yup!  
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Personally, spelt or kamut work great where the recipe calls for "all purpose flour".
I've also been using lately a 2:1:1 ratio of oat:rice:tapioca flour, with some gelatin and ground chia added in for binding.
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Can you substitute spelt flour in any bread recipe that calls for all purpose flour?  If yes, is the ratio the same?


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Become a muffin fan, those are so easy to make with any flour base!

My typical muffin base is 1 3/4 quinoa flour and 1/4 flax meal!





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the ratio for subbing in spelt is nearly the same. Spelt however requires a bit more moisture, so rather than doing 1 cup:1 cup, I'd go 1 cup: scant 1 cup.

It does kind of depend on what you're baking. I use spelt in cookie, muffin and quick bread recipes at 1:1, I'm a little more careful with my yeasted bread and cake recipes. (But I also don't just use one flour in bread).
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I love almond flour/meal as a sub for wheat flour.  It doesn't have a "bitter" after taste like the other flours have.  I think it tastes closest to regular flour.  Sometimes I mix it with oat flour.
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I stickied this thread as there are always people wanting to know substitute flours for wheat. Me included.



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Can you substitute spelt flour in any bread recipe that calls for all purpose flour?  If yes, is the ratio the same?


This is what I do when I bake. So far, so good.


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I should have baked more with my grandma when I was a kid, she was a great baker.  I am awful!  I have made two loaves of spelt bread and they just don't rise very much.  What I have is two perfect loaves of pound bread!  The taste isn't bad, but it is very dense.

Ha ha, my husband likes it, but he will eat anything.  He toasted it and it wasn't to bad.  It is just not what I was looking for when baking a loaf of bread.

I am at it giving it a try again.  Hopefully, the third time is really a charm.


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Ha Ha, Frosty: "two perfect loaves of pound bread"

I remember we were looking to build a mud brick house 28yrs ago  and after my first attempt at home made bread at the time -  my DH very drily quipped "oh well here's our first brick for the house!!"  
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http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm?p=1
this easy bread recipe works everytime.......
all you need to do is substitute compliant meal or flour and perhaps add less eggs.


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Well my bread just isn't turning out at all.

I am going to try the recipe Lola suggests.  It doesn't look like it calls for yeast.  This may be a good thing for me, because so far yeast has not been rising for me.


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Frosty, are you adding anything to feed the yeast, like honey?
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