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Hi all!

I need suggestions for canned sardines. The kitchen is kosher and doesnt allow for any sort of non-veg cooking, hence the canned option.

What can be done to make it palatable, as the portion  recommendation for a Hunter is 4 times a week...?  

Thanks in advance!

AC




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I crushed a few sardines in olive oil and added chopped red onion, celery, and some tomato....added a dollop of paneer and combined the whole thing with salt and pepper.....topped a piece of flax bread with the mixture!  glad I used only half, cause tomorrow I ll do the same with the other half!! lol


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What is paneer and where do I get it?


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Paneer is soft unripened cheese curds. You can easily make it yourself. If you check the Cook Right forum there should be a thread about making your own cottage cheese, which is basically what paneer is--homemade cottage cheese. You might also check Recipe Central to see if the recipe is posted there.


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I just checked Recipe Central and there is a very simple recipe for Farmer's cheese that seems to work pretty much for anything. I am concerned about boiling the buttermilk in the orginal cartons so I sent a PM to Drea about pouring the milk into regular canning jars and putting the lids on. I will try this recipe if I can do that. They are doing so many weird things anymore to foods, cartons, etc., that I don't want to take any chances right now with anything transferring from the carton to my food until my stomach settles down a little more!   But it would be absolutely wonderful to be able to use this to make cheesecakes again after all these years!    I always LOVED to make them before the BTD brought that to a screeching halt!! Ahhhhh, nothing is better than a good cheesecake with fresh wild strawberries!!!!
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Something simple that I have done is to mix the sardines with cilantro, chopped onion, nutritional yeast and spices to taste (cayenne or curry come to mind). Use a little olive oil and or water for desired consistency when you mash/mix. Other options included chopped celery, walnuts or other 'tuna salad' ideas.
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Those are great recipe ideas!

I'm a basic food gal, so my favorite way to eat sardines is just to put them on top of a baked sweet potato (bake in the skin, then remove skin and mash with ghee).



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Thanks everyone for replying. I'll give it a try and report back. If there are any more suggestions please keep them coming in..


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Flaxseed bread, toasted, lots of ghee on the warm bread and a decent amount of compliant mustard - top with sardines and eat...


Eating it without bread...I prefer Haddon House canned sardines in lemon and WATER (not oil not lemon sauce, etc).  Very hard to find though and every time I special ordered i, the warehouse sent lemon sauce/oil kind.

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More happiness  http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?143

I could get the sauteed stuff done before hand to save time in the mornings..


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Are sardines an acquire taste or do you either just like them or not? I just can't bring myself to try them but my husband likes them. According to Rachel Ray, you can put them in a pasta sauce and they kind of melt and don't taste fishy but I don't know...

Also, any recommendations for a good brand of canned salmon?


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My 5 year old son has loved them since he was two!  Bones, skin and all.  He just cuts them into little pieces and eats them with a fork.  They're his favorite fish!

I like to put them on a spinach salad with lots of olive oil/lemon juice/salt/garlic dressing.


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Also, any recommendations for a good brand of canned salmon?


I would go with 'Clover Leaf'. In Canada its wild Pacific salmon and comes in a 'low sodium' version. ( ie no salt added)
Product of USA.






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I order my salmon directly from canneries on the Pacific coast (such as Chuck's Seafood), or directly from fisherfolk when the fishing is good.  It is more expensive than supermarket brands, but the quality is beyond comparison.



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Hi A.C.,
I like a Sicilian recipe ; stir fried fennel and a bit of onion, raisin  and pine nuts over your pasta or rice and you mix it with the canned sardines.  In Sicily they cook it with fresh sardines, but I guess you can use this way to put sardines over  this hot dish with good results. Use a little of the fennel greens chopped for extra flavour or crushed fennel seeds.
Hope you will enjoy !
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Hi all!

I need suggestions for canned sardines. The kitchen is kosher and doesnt allow for any sort of non-veg cooking, hence the canned option.

What can be done to make it palatable, as the portion  recommendation for a Hunter is 4 times a week...?  

Thanks in advance!

AC




Hi AC,

If you can find grape leaves, simply wrap them around the sardines, drizzle some olive oil and grill.

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I like sardines, but don't particularly like eating smoked foods.  I have found a brand that sells unsmoked canned sardines.  Connetable
and another sardine site:  CLICK



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Sadly, my source of cheap sardines has vanished like the early morning mist under a relentless sun.  

Wal-Mart had generic 4.25 oz spring-water packed no-salt for 50 cents, but they have stopped carrying them. Been meaning to load up on them, kept putting it off...  
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This is the brand I buy. Sardine in water. They have ones in mustard & tomato sauce...but I believe they contain corn starch.

http://www.beachcliff.info/beachcliff/usaenglish/product_mainpage.asp

I've followed many of the suggestions given here as well tweaked recipes provided on the link.

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I buy BumbleBee brand.  That is my favorite.  It is in water and vegetable broth.  What I do with mine is mix it in my rice pasta dishes.  
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I buy BumbleBee brand.  That is my favorite.  It is in water and vegetable broth.  What I do with mine is mix it in my rice pasta dishes.  


From the BumbleBee website (emphasis added):

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What are the ingredients in the vegetable broth in canned tuna?

The broth currently used is derived from two or more of the following vegetables: beans, peas, celery, green & red bell peppers, onions, parsley, garlic or carrots. The broth also generally contains a soy protein, which is why some of our products declare, "Contains soy."


For some that will be reason enough not to eat that product.
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thanks for looking it up!


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Quoted from Lloyd


From the BumbleBee website (emphasis added):



For some that will be reason enough not to eat that product.



I was concerned about the broth issue...my hubby is the hunter of the family, he likes the tuna for his tossed salads.  When I saw that there was vegetable broth I was concerned that it was soy.   Not good for hunter. Thank your for your post.
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..The kitchen is kosher and doesnt allow for any sort of non-veg cooking, hence the canned option...


No matter if Kashrut or not really...
But there is also dried Sardines in the asian markets {Makes good dog treats as well}.


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No matter if Kashrut or not really...
But there is also dried Sardines in the asian markets {Makes good dog treats as well}.


What do you mean by "No matter if Kashrut or not really..." ?

How does one eat dried sardines? Cooked or uncooked?



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you reconstitute them inside a sauce, or grind them into flour to make sardine patties, or add to a stock or whatever.


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My grandfathers girlfiend used to mash up the canned sardines, add a little white onion well chopped, S/P and then vinegar. She would serve it on Matzoh for appetizers...quite tasty!


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Hi AC!

I love sardines! I just bought a can from Cold Storage which contains only sardines, olive oil, salt and lemon. The brand is Bernardo Alfageme Miau. (Hold on. Miau? Have I bought cat food?! ) These go very well in a mixed salad with a sprinkling of black freshly ground pepper.

Golden Boy is the only other brand I've found so far which doesn't put xanthan gum in, just tomato, salt and some sugar which you as a secretor should be OK with. And I eat sometimes too . They do a chilli sauce version too.

I love them mashed on toasted Ezekiel or home-made soda bread, or in our toasted sandwich maker.

I've also mashed them with a can of tomatoes, some capsicum,  herbs and black pepper to make a bolognaise sause to eat with kamut spaghetti.

Pre-BTD I used to use canned anchovies and the oil as a salty flavouring for pan-fried food. I'm now wondering whether sardines and/or the oil (I hate waste) could be used in a similar way, or whether it would be too fishy. I may get back to you on that one!


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I crushed a few sardines in olive oil and added chopped red onion, celery, and some tomato....added a dollop of paneer and combined the whole thing with salt and pepper.....topped a piece of flax bread with the mixture!  glad I used only half, cause tomorrow I ll do the same with the other half!! lol


Is paneer neutral or beneficial for O?

While I'm at it, how about Astragalus?

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Paneer is Avoid for type O.


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Paneer is Avoid for type O.


Just out of curiosity, do you know if people here routinely eat avoids?

I quit all dairy 2 weeks ago when I became ER compliant again. I've been spitting up a fair amount of mucus, which I presume will stop soon. I can breathe better too. I didn't realize it but eating dairy was clogging me up for sure. I'm quite certain I'm now through eating dairy.
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paneer is a diamond food for gatherers......
love it!

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astragalus is advised in many protocols....check them out!


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paneer is a diamond food for gatherers......
love it!

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/9.html
astragalus is advised in many protocols....check them out!


Oh, I see.

I took the test to see if I should look into GTD and found out I ought to stick with the BTD. I wondered what was up with an o Non eating dairy.

Thanks again for the link!

I had a very thorough colonic last week and have felt tired and my hands and feet seem to get cold. I think it washed away part of my immune system or something, or minerals.
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I quit all dairy 2 weeks ago when I became ER compliant again. I've been spitting up a fair amount of mucus, which I presume will stop soon. I can breathe better too. I didn't realize it but eating dairy was clogging me up for sure. I'm quite certain I'm now through eating dairy.

Hi Joe,

It was well-known in the music and singing community that dairy can cause mucus congestion, long before the BTD. Many singers will routinely drink their tea and coffee black before a performance for exactly that reason. It took Dr D to work out why!

Glad you're feeling better!


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Hi AC!

I love sardines! I just bought a can from Cold Storage which contains only sardines, olive oil, salt and lemon. The brand is Bernardo Alfageme Miau. (Hold on. Miau? Have I bought cat food?! ) These go very well in a mixed salad with a sprinkling of black freshly ground pepper.

Golden Boy is the only other brand I've found so far which doesn't put xanthan gum in, just tomato, salt and some sugar which you as a secretor should be OK with. And I eat sometimes too . They do a chilli sauce version too.

I love them mashed on toasted Ezekiel or home-made soda bread, or in our toasted sandwich maker.

I've also mashed them with a can of tomatoes, some capsicum,  herbs and black pepper to make a bolognaise sause to eat with kamut spaghetti.

Pre-BTD I used to use canned anchovies and the oil as a salty flavouring for pan-fried food. I'm now wondering whether sardines and/or the oil (I hate waste) could be used in a similar way, or whether it would be too fishy. I may get back to you on that one!


Hello Squirrel, thanks for the recommendation Yes, I found Miau in Coldstorage quite by accident. It certainly doesnt make gag like the previous brand Beach Cliff  , also available in ColdStorage.

I mix and match my spices so it has been palatable so far.

Thanks all for your replies!



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Hi AC - glad you found the cat food  

I found another way of cooking sardines (can you cook them in your kitchen?). I mashed an avocado up with the sardines-in-chilli-sauce, added some seasoning and spread it on top of a couple of slices of Ezekiel toast, a few minutes under the grill and it came out all toasted and crunchy on the top. It sort of diluted the fishy flavour, made it go further and added protein.  


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Hi Joe,

It was well-known in the music and singing community that dairy can cause mucus congestion, long before the BTD. Many singers will routinely drink their tea and coffee black before a performance for exactly that reason. It took Dr D to work out why!

Glad you're feeling better!


Hi there,

Thanks for your reply.

I didn't think I was doing too bad with mucus while I was eating raw milk cheeses, whole milk home made yogurt, etc., but when I became BTD compliant again I started to spit/cough up mucus more, so it seems my body is trying to remove it and will eventually do so.

I do oil pulling every morning still, which helps remove mucus.

If you or anyone is interested, here's some info on OP :

http://oilpulling.com

http://selfhelpcure.com

It's a very nice therapy that I began on 3/4/07, but in no way can it replace BTD! It can, IMHO, be used alongside of BTD.

I think they sometimes over emphasize the benefits/capabilities of some therapies like OP.



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On the canned salmon... we buy cans of Boneless/Skinless Wild Alaskan Sockeye Salmon from Costco.  Delicious.

As far as Sardines.. I buy the ones in Olive oil and mash two cans with 2 tbl rice flour, 2 eggs, dried minced onions, kelp sprinkles, about 1 tbl lemon juice.   Then I fry it all up in a dry pan - just one big patty and when it's brown on both sides.. I take it out and cut it into 4 pieces like a pie.  It's thin and so good.  I'm hooked!  Just flat out delicious!

It's so rich you only need 1 piece.

You could also mix 1 can tuna or salmon with 1 can sardines to use in the above recipe or even in a fish salad mixture.

Enjoy!
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(can you cook them in your kitchen?).


I'm afraid no   ! I need to be creative that way. But your toast sounds really delicious, slurpppppp...

Funky, interesting..


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