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Lisalea
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Has anybody ever eaten spatzels ??

In my humble opinion; they r incredibly delicious especially with butter and parmesan cheese !!!
I haven't made them since I've started on BTD; I used to make them with white flour (original recepe) ...

My second question is this:
Has anybody made them with B- blood type flour such as spelt, oat ?? ...  etc ... and how did they turn out ??

Also; what would be one serving when it comes to the flour ?
The recepe calls for 1 cup (per person); however this seems like A LOT   ... especially since NOW, I'm on a good roll and following BTD the best I can

Here is the recepe:

Spatzels: For each person at the meal; use 1 cup flour, 1 egg, 1/2 tsp. salt.

- Add water to mixture to create a very thick batter that will break with a spoon.
- Drop small amounts of batter (spoon size) into boiling salted water.
- Boil gently for 5-8 minutes.
- Drain and toss with butter so they won't stick together.
Yummi !!!


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I have never eaten this food item.

You can make them compliant by utilizing any beneficial or neutral flour, flavorings/spices, and cheese options.

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he-he-he this is called *Spätzle* and this is a typical teutonic,suebe speciality; and you can make em with all kinds of flours,
try em once made with loads of oinions and then some cheese above and then into the oven...very yummie
there are so called *Chäässpätzle* or Ziewelespätzle only ok for A sechi's when taking wheatflour


p.s. it's easy to make them my oneself....and better so no chemicals in

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Lisalea- I've always used an extra step when cooking, while spatzles are cooking I would peel and slice a large onion wound brown in iron frying pan with butter (probably would use olive oil now) and would add spaetzles cooking until slightly browned, also, and of course add seasonings of choice.  I've never tried it with cheese, that also sounds good.  I would say 1/4-1/2c would be a servings, when there finished cooking completely.  I don't remember how much 1 cup of flour makes, it's been years.  Sounds like a big portion and many calories to me.  I believe there is over 800 calories in 1 cup of flour
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I have never eaten this food item.

You can make them compliant by utilizing any beneficial or neutral flour, flavorings/spices, and cheese options.

Alia






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he-he-he this is called *Spätzle* and this is a typical teutonic,suebe speciality; and you can make em with all kinds of flours,
try em once made with loads of oinions and then some cheese above and then into the oven...very yummie
there are so called *Chäässpätzle* or Ziewelespätzle only ok for A sechi's when taking wheatflour  


Hi,
U mean to boil them first and then put them in the oven


Quoted from ISA-MANUELA
p.s. it's easy to make them my oneself....and better so no chemicals in


YES, I totally agree with u and I look forward to making *Spätzle*


Thank-u  Tomatilla I


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Lisalea- I've always used an extra step when cooking, while spatzles are cooking I would peel and slice a large onion wound brown in iron frying pan with butter (probably would use olive oil now) and would add spaetzles cooking until slightly browned, also, and of course add seasonings of choice.  


That sounds really delicious as well, I can't wait to experiment with a my home made spatzles   !!


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 I don't remember how much 1 cup of flour makes, it's been years.  Sounds like a big portion and many calories to me.  I believe there is over 800 calories in 1 cup of flour alone.

My thoughts exactly, I will make 1/2 cup at the most or I'll probably end up eating too much knowing myself  


Thanks for sharing that recipe


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The recipe should work with the same amount of spelt flour as you would have used with wheat flour.  
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I have a recipe that calls for just over a pound (500gr) of flour to feed four!  Whatever that makes in cups...

This is based on white flour so you could use less if you use less refined flour which is more filling.  I works fine with spelt and kamut.

As a nice lightening touch you could use sparkling water instead of still water for the batter.  

I think Isa means after boiling - at least that's how I have always made Käsespätzle...I boil my Spätzle, drain and layer with cheese and sauteed onion...stick in the oven for a few minutes to allow cheese to melt and serve with a salad.
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I mostly make mine homemade with regular white flour and eggs. I haven't tried them yet with other flours. I also have bagged in the pantry.

The kids love them with butter and parmesan too.
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you might do em by yourselve, if not, yes at first cook em in hot - salty water and then do the oventhingy


but listen, something very fine also is to eat em sweet

go for the cookings, fry some not too sour apples, add onions, some seasalt; and in the same pan you will fry your calfliver ....that tastes very good

or just cook the Spätzle (speaken shbätzle) and then fry em with apples, dried raisins and onions, even here you might cover with some cheese  


-welcome.... Lisalea

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Spätzle is not a 'typical' Saxon or Berliner dish - I believe its more Bayerische oder Schwäbische?...

A traditional Russian Borscht will call for something similar made with Kascha {Buckwheat, Buchweizen} - sort of a Spätzle/Dampfknödel hybrid. Though still not B-Friendly.

Millet will work fine.
As I always say this is where using your own grain mill shines above the stale store-bought alternative "Flours".


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schluggell, ya right it is a speciality from the Suebe /Schwaben)

nothing similar with kneidlach out of Russia
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Could the more North American word for this be 'dumplings"?

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I have a recipe that calls for just over a pound (500gr) of flour to feed four!  Whatever that makes in cups...

This is based on white flour so you could use less if you use less refined flour which is more filling.  I works fine with spelt and kamut.

As a nice lightening touch you could use sparkling water instead of still water for the batter.  

I think Isa means after boiling - at least that's how I have always made Käsespätzle...I boil my Spätzle, drain and layer with cheese and sauteed onion...stick in the oven for a few minutes to allow cheese to melt and serve with a salad.


U made me very hungry

Thanks for ur input, I will try it



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Could the more North American word for this be 'dumplings"?

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YEP, I think so !!  


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Millet will work fine.
As I always say this is where using your own grain mill shines above the stale store-bought alternative "Flours".



Excellent idea, TY !!


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but listen, something very fine also is to eat em sweet


Oh yes, I also thought about that !!
As a breakfast with apples, honey and raisins

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and in the same pan you will fry your calfliver ....that tastes very good



Spatzels remind me of gnocchis somewhat and at times I have eaten them with lots of oregano, cauliflower and olive oil and it is INDEED delicious !!

Thank-u again  


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I have a recipe that calls for just over a pound (500gr) of flour to feed four!  Whatever that makes in cups...

This is based on white flour so you could use less if you use less refined flour which is more filling.  I works fine with spelt and kamut.

As a nice lightening touch you could use sparkling water instead of still water for the batter.  

I think Isa means after boiling - at least that's how I have always made Käsespätzle...I boil my Spätzle, drain and layer with cheese and sauteed onion...stick in the oven for a few minutes to allow cheese to melt and serve with a salad.


Hi,
That would mean two cups; half cup per person which sounds about right
Thank-u  


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Debra, your dumplings are they just humans orrrrr   real Knödels......no that arent' Knödels at all this are noodles .....similar looking to white or yellowish worms .....
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That would mean two cups; half cup per person which sounds about right


I believe on many flour packages, the serving size per serving size is usually 1/4 cup of dry flour.

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Thank you Lisalea regarding the classification of spatzels as comparable to American dumplings.

A 'dumpling' was the type of image I had conjured in my mind when I inititially read your post.

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Debra, your dumplings are they just humans orrrrr   real Knödels......no that arent' Knödels at all this are noodles .....similar looking to white or yellowish worms .....


 You mean that good ol' pasta...

Actually, that is not what I meant...my mom used to make the dough forming things(dumplings) you are all talking about above.  They used to go on top of a beef/chicken stew.  They had very basic ingredients like those above.  When I was a wee tot she had made a batch and they all stuck together and I had the delightful honour of playing in it for supper.  Have a picture somewhere.  

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P.S. Alia Vo...sorry just saw your post.  Did not see it before I wrote mine.



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Thank you Lisalea regarding the classification of spatzels as comparable to American dumplings.

A 'dumpling' was the type of image I had conjured in my mind when I inititially read your post.

Alia


U r very astute Alia and u're very welcome


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I believe on many flour packages, the serving size per serving size is usually 1/4 cup of dry flour.

Alia




that doesn't sound like much !!

Perhaps u're right though ... since I don't buy flour that often and according to Bloodtype; 1/4 cup sounds probably right since the servings r smaller I beleive ... I will have to look into it further.

TY for ur input  


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I feel like making a batch of spatzels and then freezing them; this way I'll have them handy  
Has anybody tried this and did they keep well ??
Thanks !!  


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You can buy them frozen, so I image it would work fine in a sealed bag of container!
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You can buy them frozen, so I image it would work fine in a sealed bag of container!


The thing is that when u buy them frozen (btw; I've never seen any where I do my groceries ...) who knows how much stuff they add to it in order to preserve freshness; color; taste ... etc ...
Thanks  


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You can freeze them - my nan did and they were nice when defrosted.  

As for the amount of flour to use - the recipe I referred to was for spätzle as main dish rather than side.  Personally I cannot see that half a pound of flour would make enough spätzle to feed four as a main dish.  On the other hand it could just be that my nan's portions were generous

Her spätzle were quite small  - the size of small prawns maybe.  You can get a kitchen tool in Germany that you can push the batter through to get that shape...but I am sure they would be nice whatever shape as long as they are not too big.  
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Those r two great ideas ladies, Thanks very much !!  


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You are planning on cooking first and season , so I feel they would freeze just fine.  In a raw state, I would store covered in the frig until you are going to cook them.

As far as shape gone I just used two spoons (dip in the boiling water fill teaspoon half up and than slide it off into the water. dip your spoon and go on to the next one.
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You are planning on cooking first and season , so I feel they would freeze just fine.

Thanks geminisue  


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This thread should be made illegal for O nonnies to read...

I swear my last meal on earth will be Spatzle with Hunter Sauce...until then I will dream of my favorite breakfast with my Nana, leftover Spatzle, panfried in butter, served with soft boiled eggs and wurst.


I have a German/Schwabish  cookbook that does say spelt is a superior grain and can be used in all noodle dishes.  

If there is a European store in your area, you can find a Spatzle maker that is a metal instrument that fits over a pot.  You drop the dough into the holder and  move it over the grate.  The Spatle's drop into the pot perfectly formed!!!
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This thread should be made illegal for O nonnies to read...

I swear my last meal on earth will be Spatzle with Hunter Sauce...until then I will dream of my favorite breakfast with my Nana, leftover Spatzle, panfried in butter, served with soft boiled eggs and wurst.


I have a German/Schwabish  cookbook that does say spelt is a superior grain and can be used in all noodle dishes.  

If there is a European store in your area, you can find a Spatzle maker that is a metal instrument that fits over a pot.  You drop the dough into the holder and  move it over the grate.  The Spatle's drop into the pot perfectly formed!!!




How perfect !!  
however; the imperfect spatzel is delicious as well    

I'm so sorry that as an  O nonnie u can't have them !!


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If you freeze your spatzels, you may want to set them aside on a stainless steel tray separated by unwaxed parchment paper before freezing them, so they do not stick together once you put them in the freezer.

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If you freeze your spatzels, you may want to set them aside on a stainless steel tray separated by unwaxed parchment paper before freezing them, so they do not stick together once you put them in the freezer.

Alia


Excellent tip Alia , Thanks a bunch !!


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Does anyone use a spatzle maker? I usually cut mine with a knife but I want a spatzle maker now, which one works best?

They sell two types here.....
http://www.fantes.com/spaetzle_makers.htm
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I tried making them once long ago, by pushing the batter through large holes of a colander.  It would be nice to try again...millet flour would work?  


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Oh, here's a rice flour recipe I just found:

http://www.cookingwithnana.com/recipe_gluten_free_rice.htm

I'm thinking millet flour or amaranth flour would work in place of the brown rice flour, but I'd keep the sweet rice flour in there as it seems to be a good binder.  (I use sweet rice and amaranth flour for some amazing dumplings, there's a recipe in my blog for those looking for dumplings)

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/4/archives/00000210.htm


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All of your posts got me in the mood to make spatzle.  I was going to use the recipe that was posted.  Then I remembered that I had a "noodle making device" stuck away in a drawer.  It's called "Twist-a-Noodle" and it has 7 disks:  spatzle, spaghetti, standard, ribbon, angel hair, star pasta, and gnocchi/dumpling.

There was even a recipe:  Basic Dough for 2 servings:  3/4 cup all-purpose flour, 2 large eggs (do not use Extra Large), 2 tablespoons Olive Oil, pinch salt (optional).  Add all ingredients to a mixing bowl and mix at medium-high speed for one minute.  The dough should be semi-smooth.  The consistency should be thick and sticky.

There are more directions, but they mention you can use any flour of choice, you can eliminate eggs if you want to, just add water.  (I suppose you could also use egg whites).  They also give instructions for adding other ingredits to the dough, such as tomato paste, chopped spinach, cheeses, or carrot juice.  They mention adding a little water if the dough is too thick or a little flour if it is too thin.

The noodles are to be cooked til they float to the top - can be cooked longer if you want them softer.

I bought this in a kitchen shop as a close-out for about $5-10.  I may have used it once, but it's just been sitting in a drawer.

I listened to all your ideas and decided to brown onions with a few beef strips and broccoli and add the spatzle.  I also tried some with melted butter and feta cheese.  I used white spelt flour, and they came out like a fresh cooked noodle.  

Thanks for the ideas.
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Oh, here's a rice flour recipe I just found:

(I use sweet rice and amaranth flour for some amazing dumplings, there's a recipe in my blog for those looking for dumplings)

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/4/archives/00000210.htm


Thanks for the recipes - I'll try them some time.
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great ideas and recipes all!!


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I made some tonight using a combo of rice, oat & barley flour and it came out good.
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Does anyone use a spatzle maker? I usually cut mine with a knife but I want a spatzle maker now, which one works best?

They sell two types here.....
http://www.fantes.com/spaetzle_makers.htm


The second picture looks just like the one my nan had and used for 50 odd years.  For anybody looking to buy one I have feeling that might be easier to clean, too.  The hot steam of the water cooks some of the batter stuck to the maker and I would hate to try and get under the rotor blades of the first to clean it...although it may come apart

I was given   this one as a gift some years ago - I wouln't have spent that much myself - but it works beautifully and is very yeasy to clean as there are no corners to try and get into...

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thanx Melissa, I am going to try this, I prefere rice flour,
so after you aren't that tired
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I made some tonight using a combo of rice, oat & barley flour and it came out good.


I was wondering about mixing barley and millet together for the spatzles; since barley cooks in about hour versus millet 25 minutes

Did u grind the millet and barley grains themselves or did u purchase the flour ? Thanks  


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koahiatamadl, Thats a nice speatzle make you have. Thanks for the input.

Lisalea, We bought barley flour by bobsredmill. Theres no where on this island I don't think that we're ever going to find the whole grains. Everyone here is too busy getting diabetes off coconut milk to stock anywhere with a grain other than white rice.
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koahiatamadl, Thats a nice speatzle make you have. Thanks for the input.

Lisalea, We bought barley flour by bobsredmill. Theres no where on this island I don't think that we're ever going to find the whole grains. Everyone here is too busy getting diabetes off coconut milk to stock anywhere with a grain other than white rice.





Glad u found the barley flour at least !!


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Does anyone use a spatzle maker? I usually cut mine with a knife but I want a spatzle maker now, which one works best?

They sell two types here.....
http://www.fantes.com/spaetzle_makers.htm


I have a spatzle maker, it is very fun to use, I have a pasta machine too, that is fun as well



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I have a spatzle maker, it is very fun to use, I have a pasta machine too, that is fun as well


Wow, u're all equipped for a fun night of cooking !!


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oh yeah baby! actually it is my mom I just go visit and play with her stuff she also has a pazelle maker as well, a few waffle makers (regular, heart shaped, belgeim), food processors, hmmmmm what eles pretty much any kitchen appliance you could want



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MMMMM you all are making me hungry.
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I wonder if the pazelle maker would make good gluten free waffle cones... gf ice cream cones are so expensive! (and noncompliant to boot)


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I'm sure it would



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Melissa--you could try making waffle cones by using a really thin compliant batter in a very hot waffle iron. Bake the waffle until it's starting to stiffen up in the iron but is still pliable. Take it out and form it into a cone shape while it's still warm. I'd bet anything it will crisp up as it cools. Some experimentation might get you a really good cone

I've made spatzels by the same method Melissa used, by pushing the dough through colander holes. Delicious! Fried up with onions and butter, they taste just like pierogis to me You could use any non-gluten flour to make them.

Now you've got me hungry for them! *chuckle*


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Quoted from Brighid45

I've made spatzels by the same method Melissa used, by pushing the dough through colander holes.  



The colander method does not work for me. I've had bad results with this method in the past and so again this weekend I attempted it again when I made them and they came out horrible, I have to stop and go back to making the dough stiffer so I can slice them. I hope I have better results with a spaetzle maker.
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Melissa--you could try making waffle cones by using a really thin compliant batter in a very hot waffle iron. Bake the waffle until it's starting to stiffen up in the iron but is still pliable. Take it out and form it into a cone shape while it's still warm. I'd bet anything it will crisp up as it cools. Some experimentation might get you a really good cone

I've made spatzels by the same method Melissa used, by pushing the dough through colander holes. Delicious! Fried up with onions and butter, they taste just like pierogis to me You could use any non-gluten flour to make them.

Now you've got me hungry for them! *chuckle*


 
U just made my mouth water and it's bedtime

That dish sounds heavenly !!!


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