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Rodney
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Hello,
I am looking forward to this thanksgiving, what fun get a day off work to cook, eat and enjoy family. Now that I have this new tool BTD to work with I am both excited and confused, when I reach for something to cook with and find it is on my AVIOD list.
Sure like Cinnamon and allspice to add to recipes and add to drinks any suggestions for a substitute? Ginger comes to mind but what else
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For drinks a dash of peppermint flavor is nice.  Nutmeg is used for eggnog.  For recipes, I use a combination of various spices such as clove, nutmeg, or ginger.  Whole clove can be used to flavor drinks.

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Thanks Victoria I should have known that just need to look at the list closer
I think it strange how some are good an some on the avoid when it seems they are alike?
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What part of the world did they originate from?  Are they really alike?  
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Cardamon, fresh vanilla bean, and cloves will add exotic and flavorful accents to your food/beverages.

I adore dried ginger added to my foods; it is a culinary and medicinal peppery spice flavoring.  

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What part of the world did they originate from?  Are they really alike?  


Proabably not but they are on the same shelf in the grocery store
just kidding ya know!
your right it's going to take me some time to figure this all out.  
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Cardamon, fresh vanilla bean, and cloves will add exotic and flavorful accents to your food/beverages.

I adore dried ginger added to my foods; it is a culinary and medicinal peppery spice flavoring.  

Alia


I  will have to find some of that Cardamon stuff should get some fresh cloves and I should have lots of stuff to use. now my next mission it to find a non wheat stuffing, somethng with rice I would guess. and I was really getting good at making my stuffing darn it. I can still use some of the same ingredents jsut no wheat stuff.
thanks all for the help

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The only real avoid is Allspice - the rest are Neutrals. Licorice Root is a good choice for some things.
Curiously Curry Powder and Turmeric are Superbeneficials and the ingredients for the Curry Powder by themselves are neutrals...so for the Xmassy flavour try a Swedish or Swiss Curry blend as these tend to be a 'sweeter' flavour than others, or even a 'Mild' S&K Curry mix from a Japanese Store...

Fresh Turmeric Root {similar to an orange Ginger Root} has a unique flavour all its own - contrary to the Yellow Pigment sold as "Turmeric Powder".

There are different types of Cardamon - for the best flavour try the smaller Green pods. Yes its a pain to get all the the flavourful seeds out but the flavour is amazing.


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The only real avoid is Allspice - the rest are Neutrals. Licorice Root is a good choice for some things.
Curiously Curry Powder and Turmeric are Superbeneficials and the ingredients for the Curry Powder by themselves are neutrals...so for the Xmassy flavour try a Swedish or Swiss Curry blend as these tend to be a 'sweeter' flavour than others, or even a 'Mild' S&K Curry mix from a Japanese Store...

Fresh Turmeric Root {similar to an orange Ginger Root} has a unique flavour all its own - contrary to the Yellow Pigment sold as "Turmeric Powder".

There are different types of Cardamon - for the best flavour try the smaller Green pods. Yes its a pain to get all the the flavourful seeds out but the flavour is amazing.



Thanks for the ideas Schluggell.
duno if we are looking at the same blood type and list? on my b type list Allspice and cinnamon are both on the Aviod part and Turmeric is netutral?
was going to check out the Cardamon as its neutral.

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...on my b type list Allspice and cinnamon are both on the Aviod part and Turmeric is netutral?was going to check out the Cardamon as its neutral.


Yep, you're right - going thru the whole list I missed the Cinnamon....always sumthin.

Note the colours used above. Neutrals aren't necessarily bad when used in moderation on the infrequent occassion particularly in this case as its generally a few teaspoons for a special season..


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as for true substitutes there is Cassia leaf and real Cinnamon which are different from the American Cinnamon. But as these are untested would be Neutral. For a Beneficial Xmas spice...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassia

Even Balm of Gilead {Tilia sp., Linden, Basswood Flower Buds} would give a good note to Xmas flavour.


Siberian Ginseng, Anise, Ginger Root Turmeric and Fennel are used for B-Type Health Protocols...and could all be variously used


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Anise seed is also delicious!  It is okay for all except ABs
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To be honest the only one I REALLY pay attention to is Allspice- It makes my body go
- the cinnamon is hard to avoid and I really like it with apples and christmas cakes  
Like Schlüggel says real cinnamon is somthing all together different so it would be nice to have that tested- my body finds it ok.


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