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C_Sharp
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Can Fingerprints Predict Gluten Sensitivity?

Dr. D'Adamo writes in the Personalized living Webzine:

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Although almost everyone knows that fingerprint ridge patterns remain constant and unchanging throughout life (which is why they are so useful to law enforcement) even professionals involved in dermatoglyphics research are often unaware of the changeable nature of the actual height of the ridges themselves. There are a series of surprising correlations between changes to the height of the ridge pattern and links to gluten intolerance found in diseases such as celiac and to certain sensitivities to proteins in the diet called lectins.


More at: http://northamericanpharmacal.com/living/2013/09/can-fingerprints-predict-gluten-sensitivity/


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My youngest had lots of visible horizontal lines in her fingerprints to the naked eye nearly 2 years ago right after she was adopted. We couldn't get good fingerprints as she didn't have the dexterity or coordination to roll her fingers properly for fingerprinting.

The article sparked an interest and I looked again at her fingerprints and white lines did not appear to be noticeable, but perhaps could still be there in spite a fairly strict type O diet for her the last couple years.

We have been advised by a geneticist to get her celiac tested as she is required to have blood work for post-placement adoption paperwork anyway. Her stature is still quite small (though she has been growing slowly) and it is suspect that celiac could be interfering with her absorption of nutrients. It has also been noted that she gets constipated super easily anytime she ingests wheat or oats. I know it is necessary that consumption of small quantities of gluten are necessary to obtain a positive test if indeed celiac exists, but I"m unsure just how much or how often to give it to her leading up to this blood test in the near future. I have been giving her a little rye bread occasionally and she sometimes gets very small wheat snacks in Sunday School.

Anyone know the approximate frequency or quantity of gluten consumption required before the celiac test?


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Research has shown that three-week-long gluten challenges involving the equivalent of one to three slices of bread a day are not enough to generate antibodies and intestinal damage in known celiacs who have been following the gluten-free diet.

Many physicians recommend a six- to eight-week gluten challenge, in which you'll need to eat two slices of gluten-filled bread each day. But there's no real research showing that's enough, either.


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Somehow I wonder now if it is worth it to test her for celiac given the information you quoted. It's clear she does very well with a nearly gluten free diet and I've also just made an order of deflect and polyflora O for my husband which could be given to my dd in smaller quantities to further heal her gut. This will also have a positive effect on her thyroid function which is also in question due to her small size.

Sometimes people are so gung-ho on testing for conditions which are difficult to diagnose that they overlook the simply obvious; if a food is consistently disagreeable to someone, then avoid it whenever possible.


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I agree with adopted4.  In general, I don't bother testing for something unless there is a treatment for it that requires a positive test result before insurance will provide coverage.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from Adopted4

Sometimes people are so gung-ho on testing for conditions which are difficult to diagnose that they overlook the simply obvious; if a food is consistently disagreeable to someone, then avoid it whenever possible.


I agree.  Why throw a gluten intolerant person into suffering just so you can decide that they should avoid a food that you already know makes them feel bad?  



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I know, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?  I would not submit myself or a child of mine to the testing for gluten intolerance, as it involves ingesting tons of WHEAT, basically, for weeks on end.  Nightmare ALERT.     Instead, if you suspect your child is gluten-intolerant and/or has actual celiac disease, I would try REMOVING gluten from her or his diet for a while (like a month, though it probably won't take that long to see if this helps the person's symptoms) to see if it helps.  In the case of gluten intolerance and/or issues surrounding wheat (which can also be due to the wheat LECTIN, as we in this community understand far better than most folks who don't know what we know, thanks to Dr. D's work), I feel it is better to figure it out by HELPING the person instead of by a process of "here, let's see if this kills ya!"

Just personally for me, like I said, if it were me or my child, it wouldn't be worth it to put the kid through that for a definitive diagnosis, if by instead REMOVING the possible offenders and seeing if it HELPS, you can figure it out through a process of elimination.

It seems to me that, in 2013, there should be a less barbaric way to test someone for celiac and/or gluten intolerance than forcing them to eat same for six weeks or whatever it is.  Jeepers, creepers, that really horrifies me and my peepers:  


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Certain forms of celiac can be determined with genetic tests. These work regardless of if you have eaten gluten or not.

These are not as common but if you press the doctor you can probably get these done.

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The following diagnostic codes are helpful when requesting insurance coverage: 579.0 (Celiac disease); V18.59 (family history of GI disease); and/or V84.89 (genetic susceptibility to disease).


http://www.celiac.com/articles/21567/1/Ten-Facts-About-Celiac-Disease-Genetic-Testing/Page1.html


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^ GREAT post, C!  *thumbs up*  


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Thank you for the link C-Sharp about genetic testing. It'll be interesting to find out if the geneticist we met with about our daughters long term care is familiar with these specific tests. Perhaps in the future when our daughter is more in charge of making her own decisions about her diet it will be helpful to have those facts. But for now it doesn't seem urgent to have these tests done and could also be quite expensive.


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