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Mandiwv
Tuesday, November 17, 2015, 1:50am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My husband an O+sec just completed the genotype test. In the Adv test he scored as a Gatherer.  In the strength test he had a ZERO for gatherer and the highest was a teacher. How can this be? So what is he?
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use only the advanced calculator when knowing your bloodtype, pls


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Mandiwv
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The Gatherer sounds nothing at all like my husband.
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Patty H
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He can't be a teacher if he is a type O.  O's can only be Hunter, Gatherer or Explorer.  Any blood type can be explorer but Hunters and Gatherers are specific to Type O.  Hope this helps.

Why do you say he does not fit Gatherer?
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Mandiwv
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My husband is short 5'3", very petite, small guy. Weighs only 115lbs. He has a fast metabolism.  Also like I stated before he scored a zero for gatherer on the strength test. Just doesn't seem like a good match to me.
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Patty H
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Then I recommend going back and using only the advanced calculator.  Maybe he is a Hunter.  The things to focus on are his finger lengths - index finger vs ring finger.  Go to page 289 - 297.  Knowing his secretor status and whether his index or ring finger is longer will give you his GenoType.  If his index fingers are longer than his ring finger, he is a Gatherer, even if he is "small" as you describe him.

Again, he can only be a Hunter, Gatherer or Explorer.

The SWAMI software offers more advanced genotyping, so maybe that is something you might want to consider if you are still concerned.

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Lola
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Gatherer did not necessarily mean that you were overweight, since although it is easy to
conceive of the Gatherer as 'gathering' calories,  it's the other stuff (like amyloid in the
brain, or immune complexes in the pancreas) that you also want to not 'gather.


Mandiwv, believe Dr D

my hubby is tall, slim yet also turned out an O type gatherer

this is a swami pro I ran for him......yet more targeted than the book alone


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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If he seems to be such a poor fit for any of the GenoTypes, he may do better on the Blood Type Diet rather than the GenoType Diet, at least until/unless you're able to get a SWAMI for him.


Ruth, Single Mother to 22 yo  O- Leah , 20 yo O- Hannah, and  15 yo B+ Jack


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Patty, his ring finger and index fingers are the same length.
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Quoted from Lola
use only the advanced calculator when knowing your bloodtype, pls
...esp. if you know your secretor type. No "strength-testing" required for GTD typing. Simple chart at the back of the book. Takes 2 minutes to look up.



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Mrs T O+
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I don't seem to fix precisely in any of the categories, but the SWAMI put me as an explorer. I can't tolerate caffeine & a few other things I can't remember.  If I didn't take the SWAMI, I would think I was one of the others.
My husband is an AB & I'm guessing warrior, even tho he is short also.


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Lloyd
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Quoted from Mandiwv
Patty, his ring finger and index fingers are the same length.


The default for that is to treat the index as longer. It is an area that is a bit grey and probability favors the book treatment. SWAMI is more subtle and might decide Explorer or Hunter based on other input, but the book has a Y/N view on finger length.

Triple-check the finger length using the video instructions available online.

Another option is to try the Gatherer diet for a while and see what happens. Can always change up later, especially if you do get a SWAMI.

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Regarding the finger length, you can also try to mark them on a piece of paper.  Measure them palm up and palm down, to get the three different readings.  Make sure his fingernails are clipped short.

Good luck!  Let us know if these things clarify anything for you.
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By marking the finger prints on paper, we found the index is slightly longer, which doesn't change anything.  That is what was chosen earlier.  My save some money for the Swami  and in the mean time follow the BTD.  We know that works.
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...sooo go for it ...  


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yvonneb
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Quoted from Mandiwv
By marking the finger prints on paper, we found the index is slightly longer, which doesn't change anything.  That is what was chosen earlier.  My save some money for the Swami  and in the mean time follow the BTD.  We know that works.


Measuring fingers is hard. I fared well by photocopying mine and using a proper square to measure.

Now, just to make it all complicated again (sorry) when I then got SWAMI, finger length made zero difference- I even tried three different distinct measurements (ring longer/ index longer/ both the same) in the SWAMI calculator to see...zero difference. Either which  way I am hunting  
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SquarePeg
Tuesday, November 17, 2015, 9:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI GT4 Explorer 44%; Rh-; iNfP; nonnie?
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Just wondering whether the husband's blood type is 100% certain.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Mandiwv, believe Dr D

Well, muñeca, I heard you and am d'accord, anyway.


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Victoria
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I measured and remeasured countless times before I felt sure (confident) of what to put into my SWAMI.  Finally, I measured my fingers on the palm side and it was easy and obvious!  Between the fingers was always frustrating for me.



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Patty H
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Quoted from Mandiwv
By marking the finger prints on paper, we found the index is slightly longer, which doesn't change anything.  That is what was chosen earlier.  My save some money for the Swami  and in the mean time follow the BTD.  We know that works.


Good for you!  Now you have a plan.  The Gatherer diet is not terribly different than the Hunter diet, so if in the future you decide to go for SWAMI, you will have a head start with the BTD.
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san j
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BTW, Medical imaging software will allow you to measure bone length, if you have Xrays/CTs, MRIs -- even ultrasound...seeing as measuring requires so much repeat-effort. Using the Caliper function, you simply drag the cursor between epiphyses; the length, down to the nearest micron, will appear beside the resulting line on the image.


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Mandiwv
Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 2:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes, he a definite O blood type. I'm still waiting for the book. Any day now. The directions for measuring upper leg seemed a little confusing to us.  Should the tape measure go directly in the creaseof leg hip joint or on top of the hip bone? That's the only measurement that I questioned my self on.
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I had nothing but a misfit mess when trying to use the Genotype book itself.  That is why I decided to spend the extra money for the SWAMI Xpress.  So very happy I did that.  I have a food plan that fits me even though all the physical description details don't.  

With SWAMI the categories do not have to match anything in the books because it is tailored for you.  My percent of "explorer" that is me was less than 50%......but there is more of me that is explorer than any other category, and, again, my food plan FITS ME.  I also have a friend who was well trained in the proper way to do all the measurements and that helps, but with the SWAMI Xpress kit you get very detailed and easy to follow instructions with illustrations to help you do it the right way.  

I also did well on the original blood type diet for Type A non secretors for several years.  The big key there was the secretor status.  It made an enormous difference.  


6 years on ER BTD, went from sick and dying to healthier And 30 pounds slimmer.  THEN:  
Dec 2013: Started Swami Xpress - I'm 48% Explorer with hybridized Explorer/BTD list. A new adventure for this old lady!  -- LOST 5 more pounds on SWAMI! 
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I like the palms up method best

watch the video

https://www.youtube.com/v/x3_5ZM7F5Y4?fs=1&autoplay=1&rel=0


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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