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Christopher1
Monday, August 3, 2015, 1:07am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi all.

I just moved into a new apartment.

It immediately smelled like cigarettes. Worse yet, it's located 100 meters from a gas station.

To break the lease, I will need to pay a termination fee of $2,500 USD.

I know Dr. D said that people shouldn't live near gas stations in one of his audios. Should I just pay the money and move? Not pay at all since it smells like cigarettes and risk getting sued?

Am I being silly about this whole thing?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-it-safe-to-live-near-gas-station/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1354430/Petrol-station-Living-100m-garage-bad-health.html

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20040818/benzene-linked-to-childhood-leukemia
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I think you have to weigh the facts....whether you can afford to pay that astronomical fee to break the lease....given you knew this apartment was near a gas station before signing the lease....although if you never open windows and indoor
air is purified, you'd likely be okay -- but who never opens their windows?

The links you provided certainly makes your environment seem hazardous to your health. But in every big city all over
the country, if you open the windows in your apartment, chances are you're inhaling exhaust fumes from cars, busses and trucks...and often if you have a smoker living below you or above you, their cigarette smoke is inadvertently
getting into your apartment through ductwork...

I don't think you're being silly....but the ultimate decision has to be yours...Best of luck  


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If you are really healthy, stay for the year & develop more detox protocols, like taking more vitamin C, getting a good air filter, etc. There may be certain BT specific herbs you can take...
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Quoted from Christopher1
It immediately smelled like cigarettes. Worse yet, it's located 100 meters from a gas station.

To break the lease, I will need to pay a termination fee of $2,500 USD.

I know Dr. D said that people shouldn't live near gas stations in one of his audios. Should I just pay the money and move? Not pay at all since it smells like cigarettes and risk getting sued?

Am I being silly about this whole thing?

Whether you move now has to be your decision, but some things to think about:
   Are you downwind of the gas station?
   Does the station have vapor recovery nozzles, or do all of the fumes from the tank escape into the air?
   Can you clean the apt. and filter the air to remove the cig. smell?

I would never say you were being silly about something that truly bothers you, however, I wouldn't spend a small fortune to break a lease if I wasn't seeing some symptom or complaint and couldn't do something about it myself or by discussing it with the landlord...

It sounds like you need to do more investigating / inspection in the future to make sure a place meets your needs or wants.  The time for this is before you sign the lease, not after.


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If you give me your address, I can help.

I'm a geologist and I do environmental site assessments as my job, and I have to identify these sorts of hazards all of the time.

Bonus, I'm also in the Seattle area, so I can tell you exactly whether or not Ecology is doing anything about it or if it's listed on their site register, etc. It may be a confirmed and/or suspected contaminated site. If it is, then it's already being addressed, though Ecology would take it more seriously and get Puget Sound Clean Air Agency involved if there are air quality complaints. Ecology deals with soil and water, PSCAA deals with air.

Of course, if it's already being addressed, there's not a lot you can do about it except wait. Most gas stations that know they have a leaking UST will go through the state's Voluntary Cleanup Program (VCP). This gives them time to do cleanup because they're not under an agreed order (court-ordered cleanup). Of course, if there is an immediate issue that threatens life or health, it's something that may help speed up to clean up process (or at least help mitigate any exposure you may have).


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Also, if you're not on a ground floor, it's much less dangerous from the gas station standpoint. Cigarette smoke, on the other hand...that's a tough one.


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Quoted from ABJoe

   Can you clean the apt. and filter the air to remove the cig. smell?



My guess is that if you threaten to move because of the cigarettes the apartment management company will send someone into it to clean the unit (shampoo the carpets ...).

With sufficient pressure you might get them to swap apartments, which might position you differently relative to the gas station.




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Christopher1
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Thank you for all the advice so far!!

What a great community!
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Christopher1
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Quoted from misspudding
Also, if you're not on a ground floor, it's much less dangerous from the gas station standpoint. Cigarette smoke, on the other hand...that's a tough one.


I am on the highest floor.

Third floor.

I can see the gas station clearly from my balcony. It's close. There's some big trees between me and the station, fortunately.
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Hi. I would encourage you to move out if you are a nonnie.
I lived in NYC for 2 years next door to a gas station, on the 4th floor of a tenement where people wouldn''t stop smoking.
Also the car traffic below me had a lot to do with exhaust coming up off the street whether I smelt it or not.
Sure the windows were open most of the time because we couldnt afford AC, but I developed hyperthyroidism. After getting on thyroid slowing pills I moved out into the country.
I did a vitamin protocol (before I found D Adamo) for 6 months and finally woke up one day to find my hyperthyroid pills slowing down my thyroid too much, so I knew I had detoxed and healed for the most part.

Consider your family history and any organ weaknesses that show up among men, women, siblings in your family.


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Is the cigarette smell coming from your apartment because of a prior tenant, or is it drifting in the air through cracks around your door from another apartment?  If it is stale smells in your own place, a deep cleaning could really help - whether you do it or find a way to have the management do it for you.

Dr. D sells a very good detox formula to support the liver:  Detoxical D  http://www.4yourtype.com/detoxical-d/

If smoke is coming in from another apartment, examine your door carefully and maybe you can improve the seal with the help of your local hardware store.  If it is coming in under your door, get a door snake.   Google door snake, or door draft stopper.  They are readily available and not very spendy.  

I really like having an air filter in my house.  They are worth the small investment and clean the air quite faithfully.  Just buy a new filter for the device from time to time.



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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