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Lloyd
Wednesday, July 16, 2014, 11:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Feeling a bit lost.


It pays to double and triple check your measurement's and to make sure you are measuring the correct way.

That said, a priori a B is a strong favorite to be a Nomad, so it wasn't a bad presumption.
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It pays to double and triple check your measurement's and to make sure you are measuring the correct way.

That said, a priori a B is a strong favorite to be a Nomad, so it wasn't a bad presumption.


The measurements seem ok. I did them all several times to get it right. I think it went from Nomad to Explorer when I added the new information that Swami took into account that wasn't part of my original manual calculations.  

I read the Nomad stuff over and over (I benefit from repetition) and got it stuffed in my head good. Now I just got to repeat that with all the Explorer stuff and push the Nomad stuff out.


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Quoted from EarloHusk

I read the Nomad stuff over and over (I benefit from repetition) and got it stuffed in my head good. Now I just got to repeat that with all the Explorer stuff and push the Nomad stuff out.


If it's any consolation, a lot of us have been through that. In the search box, type "Swami changed my genotype"

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I read the Nomad stuff over and over (I benefit from repetition) and got it stuffed in my head good. Now I just got to repeat that with all the Explorer stuff and push the Nomad stuff out.


Yesterday, I entered my Jaw angle and Head measurements for the first time (didn't think they mattered all that much), and was still an Explorer. Didn't think anything of it. Didn't expect a change.

This morning, I noticed that Explorer was still selected, and checked Determine My Type. I keep forgetting that it once it determines the type, it selects it, and that's going to be my type until I tell it to determine my type again.

Came up Nomad. Cool. Feels much more comfortable now. The book says I'm Nomad. Swami agrees. If I remove the head measurements, Swami has me as a Gatherer. If I remove both the head and jaw info, I'm an Explorer. Didn't expect that, at all. But I'm fine with being a Nomad.  

I do have Explorer pills on order. Thought I was an Explorer for like a day or so. Bad time to order pills. Not sure how this gets handled, but I'ld rather have Nomad pills now.




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I do have Explorer pills on order. Thought I was an Explorer for like a day or so. Bad time to order pills. Not sure how this gets handled, but I'ld rather have Nomad pills now.

Congratulations on coming back to Nomad... Did your diet change much with the changes?

Call customer service and ask...


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Congratulations on coming back to Nomad... Did your diet change much with the changes?


It was actually a big deal: I have several more superfoods in every category, and they are the foods I would happily eat (some of the listed foods I've never heard of, and I ain't eating them).

Very happy with the Nomad diet superfoods.

I'll call customer service on Monday.



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Came up Nomad. Cool. Feels much more comfortable now. The book says I'm Nomad. Swami agrees. If I remove the head measurements, Swami has me as a Gatherer. If I remove both the head and jaw info, I'm an Explorer. Didn't expect that, at all. But I'm fine with being a Nomad.  

I do have Explorer pills on order. Thought I was an Explorer for like a day or so. Bad time to order pills. Not sure how this gets handled, but I'ld rather have Nomad pills now.




Yep, sounds like you have it figured out. I'm sure NAP will work with you on the order.
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If I remove both the head and jaw info


what do you mean by remove?
you mean change the measurements?

swami would not compute without those


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what do you mean by remove?
you mean change the measurements?

swami would not compute without those


Head measurements I remove by backspacing until they are gone.
Jaw Angle I just selected "Optional Field"

On my Swami Xpress, these are in black letter (for optional). Others are in red (for required).

Seems to compute just fine without this info.

We have different Swami?


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yes, I believe I have the pro version for my clients.....

why don t you try again adding the info and let it compute your GT for you

here s a great video  
https://www.youtube.com/v/x3_5ZM7F5Y4?fs=1&autoplay=1&rel=0


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why don t you try again adding the info and let it compute your GT for you


I went back and re-read what I wrote and I had worded that part poorly. I had re-enter the head and jaw info, and I did let it compute for me, and it came out Nomad, which was perfect.

Given that jaw and head info can take me from Explorer to Gatherer to Nomad, it (in my case) was pretty important, and it would have been better for me had the information been required rather than optional. But no matter, the info is in there now.

I'm likely going to let it select my type whenever I give it new information in the future, just to see what happens. I wish "let it select my type each time" was an option, but it's hard to complain -- I do like the results.


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If you use the Genotype book, you need your secretor status in order to use the "Advanced GenoType Calculator Table" in the Appendix.

According to that:

As a B+ male secretor, these are the odds you're of each respective genotype:
Nomad: 9/12
Gatherer: 3/12
Explorer: 0/12.

As a B+ male non-secretor:
Nomad 5/12
Gatherer 6/12
Explorer 1/12.

See how crucial secretor status is?


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If you use the Genotype book, you need your secretor status in order to use the "Advanced GenoType Calculator Table" in the Appendix.

According to that:

As a B+ male secretor, these are the odds you're of each respective genotype:
Nomad: 9/12
Gatherer: 3/12
Explorer: 0/12.

As a B+ male non-secretor:
Nomad 5/12
Gatherer 6/12
Explorer 1/12.

See how crucial secretor status is?


In the book, in my case, both secretor and non-secretor came out to Nomad, so I figured to save some money and not test for secretor status.

In Swami, with all my info entered, if I select secretor, I'm Nomad. If I select non-secretor, I'm Explorer.  

May have to breakdown and determine my secretor status after all.


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In the book, in my case, both secretor and non-secretor came out to Nomad, so I figured to save some money and not test for secretor status.

In Swami, with all my info entered, if I select secretor, I'm Nomad. If I select non-secretor, I'm Explorer.  

May have to breakdown and determine my secretor status after all.


I think this would be a good idea. Both Explorers and non-secretors have certain health "difficulties" that can be addressed through targeted dieting. I'm hoping that you are a Nomad secretor, but would recommend exercising caution if you are not...

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I think this would be a good idea. Both Explorers and non-secretors have certain health "difficulties" that can be addressed through targeted dieting. I'm hoping that you are a Nomad secretor, but would recommend exercising caution if you are not...



I just now ordered the secretor status kit. I am indeed working (these past 4 years) through a health "difficulty". Trying everything, so to speak. May as well do this right


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I just now ordered the secretor status kit. I am indeed working (these past 4 years) through a health "difficulty". Trying everything, so to speak. May as well do this right


Well, if you're inclined... the folks on this board can be a great asset. Pretty much everything gets discussed.
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Well, if you're inclined... the folks on this board can be a great asset. Pretty much everything gets discussed.


Good to know. Might come in handy when my Polyflora B arrives. My last adventure with probiotics landed me in the ER 3 times from trying it once. 42 days wearing a catheter. Kind of put me off probiotics for awhile.

I figure if I can handle Polyflora B, then there really must be something to this blood type theory.

I did a bit of analysis on the probiotic that "got" me. It was a dozen of so different strains. Something from Polyflora A, AB, B, and O. Basically, I was mostly taking the wrong probiotics. In my case, my prostate was upset. Very.

I have a plan in place if things so south, and looking forward to this. Would be very cool if I can take probiotics.


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Start slowly with the Polyflora, just to be on the safe side. Sounds like a substantial adjustment is in order. Blood type specific probiotics are by far the best approach to balancing your gut, but there is clearly more going on here. If you're being treated for a serious GI or prostate condition, it would be wise to contact an IFHI practitioner to work out an integrative course of action.

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Definitely introduce supplements slowly if you get major reactions like this...  


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Start slowly with the Polyflora, just to be on the safe side. Sounds like a substantial adjustment is in order. Blood type specific probiotics are by far the best approach to balancing your gut, but there is clearly more going on here. If you're being treated for a serious GI or prostate condition, it would be wise to contact an IFHI practitioner to work out an integrative course of action.

http://www.generativemedicine.org/ifhi/memberlist.pl


I'm not being treated. Or, I'm treating me. I was a mess 4 years ago (Ulcerative Colitis) and two years ago (enormous prostate), but I now smoke cigarettes (4 a day) for the Ulcerative colitis and avoid probiotics for the prostate problem. I honestly don't seem to have any problems, except my body does go nuts if I ingest something that offends my body (also known as avoids).

The good news is that I know a great deal about what has worked and what hasn't worked. I found the pills I was prescribed for my ulcerative colitis and prostate problem to have been much less effective and much more dangerous than simply changing my food choices. I was encouraged to just keep eating what I was eating, and take pills for whatever problems I had. Seemed just stupid to me, and I've lost all faith in medical science. Unless I get a broken leg -- they are real good at fixing that.

Nomad has all my known problem foods as avoids and all the Nomad superfoods I've tried don't bother me at all -- hence my fascination with being a Nomad.

I will be taking the Polyflora B in slow, gradual increments, and I can now cath myself if my prostate goes nuts while I'm figuring out whether I can handle it, or not.

I'm not against working with a naturopath to sort things out, I just don't have the financials to support that sort of thing. And, I am on it myself all day anyway.

Anyway, should be interesting.


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Definitely introduce supplements slowly if you get major reactions like this...  


You betcha. I'm all caution, here.


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It sounds like you have a good handle on this.  
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