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Azure Agony
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Hi,

I'm sure I read somewhere of a red wine that Dr.D recommended. I think it was a superior brand / type most suited for his research. Sorry to be so vague, but does anyone know anything about this?

Ta.


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organic Bordeaux for example ...Or some lekker Tempranillo....
must point out...also the Chilenos do have phantastic red wines, as the Argentinos do .....dito the Greeks......


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I am a Type O non-secretor and I drink organic red. Specifically, Bonterra Merlot or Cabernet. I LOVE it!  It's on my beneficial (neutral for secretors I think).  Anyway, try it!  It's deelicious!!

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I've had the sulfite-free organic red wine from here:

http://www.freywine.com/

It is quite good!
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Adam, those look wonderful!  Which ones have you tried?  Wish they had a Malbec!  


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Adam - thanks for this; must give it a try; I have not been able to drink red wine without suffering from it and getting quite ill. So I've taken to having the white even though an avoid once in a while with a Deflect and no problems. I'll give this a try and see what happens. Have to plan it for a time that I need a few days to recuperate. I may have it once a month, but I do miss it.  
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The sulfites can release histamine and cause headaches.  I know that much.  I have to drink a good bit of a cheap wine to get this effect, it more happens with champagne for me.
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Hi Easy E, funny that you mention that, because I wanted precisely to post today about wine and headache.

No matter how little wine I drink, I get a massive headache the next day, do you think that's because of sulfites?

Red and white wine are both neutral for me.

I'm actually thinking quitting alcohol all together.
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I drink two glasses of red wine per night.  For me, I think the secret to not getting a headache/feeling hung over is that I also consume at least two glasses of water.  Not sure if that would work for everyone but it does seem to work for me.


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Hi Patty,

I always consume a lot of water any time I'm drinking alcohol.

It does not make a difference.

One night I had two beers with an orange liquor (a speciality from Lorraine) and a glass of Rose, drank as much water as I did alcohol and was not even drunk on that night. The next day I had one of the biggest hangovers of my life....
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I prefer beer to wine personally.  I find it more hydrating and get a relaxed feeling from it, but find it difficult to become intoxicated by drinking just beer (I would have to drink like 7 quickly to be noticeably effected by it to where it interfered with my judgment or impaired me in any way.)  I have one or two a night some nights of the week.

Wine hits me a different way and seems to hit me a good bit more.  Liquor quickly knocks me out and can easily get me impaired and hung over!
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Beer and white wine usually give me a headache.  Although, I've had good luck with an organic chocolate porter from England that I enjoy now and then, and a good Riesling hits the spot sometimes.  But these are rare events.  Amazing how we are all so different.  

Of the Frey Wines, the only one I've had is their Natural Red:

http://freywine.stores.yahoo.net/naturalrednv.html
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Quoted from Adam
Beer and white wine usually give me a headache.  Although, I've had good luck with an organic chocolate porter from England that I enjoy now and then, and a good Riesling hits the spot sometimes.  But these are rare events.  Amazing how we are all so different.  

Of the Frey Wines, the only one I've had is their Natural Red:

http://freywine.stores.yahoo.net/naturalrednv.html


Thanks Adam! I found a distributor in Dallas and am going this weekend!
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One night I had two beers with an orange liquor (a speciality from Lorraine) and a glass of Rose, drank as much water as I did alcohol and was not even drunk on that night. The next day I had one of the biggest hangovers of my life....

I've heard that mixing types of alcohol (beer and liquor) will yield more hangover than drinking one by itself...


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I have heard of A's doing better with their red wine if they make sure to consume it with their protein food. If they are not vegetarians and they have poultry or fish periodically, that is the time to enjoy their beneficial red wine as an accompaniment.
Vegetarians might try this with their tempeh/tofu/cheese meals?

Even outside the dadamo universe, eating food with one's alcoholic intake - especially red wine - is recommended, to avoid headache.  


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Wine prices will probably go up a bit for California wines due to the earthquake...
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Wine prices will probably go up a bit for California wines due to the earthquake...

Most California wineries were unaffected by it.



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Quoted from Xuxuzinha
Hi Patty,

I always consume a lot of water any time I'm drinking alcohol.

It does not make a difference.

One night I had two beers with an orange liquor (a speciality from Lorraine) and a glass of Rose, drank as much water as I did alcohol and was not even drunk on that night. The next day I had one of the biggest hangovers of my life....


I am not trying to be judgmental here, but that does seem like a lot of alcohol and a lot of mixing of different types of alcohol.  I have done the same thing myself and I would have a big headache, too!!!

If you have an inability to effectively clear toxins from your body, alcohol in general could linger in your body longer and the more you drink the worse you would feel.


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My ND doctor advocates that alcohol is a toxin--and to be avoided.  To each his own--right?  But I don't think those of you posting here that are getting headaches, and otherwise sick, from wine should feel badly about avoiding alcohol.  I do understand seeing a recommendation from DrD on your BT/GT/SWAMI for drinking a small to moderate amount and feeling that you should add some to your diet. I know I feel that way, but most of the time even a small amount of organic red will effect me negatively.  But I know that I have gene deletions on liver phase detox enzymes, and SWAMI does not know that.  If something gives me a headache I feel that my body is telling me something.
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Quoted from Xuxuzinha
Hi Patty,

I always consume a lot of water any time I'm drinking alcohol.

It does not make a difference.

One night I had two beers with an orange liquor (a speciality from Lorraine) and a glass of Rose, drank as much water as I did alcohol and was not even drunk on that night. The next day I had one of the biggest hangovers of my life....


I see you are an Explorer - which might explain your inability to clear alcohol.  You might want to consider trying no more than one or two glasses of wine or beer with equal amounts of water to see if things are better for you?  


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My ND doctor advocates that alcohol is a toxin--and to be avoided.  To each his own--right?  But I don't think those of you posting here that are getting headaches, and otherwise sick, from wine should feel badly about avoiding alcohol.  I do understand seeing a recommendation from DrD on your BT/GT/SWAMI for drinking a small to moderate amount and feeling that you should add some to your diet. I know I feel that way, but most of the time even a small amount of organic red will effect me negatively.  But I know that I have gene deletions on liver phase detox enzymes, and SWAMI does not know that.  If something gives me a headache I feel that my body is telling me something.


Very good point, susanc.  For some wine is a poison.  For others it can be medicinal - but only in moderation.  Red wine is good for me because of my specific genetic and family history profile.  It also seems to be more beneficial for non secretors than secretors yet non secretors can have a tendency to become addicted, so it can a fine line between drinking wine for health reasons and over indulging to feed an addiction.  And like you say, listening to your body can be the key!


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Possibly your hangover related to one of three things:

1.  Too much sugar (avoid sweet wines)
2.  Too much pesticides or herbicides (go organic or sustainable)
3.  Too much wine!  The liver can metabolize only a certain amount of alcohol per hour
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa35.htm
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Blood type A is prone to cancer and red wine is beneficial.
Any one knows how it is going to affect when you have precancerous condition?
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I am soooooooo ultra sensitive to alcohol. OMG..... makes me sick. On occasions, I might sip on my husbands drink just for a taste and always drink water with it.

I do however like to cook with it. Wine is delicious for wine sauces and risotto cakes.


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Blood type A is prone to cancer and red wine is beneficial.
Any one knows how it is going to affect when you have precancerous condition?


If I had a pre-cancerous condition I think I would stay away from alcohol.  I would focus on my geno-harmonics and the cancer prevention protocols in the BT encyclopedia.  

I guess I have a hard time relating to any alcoholic beverage as a health food.  I realize it is allowed and beneficial for many, but actually in very small amounts.  

I would think you'd benefit more from drinking green tea than wine.  But I am not the expert on this board.  Others with more experience may very well put me in my place.



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