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PCUK-Positive
Friday, May 2, 2014, 12:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Got all of our results from 23&me now, amazing stuff. didn't realise how much data there is. looking through t it all now but it all fits perfectly with what Dr D does . even down to partners prop tasting status.clever man!

looking at ways to play with the data abut if you have any advice for me or others feel free to add

have to add bits to all of our swami so working on that now.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
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I agree PC! It overwhelmed me at first. I have found 3 third cousins here in the states, a few high % dna matches, and according to my results I have several in France and Ireland!!! We (DH is 1/2 Irish) will be visiting the Emerald Isle this September! It will be fun to locate places where our families lived long ago!

(My biggest obstacle is reading the chromosome segments)


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Hi there PCUK

Have another look at a recent thread called "Blood Clotting Disorder" started by DoS - Zenphoenix, (in reply 11) mentions a couple of apps where you can play about with the SNP data as none of them are allowed to put the SNP information into reports which imply health recommendations anymore.

From memory, C_Sharp may also have some useful insight to share

Keep us posted as to how you get on - I'm saving up for my 23&me. I'm hesitating because I know I will have to pay to get one of my brothers to do it too to get the full picture.

Think I'm right in saying that you only get the X chromosome information being female? And therefore, only half the information? Is it still worthwhile doing if I get it for myself only... That's my quandary…just can't decide...

Also, my SWAMI Xpress highlights 4 SNP's to test for LPL, PPAR, ACE and APOC3 - I presume that this is just the suite of SNP's which are common in O type Gatherers who are often Nonnies, in the same way that removal of AGEs (Advanced Glycation Endproducts) seem to be the GenoHarmonic alignment if you let Swami calculate it for you (rather than selecting a Broad Based Therapeutic option)…?

I was quite skeptical about this when I began GTD last May, but I feel myself more and more drawn to it - I think I was put off a bit when the USFDA banned them from providing the health reports, but I now think that this is just a case of "Big Brother" which I'm totally against…


"Walking is man's best medicine" - Hippocrates

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I feel that the FDA's objective was to stop people realising that the diet is so powerful in helping peoples health and the the data from it can help improve your life if used properly.

When used in combination with swami ans especially swami pro it is amazing.truly top  notch.

Not using the data is like having a washing temperature guide on a piece of clothing which says that it should be washed at 30 degrees, cutting label off and washing it at 60 degrees for its life time, you shouldn't be surprised if it ends up shrunk, worn, rough and doesn't last very long. daft! lol


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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I was so lucky to get my health results just before the ban.  The way I look at them is that it does not mean that I will or will not get a certain condition but the ones I have a higher probability towards will make me be more watchful and maybe change my habits for the better.  Some people it spurred them to go see a doctor which they wouldn't have otherwise and caught the condition early.  I only see positive from the health aspects.  


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
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Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
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I was so lucky to get my health results just before the ban.  


Does this mean that if we order at this time, the health results are not as concise as before the ban?


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PCUK-Positive
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you get the same raw data, you just have to do a bit more work to get the health details. or get someone to interpret them for you like a Swami practitioner.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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I have entered about a third of my snp's data into swami pro and i now have tomatoes as a diamond. that was worth the money just for that lol


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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I did the 23 & me last year & was unable to read all the info as our computer is very old. However,it did tell me the 2 more likely diseases. There was much I could not access, but I got some things like a-b+ in 3 different categories. I don't know what they mean. I think one of them would be the secretor status.
A few times over the year, I have gotten a e-mail saying they found a possible relative,maybe a 3rd to 5th cousin with a name. I don't know if I am ready to delve into that or if my family is interested.
I have shared that I got a map showing where in the world relatives are with most in Europe & one in Argentina.
On the IPad, I went back to the original e-mail & I couldn't access it.  But whatever I found before was worth the 99 bucks. It mentions other things which were helpful & probably not easy to get with a regular doctor.
So, if you can afford the money, it is a useful tool.


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I've been wanting to get tested for awhile now, but am having trouble getting past this article:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/23andme-is-terrifying-but-not-for-reasons-fda/

I just don't quite know what to make of it. Any thoughts?
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Quoted from Averno
I've been wanting to get tested for awhile now, but am having trouble getting past this article: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/23andme-is-terrifying-but-not-for-reasons-fda/ I just don't quite know what to make of it. Any thoughts?


Everyone has an angle, but the info is certainly interesting, and useful. there is a lot of duplication and extreme complication that i imagine will be simplified over time.

I think Dr D is ahead of the game as usual and if you just add the data that he has allowed in swami you are on to a winner. just my opinion.

I've read through the whole of my data now and after a few overlays and off setting i can see things much more clearly. you get many snp where risk is negative but you also get some that are positive in the same area so some cancel out. so instead of say 300 bad ones only some are actually a real risk. and guess what they are the ones in swami.

but also lots of pure info like for example i have gs260 blue and a gs256 brown eye snp although i actually have brown eyes, my partner has the same our daughter got the blue gs 260 from both of us and has blue eyes. I bet that little factor has casued a few paternity suits and god know what lol.

educational that for sure.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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Oh, I have no doubt about the utility of having this information and using it wisely. I'm just wondering if the alarm sounding in the article has any real merit.
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Well if nothing else it keeps the journalist employed


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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PC could you give me any tips regarding reading the chromosome segments?
I know the top line from each pair is from my mom, bottom from dad.
My dad has Parkinsons and I am trying to locate where that marker would be/show up?
I am talking about the colored chromosome segments under the global/ancestry section.
Ex: My small percentage of Ashkenazie shows on my moms line on Chromosome 3
Both show southern European and Balkan on lines 17 .....


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cajun, you can google genetic genie and run your 23andme results thru it (its easy) and you will get a print out of detailed information, much more about health issues….and it disappears after you;re done! I did and it is life changing.
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I did the 23 & me last year & was unable to read all the info as our computer is very old. However,it did tell me the 2 more likely diseases. There was much I could not access, but I got some things like a-b+ in 3 different categories. I don't know what they mean. I think one of them would be the secretor status.
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Your secretor status is indicated by your results at Norovirus Resistance in section Health overview, Traits. If you have AG or GG on rs601338 you are a secretor and not resistant to norovirus, only AA's are non-secretors and resistant to the most common strains of norovirus.

I am very satisfied with 23andMe since among a lot of other important things I have found out, that I have the MTHFR A1298C mutation at rs1801131 (risk letter G).

I also know now that I am homozygous for A blood type, I have two A alleles.


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I also know now that I am homozygous for A blood type, I have two A alleles.


I have an O mother so I know that I am heterozygous with A dominant. But according to 23&me I am homozygous of A blood type


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I have an O mother so I know that I am heterozygous with A dominant. But according to 23&me I am homozygous of A blood type


interesting sharpy is it possible to double check your mums blood type.

if that is correct then one has to allow for errors which is a bit annoying.

is there a list of possible errors somewhere.

I know of some people who thought they were non secretors but 23& me says they are secretors so perhaps we need to be more careful.



Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Gatherer.
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when I passed the exams my co-worker told me: Isa..ya know it might all be...can be... b u t : M U S T 'N !!! .... haaaa.....all the things I've been said- prevued and what else of bla's of being an AB nonnie and MS etc... aber hallo...
So far so well... I'm no more willing to cope with such statements nor *pré-voaances*...

When I remember Bruce Lipton's talkins: mind over genes... I feel much more relaxed....


a new and other approach...another system etc... all well and fine... but I'll stay with my system of bioresonance, orthomoleculars etc.... and of course prevention of the finest....I don't need to get p...off with fears etc... no thanx... I don't need old issues newestly wrapped into so called *scientifiquely* aprooved language... please remember it well... scientifique means only : knowledge ...


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I have an O mother so I know that I am heterozygous with A dominant. But according to 23&me I am homozygous of A blood type



Oh, I don't think that the results are wrong for me though because according to the results I have one A1 allele and one A2. My mother has A2 blood type and also she must have one O allele from her father which had O blood type.




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interesting sharpy is it possible to double check your mums blood type.

if that is correct then one has to allow for errors which is a bit annoying.

is there a list of possible errors somewhere.

I know of some people who thought they were non secretors but 23& me says they are secretors so perhaps we need to be more careful.




rs601338 is not the only SNP indicating secretor status, there are also other SNP's involved, some mutations are less common.


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interesting sharpy is it possible to double check your mums blood type.

if that is correct then one has to allow for errors which is a bit annoying.

is there a list of possible errors somewhere.

I know of some people who thought they were non secretors but 23& me says they are secretors so perhaps we need to be more careful.



Mother`s blood type  confirmed by blood test.
Also she had A & O children while married to an A man.

See Vista's comment above about nonsecretor determination.


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Partner and tasting status? What's that about?
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My partner was determined by me using a geno tasting strip as super taster, her snp's indicate she is an intermediate taster which gets less as she ages apparently. but her tasting status really does seem to be extreme so i have left her as a super taster for now.


Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

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