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Easy E
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I have hypoglycemic feelings after eating certain things, but especially and mainly after drinking coffee (which i started drinking a lot of at work again ) or occassionaly after a high carb meal or sometimes something else. Where could i get some info on hypoglycemia from a blood type or genotype standpoint?

When i was a kid i got it after eating power bars!

It effects my energy level and most noticeable i get irritable and i also think it was behind a lot of anxiety i used to have, as well as the acid reflux i used to have so bad (which is now much better and i use no meds for).  

I know caffeine does this for sure, but wondered if other explorers have experienced reactive hypoglycemia and what types of things trigger this.  My dad and sis also have it, but i know my dad is an AB nomad and my sis i don't know what she is.

Could this also be an explorer sensitivity of some type?

  

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Is the problem caffeine or coffee in particular? Does caffeinated green tea cause the same problems? What about decaf coffee?

It's probably a reaction to "avoid" foods, and/or too many carbs at once. Those "power bars" may have contained avoids, or just too much sugar- especially if they didn't have any fiber or complex carbs, and most of the carb content was  from sugar.

Ideal would  be for you to get a SWAMI, so you can see which foods to emphasize and which ones to avoid. If that's not an option right now, listen to your body carefully. Maybe keep a food diary to see which foods (or combinations of foods) cause the most problems.


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Not sure if this is the type of thing you're referring to, Easy E, but when I eat sweet potatoes for supper, they make me very sleepy.  They are a beneficial for me and I always have them with one of my proteins and olive oil.  They also tend to cause an addictive reaction, cause I can eat  more than I should.  I usually roast them with some spices.  Consequently, I tend to not have them too often.



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might be merely due to a beginning of  *adrenal fatigue*


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Is it the coffee? or are you adding sweeteners and milk to it?


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Quoted from Amazone I.
might be merely due to a beginning of  *adrenal fatigue*


For which... The previous quote from BCgal about sweet potatoes, or Easy E's original question about hypo-glycemic reactions.

I've had hypo-glycemic reactions since early childhood when I'd awaken shortly after bedtime with the shakes. All I knew then was that I craved Cheerios with lots of sugar. But these were crisis moments-- keeping steady and level was a lifelong issue until BTD. Whether the fix came from eliminating sugar or wheat or both, I don't know. I will say that a little wheat now and then no longer has a profound effect, but any sugar can send me into a tailspin.
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aaarrrggghhh yuppers you are right complete of mine, dearest Averno ...forgot our nonniehood... and yep at the age of mid 30ties...adrtenal fatigue
a bit young here but remember adrenals also have something to do with glucose management!!! so far... perhaps merely a sort of imbalance ..........


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I have found recently that a spoon of oil took away my jittery-ness in-between meals.. I take it one hour away from food on both sides - for weightloss in place of snacks.. but you can take it with food to add calories- or to oprevent the empty feeling.... A's have issues with oils so try just a little at first..  

I am some amount of Explorer.. and Gatherer.. for me that also means diabetes in old age.. I feel that hypoglycemia is the pre-curser to diabetes later in life for some..

how are you otherwise.. any muscle issues especially in the evening?  


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Yes, Explorers tend to be caffeine sensitive.  Doesn't the GTD list coffee as an avoid?  It's an avoid on my Explorer SWAMI.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Thanks for the replies!

I sure hope it isn't a pre diabetes condition, because that is scary!  I worked with a guy who has diabetes and became aware of the sugar i consume.  

Caffeine in coffee esp. seems to cause this crash, esp. in black coffee with nothing in it to provide sugar.  I drank decaf today and it wasn't so bad.  Also, tea does not seem to do this the same way.  Coke Zero does give me hypoglycemia feelings though.

It could be some adrenal stress hormone issues, and coffee really amps these up.

Diabetes is non exisitant on either side of my family.  My dad who is AB nomad and my sis get the same type of thing.

I get no muscle issues, but an energy crash that makes me cranky and makes it hard to get up and go until i get moving, then it goes away.  It is not a sleepy type of energy crash, just a blah, tingly, weak, hungry energy crash.  Some simple fast burning carbs can do this to me too to a lesser extent.

As a kid i would get hungry playing basketball and running around all day with friends, and those power bars would not really give me power, but they tasted good!  I got a similar feeling even back then after eating those.  I seem to need substantial foods for lasting energy and fullness.

Explorers have good carbs available to them that give good fuel, i need to invest in those!  I may have some issue with some other things, i will keep track of what different things do after i eat them.


  
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I drank a few cups of reg. coffee today at work and the coffee is def. the culprit.  It has prob built up in my system the past few weeks since relocating.  I was drinking up to 5 8 oz. cups a day, black with a pinch of sugar.

I am able to read blood sugar at my job and it was 72.  My adrenaline system is probably on the edge of pushed to its limit like Amazone said.  I ate some red meat and lettuce for lunch and i picked up, with some sprite, and i felt sharp and on the ball for the afternoon, moving much faster.  For me, coffee, reg or decaf, is a real addictive poison.  I also drank coffee milk on weekend mornings as a kid.  I am an odd system and need to take what the gtd recommends seriously, because it is real.  For one reason or another, coffee is extra bad for me and will be a rare treat if at all.

My cortisol is prob elevated from thinking about it so much too!  It used to not do this, it sucks having limits and not being able to consume whatever i want whenever i want and have no ill effects whatsoever!!!  Thanks for all who read this post, which is still the same issue i have struggled with since i got on here!

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I started getting hypoglycemic symptoms at about your age.
Getting rid of sugar (& many other things as we keep learning) is important. Any white flour/rice food is bad. I also find that pantothenic acid(vitamin B5) helps me. I need a big dose like 250-500mg, rather than the 10 that is the RDA. Take a good multi. I also take chromium to help with blood sugar. That certainly wasn't known about to the general public 30 years ago. I take a good dose with other minerals. Don't forget to exercise(walking is easiest & best) & get out in the sun.
As you get compliant, you may need fewer supps. I used to take more.
Our needs change with age & diet.
You probably won't get diabetes if you keep this under control. I don't fear getting it, but I never say never!
It's a little late, so my mind is not too clear, but I hope I shared some good ideas. There may be more supps. Keep looking & checking with the BTD forum & you will get help!


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Thanks for all the suggestions. I will keep them all in mind!

I exercise almost every day and this helps me all around.  I am pretty mindful of the sugar i take in, and don't really crave it usually.  I want to try some specialized supps from dr. d. I have only used drugstore supps like milk thistle, which seems to help with chemical sensitivty a little.

I don't think caffeine and i were meant to be together.  I seem to be hyper sensitive to caffeine and the chemical aftereffects that occur in my body.  I am sensitive to a lot of chemicals and things and prob sensitive to my own insulin and stress chemicals.  A little goes a long way for me!

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Easy E, I was around your age when we were going through a lot of change and redundancies at work. I got very stressed out and started having symptoms that fit hypoglycemia and adrenal issues, heart palpitations, feeling faint etc.  Honestly did not understand all this stuff back then, but a good friend referred me to her Holistic Doctor who told me to cut out all caffeine and sugar. I had not realised I was stressed but that was a big part of the problem.  He also gave me other food advice which in hindsight was similar to diets that are recommended for candida.    Don't know if any of this is helpful, but I would work on your adrenals as that may be a factor which is typical of us type A's.
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if no one had diabetes then it may just be a transitory issue.. happy for you..

Pantothenic acid helps greatly !!!  it protects the cell walls..

Have you tried a spoon of extra light olive oil in place of snacks?.. I was surprised how soon I feel much calmer..    


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Important points from Amazone and Lin about the adrenal connection. Chronic stress will put me on a roller coaster, and acute stress (such as from sudden physical output-- I tend to pace myself rather fitfully) will result in a crash. I had to give up caffein, too, because my adrenals react to it and I go right down the rabbit hole.

BTW: Cortiguard helps me tremendously in keeping my energy on an even keel.
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I think  caffeine itself induces a stress response in me, it used to give a lot of anxiety sometimes and over time drinking it on a daily basis, i got somewhat more used to it (i tried to force myself to get used to it, so i could drink it like all these other people i see lol)!

Exercising really seems to cancel out the negative effects, if i don't drink it for a period of time it will give me euphoria when i do again, then keep drinking it, it becomes anxiety and irritability, then exercising negates this and feels like it cleans out and resets me.  I feel calm when i drink it the next day, but then a few hours later i get an energy crash, regardless of sugar or no sugar (i drink it black). I get tingly and hungry, and have to push myself to get moving, and eating something helps.  Then it continues if i drink coffee again soon after.  Decaf does this less.  I need to drink tea and herbal tea instead, i started doing this (again).  Sugar does not seem as bad to do this, unless it is a lot in a short period (a 20 oz non caf soda, depending on timing).

I am fortunate and blessed that on both sides of my family, there is no diabetes at all.  Doesn't make me immune to it, but my family has neuro cognitive degeneration on both sides in older age and autoimmune, a spot of heart disease, and rare cancer on my moms side.  Hypoglycemia is in my dad, who is a nomad AB, and my sis, who i believe is a nomad B.

Hypoglyecemia is a health risk for nomads.

I am thinking about giving my sister a gtd book she has bad hypoglycemia and anxiety attacks and energy levels way below what i feel they could be.  I feel i am was a hair from a nomad but ended up with an A and was made an explorer.  My energy level is quite high and i am or can be active even when i feel fatigued and crappy, and the movement actually helps me feel better, esp. if i can sweat (something i had even realized before reading the gtd!)  I can also relax well too and need it to be healthy.  I am aware of when i need to relax and listen.

I literally just realized that hypoglyecemia can cause anxiety, irritability, fatigue,  hunger, and is related to adrenline levels, cortisol levels, and stress which caffeine can mimic, esp for sensitive folks.  I think i am sensitive to chemicals and my sister is for slightly different, but very similar reasons.  Nomads and explorers seem very similar to me, except i have a lot more physical endurance and can perhaps take more punishment physically (outside, sweating, heat, cold, exhertion, exploring without maps or plans, etc.) than anyone else in my family.

I will try all those suggestions
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Easy E, is coffee rated a Toxin/Avoid for you?



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It is in the book, but since i am A, i thought maybe i could have it and it would be more medicinal and healing as opposed to a non A explorer.  Also figured it couldn't hurt in case i am another A genotype like a teacher or warrior.  But it seems to not be beneficial and it becomes addictive.  I would say for me, it is a toxin.  It was tricky, because at first it does seem beneficial and i have a lot of energy, but then i crash and have to use more effort to do things and feel heavy.

Caffeine is also a toxin for explorers, and is not for any other type.  It really seems to accumulate over time if i consume it too frequently.  I am well off to use the book superfoods and avoids, coffee and caffeine are very available and very common toxins to me.  My wife bought me herbal teas and some green tea, which has actually helped my system clean itself out, so i have not felt this hypoglycemic type feeling in a good few days.

It scared me because it lasted for like a week and like i could not get enough food, but looking back, i had drank coffee after coffee since starting a new job location several weeks ago. The job itself is not stressful and i do not move at a hurried pace (i have a more type B personality overall, not in blood type terms but psych terms).

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Coffee affects me in a similar way to what you have described.  My body obviously is telling me that it is poison to my system and that is what it feels like.  As much as I loved coffee all my life, I know it would be counterproductive to my efforts at being healthy.

And, no surprise, Dr. D lists it as a toxin for me as well.  

However, Caffeine in moderate amounts (as in green tea) do not affect me adversely.  So caffeine is not the Avoid, but coffee.  Coffee also has many alkaloids and acids that make it a different creature than caffeine in other forms.



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Quoted from Easy E
...the job itself is not stressful and i do not move at a hurried pace (i have a more type B personality overall, not in blood type terms but psych terms).


Hence the moniker, yes? Good to have this kind of self awareness. As an AB I'm constantly refining where I'm most comfortable (or critical) with A vs B- ness.

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Easy,
I hope you have found an answer to this condition. I feel for you.
Glad I read this now because I have questions?!

Lin,
Please tell me more about the heart palpitations, etc.Just curious when you felt them as I can get them whenever...many times when going to sleep or waking up..heart seems to beat irregularly, also.
Like Easy, I feel the cortisol rise inside but I am fine with coffee, black and herbal teas. I only drink coffee about 3 times a week, one cup of black tea each morning and green and herbals all day. I have felt I could be hypoglycemic in the past, before BTD, but my bloodwork is all good. Maybe it is the "A" thing...we tend to get sort of worked up/excited/ anxious when experiencing new or stressful situations. I can get this way from having interesting or passionate discussions/conversations.


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