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Saturday, January 19, 2013, 12:52am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Okay, I'l concentrating more on Geno type now as I have a kind of handle on blood type after all these years lol.

Sorry if I have asked before.

I'm am an Explorer. that's for sure now. My partner is an Explorer, that's pretty certain too.

Our daughter (although a bit young nearly 7 for swami) types out as a Gatherer.

Is she more than likely to be a Explorer too. I think so what do you think?

We are all Nonnies.


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There is nothing unusual about GenoTypes skipping a generation, or as I understand it children changing GenoTypes.

Whatever BT O explorer food you eat should probably be fine for her; less the white rice however. That'd be the only big thing I can think of to avoid. The rest coincides pretty decently.

She is at a massive advantage if being fed at least most meals compliant! Try to give more protein, not more carbohydrates, when requested to provide more food.
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Saturday, January 19, 2013, 4:58am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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How do you mean, Policychecker? Are you talking about % of Explorer she would show up with in SWAMI if it was configured for her?

All children do have a genotype because it is formed in vitro -- genotype cannot be changed. It can only be revealed gradually through the indivdual's fingerprints and length of limbs, which of course could change significantly during adolescence. I would advocate sticking to what her fingerprints and blood type tell you, until a few years from now, unless you notice some meals making her lethargic or in some other way not "herself".


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it depend what's *overlapping* right now .......


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I'm guessing it has most to do with the mom's diet and stress levels during pregnancy.  If mom is eating right for her type, the baby is less likely to have as many problems.  Seems to me (and correct me if I'm wrong) that Explorers tend to be ... how do I say this? ... the ones to get the bad end of the epigenetic deal all around?  The most sensitive, the most restricted, etc.  Maybe I'm wrong about that.  At any rate, I bet some of those tendencies could be healed and reversed while the baby is still in the womb---based on mom's diet and cortisol levels.

As far as genotypes changing after you're born, evidently that's impossible, but it can *appear* to change based on growth.  So she may measure as a Gatherer now, but that's not how she's going to measure after a few growth spurts.  

I've mentioned this before, but there are a lot of new folks on the board now, so I'll mention it again.  I know Dr. D recommends the plain BTD for children until they're done growing.  But our oldest (10 now) had so many known allergies to the beneficial foods on her AB list, out of desperation we thought we'd try guessing her genotype.  It wouldn't hurt her, after all, and it might help.  So with the help of the fine people here on the boards, we looked through each of the possible types she could be, and based on her overall symptoms and food allergies, chose the one that fit her best: Explorer.  It has been a GREAT leap forward in her healing.  She's not 100% compliant, of course, but she hasn't needed to be.  The AB diet was very good for her.  The Explorer diet has been better.  Is she really an Explorer?  I don't know, but right now it's what she needs.  When she stops growing we'll re-evaluate and see what we need to change.

But anything, no matter which of Dr. D's diets are kids are on, is better than the Standard American Diet.  Or Standard Irish Diet, as the case may be for PC.  


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Quoted from Seraffa
All children do have a genotype because it is formed in vitro -- genotype cannot be changed.


Technically, this should read in utero since it is while they are "in the womb", rather than when they are "in glass".


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En, to be technically correct.  


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Quoted from Ribbit


As far as genotypes changing after you're born, evidently that's impossible, but it can *appear* to change based on growth.  So she may measure as a Gatherer now, but that's not how she's going to measure after a few growth spurts.  


As far as GenoTypes in the book, those should not change. But the epigenotype superfamily label (what many call GenoType) changes in SWAMI. New lab results, you (or your relatives) develop a new health condition, or other changes to the data used to calculate epigenotype superfamily and  your "type" label can change.


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Your Genotype is a result of your prenatal experience. Your partner's Genotype is a result of her prenatal experience. Your daughter's Genotype is a result of her prenatal experience. Yes, part of that experience is epigenetics passed along from her parents (so, what happened with her grandparents and before)  but a much bigger part has to do with what happened to her directly in utero- what her mom was eating, etc.

So Genotypes can definitely change from parents to children.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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So Genotypes can definitely change from parents to children.


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I kind of thought that GT could be changed, for example if a Hunter lived near a polluting factory for years & got some kind of damage from the pollution & later became very sensitive to various chemicals. ..or like some of the members here who have been struggling with Lyme's Disease.  Then that person might be more of an Explorer.  Does that make any sense?

I guess that GT can only really be changed/formed in the womb. Thanks!


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I don't have the quoted text, but I"m sure I remember reading in at least one part of the Genotype Diet book that external influences shortly after birth play a role in developing ones genotype; factors such as breastfeeding versus bottle feeding, living in rural versus urban areas. I think perhaps the differing developing immune systems of vaccinated versus non-vaccinated infants could play a significant role also.


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