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Mayflowers
Thursday, August 16, 2012, 7:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Naturopathy is a way of treatment, not a measure of knowledge. I don't know any MD's that can claim making permanent changes in correcting pathology.


I sure as shootin' won't go to see an Oncologist! They are so mediaevil on curing cancer. Like killing a fly with a sledge hammer!    
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If I was diagnosed with cancer (G-d forbid!) I would see an oncologist for an evaluation and make an appointment with one of the ND's at the Williamsburg office, even if it meant going further into debt to pay for it. I'd have the doctors work together, not dismiss conventional medical treatment altogether.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Medical doctors are trained to participate in clinical trials and researches, to initiate them, and to study scientific journals, but for the great part the scope of their studies is not so wide. Many medical doctors hardly have a clue regarding biochemistry, genetics, epigenetics, nutrition. Medical schools mainly provide professionals who will save lives when acute medical conditions occur. Preventive medicine is not their main issue. Building a healthy society is not their occupation. MD's are no more scientists than ND's.  


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Trained to, but who has time when you are ego tripping the RN's?

Honestly there are a lot of MD's that work in emergency rooms that I would prefer to be present in the event of a lot of different emergencies, than I would have Dr. D'Adamo himself present. Unless there is even more I don't know about him.  
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have him look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgHyBYenBso&feature=player_embedded
Blood Type and Heart Disease


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Thank you Lola! I'll be sending this link to a lot of people.
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Once the concept of epigenetics is understood, it is the idea of a genetic researcher who is studying the expression of a luxury genes (approx 70% of all human genes) and does not know about epigenetic modification of the genes is the unscientific and scarey idea!

It seems to me that the vast majority anthropology enthusiasts cannot take on board the concept of epigenentics.  Much like health enthusiasts, it rocks their conceptual world too much for comfort.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing; the only antidote is a more complete undstanding of the whole.  As in the psychotherapist joke, however, the "lightbulb" has to want to change.

I love that video, Eric!  


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Quoted from paul clucas
Once the concept of epigenetics is understood, it is the idea of a genetic researcher who is studying the expression of a luxury genes (approx 70% of all human genes) and does not know about epigenetic modification of the genes is the unscientific and scarey idea!
Hear, hear!



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Thanks everyone!  My brother is a good guy, and we enjoy debating each other.  He has my best interests at heart.  I posted a status update on my FB page about how I was finally putting my health back as a priority in my life and referenced Dr. D'Adamo's work, that's how this whole thread got started.

I think, as mentioned above, that the best course of action is to give him the information and continue to feel good by following the diet and exercise guidelines.  He will see as I go how much healthier I am, and my husband and children, and then as they say the proof is in the pudding!  Make that compliant pudding, however!


aisling, my siblings are really wonderful people too, but their ideas about health, diet and nutrition are ingrained and they believe them just as strongly as I believe my ideas about health, diet and nutrition.  I have learned to keep quiet on most things but the most basic of advice.  I need to note that all three of my siblings have had bypass surgery for heart disease.  They think I am over the top when it comes to what i eat, etc.  My hope is that I can be the one member of my family (with the exception of my mother) not to develop heart disease.  Of course if I do not, they will all assume that I take after our mother and that my dietary and supplement intervention have nothing to do with it.  You cannot change a person's mind unless their mind is open to change.  Just keep doing what you are doing, be yourself and your brother may find that you are more healthy and active  than he is able to be.  He may not see or acknowledge this.  I love my siblings but I cannot change them or their ingrained beliefs.


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Eric, that was a very well done video.


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

John Wayne's last words
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If I was diagnosed with cancer (G-d forbid!) I would see an oncologist for an evaluation and make an appointment with one of the ND's at the Williamsburg office, even if it meant going further into debt to pay for it. I'd have the doctors work together, not dismiss conventional medical treatment altogether.


Nope. Not me. I'd only go see an ND.  IF Dr. D , say, told me he was 100% sure that chemo would cure me..only then would I consider it. But I would never get radiation.
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Nope. Not me. I'd only go see an ND.  IF Dr. D , say, told me he was 100% sure that chemo would cure me..only then would I consider it. But I would never get radiation.


Well, there's cancer and then there's cancer. There's leukemia and then there's glioblastoma.   The first I'd do chemo, the second I'd update my will and go sit on the beach.


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

John Wayne's last words
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Doctors fix what is broke.  They give basic prevention tips.  It is up to consumers to take care of themselves, and they do so by learning about things like the genotype diet, blood type diet to live the healthiest lives they can.

Doctors are also concerned about people taking any advice they read off the internet, because people have a tendency to drop medications abruptly and harm themselves without supervision.

I believe most doctors truly care for the well being of their patients though.
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I believe most doctors truly care for the well being of their patients though.


That's been my experience as well. I often disagree with them about appropriate medical treatment (using drugs as a last resort vs using them before trying alternatives) and I've met a handful of doctors who were arrogant jerks. But I've also met a handful of arrogant jerks in other professions as well.

Thinking back on my own medical history, I can think of exactly two doctors who were rude and unhelpful to me. One did me actual harm, and the other just wasted my time. Meanwhile, I've worked with dozens of wonderful, caring doctors.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I've met a handful of doctors who were arrogant jerks. But I've also met a handful of arrogant jerks in other professions as well.


So true!


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

John Wayne's last words
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  good one!    yaeli...  you said it all..  


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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