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ian
Friday, July 27, 2012, 10:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi guys,
Here again, trying to understand better this GTD thing….
Please help.

-Are all good foods equally good? Will I get the same benefit (as a teacher) from eating 200 gr of turkey than from a few almonds?
-Are all good foods beneficial in the same specific way? Or do we have to mix them up in our diet to get the full benefit from GTD? Example: How about (as a teacher) eating EVERY day only turkey with quinoa, some almonds and green tea? That would be allright from the perspective of Prots/Carbs/Fats, but will it deliver some benefit from the GTD perspective? I guess not, BUT, is there a shade of grey here? Will I get the 95% benefit from GTD from making my everyday diet based on, for example, 10 good foods? 20? 30?
-How bad is bad?: Is it equally toxic to eat 300 gr of beef  than to eat a handful of pistachio?
-Can you make up for toxins you ate by eating more good food?

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-Are all good foods equally good? Will I get the same benefit (as a teacher) from eating 200 gr of turkey than from a few almonds?
-Are all good foods beneficial in the same specific way? Or do we have to mix them up in our diet to get the full benefit from GTD? Example: How about (as a teacher) eating EVERY day only turkey with quinoa, some almonds and green tea? That would be allright from the perspective of Prots/Carbs/Fats, but will it deliver some benefit from the GTD perspective? I guess not, BUT, is there a shade of grey here? Will I get the 95% benefit from GTD from making my everyday diet based on, for example, 10 good foods? 20? 30?
-How bad is bad?: Is it equally toxic to eat 300 gr of beef  than to eat a handful of pistachio?
-Can you make up for toxins you ate by eating more good food?

Thanks

All beneficial foods are beneficial, but not in the same ways...  For instance, each food does not have the same nutrient content, so they all can't create the same benefit.

You need to have a mix of foods in your diet to get cover the full spectrum of nutrition needs for the body, as well as fats, carbohydrates, proteins, enzymes, etc...

I don't know what percentage of the foods listed you need to eat to get full nutrition profile, but the body will extract the nutrients it needs when you eat the food.  With some nutrients, they are traces that are needed, so you only need to eat some once in a while, not every day, etc...

There are different kinds and levels of bad, as well.  Some foods contain lectins that can cause irritation / disease by agglutinating the blood type information in the digestive tract and bloodstream, the potential effect of it may be worse than a food that just doesn't get digested well and causes minor indigestion and flatulence...

The idea of the diets is to increase the percentage of beneficial foods to displace as much of the avoid content as possible.  It is a personal decision as to how compliant you want or need to be to meet your goals.  If you are a healthy Rh(+), Secretor, you will have less need to be highly compliant than if you are a sick Rh(-), Non-Secretor...  It is different levels of need, etc.


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Thank you again ABJoe.
I will take your advice on the other thread about reading Eat and live right for your type...
I think that would clarify a lot for me.
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Quoted from ABJoe

All beneficial foods are beneficial, but not in the same ways...  For instance, each food does not have the same nutrient content, so they all can't create the same benefit.

You need to have a mix of foods in your diet to get cover the full spectrum of nutrition needs for the body, as well as fats, carbohydrates, proteins, enzymes, etc...

I don't know what percentage of the foods listed you need to eat to get full nutrition profile, but the body will extract the nutrients it needs when you eat the food.  With some nutrients, they are traces that are needed, so you only need to eat some once in a while, not every day, etc...

There are different kinds and levels of bad, as well.  Some foods contain lectins that can cause irritation / disease by agglutinating the blood type information in the digestive tract and bloodstream, the potential effect of it may be worse than a food that just doesn't get digested well and causes minor indigestion and flatulence...

The idea of the diets is to increase the percentage of beneficial foods to displace as much of the avoid content as possible.  It is a personal decision as to how compliant you want or need to be to meet your goals.  If you are a healthy Rh(+), Secretor, you will have less need to be highly compliant than if you are a sick Rh(-), Non-Secretor...  It is different levels of need, etc.


Are RH- people more likely to need to follow the diet more closely?  I am in the process of finding out my secretor status.

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Are RH- people more likely to need to follow the diet more closely?  I am in the process of finding out my secretor status.

I say "Yes" due to the quote from Live Right 4 Your Type in each type section when Dr. D. writes about the two-tier system.  He writes "Tier 1 is the basic diet for everyone.  Tier 2 values should be used (paraphrased - if you are dealing with a stated specific health or injury issue).  Tier 2 should also be used if you are a non-secretor, or if you are incorporating subtype variants, such as MM, A2, or Rh-."


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I say "Yes" due to the quote from Live Right 4 Your Type in each type section when Dr. D. writes about the two-tier system.  He writes "Tier 1 is the basic diet for everyone.  Tier 2 values should be used (paraphrased - if you are dealing with a stated specific health or injury issue).  Tier 2 should also be used if you are a non-secretor, or if you are incorporating subtype variants, such as MM, A2, or Rh-."


It's true that in some cases Rh-status plays a role in the finetuning of the tier-system.
However, I never found in any of the books that being Rh- gives an increased disease-risk.
If anything, in the section on colon cancer (page 91, LRFYT paperback) Rh- seems to protect against metastasizing, when compared to Rh+.


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I would expect that some nuts are good, and is meat, if that is in your diet plan..

I go by the 80 to 100% rule.. If I make my biggest every day choices what is on my beneficial list then all the rest ought not matter much for a healthy young person...

I am on old lady, nearly so.. O so eating better and more varied is a good thing, but some things are my primary.. Super beneficials and beneficials much up front, then snack foods like nuts and grains.. even beneficial ones are not my main meal replacement.. and for sure, I can not replace snack foods for food meals.  

In the case of almonds.. I had issues as soon as I ate more of them.. so fewer is better for me .. or at least peeled.  

in the case of fruit, only a few are allowed when older for diabetes ll so more is not better, were I to be young I would say fruit is better than chocolate.. but I understand the need for both.

To your question headline.. I allowed children to eat 89% of beneficial foods.. then and 20% of their allowance could go for outright junk food which included soda .. their allowance also participated in charity giving and gifts for friends special occasions.. They learned soon enough that they could some times do this and at other times they would be better of doing other things..they needed money from their own pockets for junk .. in the end they where happy and I had no fights on the checkout counters..   the same with food.. I never gave them food on the plate, unless it was the first portion for which I did not care if they finished.. but...  the rest they had to eat if they took more..   no difference between foods - as long as I bought it it was good.. ! and I did not care if they ate the goodies before or after dinner. they treated carrots as goodie as well as chocolate.. when there was no more then there was no more.. made shopping less expensive and balanced in the end .. Balannce, I think is most important..



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It's probably better to eat the same (compliant) thing for lunch every day than it is to eat compliantly some days and eat avoids on other days. However, it's healthiest to eat a variety of foods.

I'm often guilty of "eating the same thing for lunch every day" as well as "packing the same thing for lunch everyday" for my kids. But dinners and snacks will vary. Even when I'm lazy with the meal planning, I still do something different each night of the week. I'll often make slight adjustments- a salad for lunch every day but different veggies, some days I'll have leftover  turkey instead of a can of sardines, etc.


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