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P.S. re my link above to tastenirvana coconut water:  I tried all the varieties EXCEPT the one with aloe.  Why?  Because it contained an ingredient called "fiber".  WHAT kind of fiber, pray tell?  Since they didn't tell, I didn't buy.  What if it is the dreaded wheat, for example?  I get enough fiber without a mystery variety being added to my coconut water, so nein danke.  I did try their other varieties, namely the straight coconut water (thumbs up) and the variety with pulp (thumbs up--some of the pulp is more like a small Hyundai, but okay, I can work with that  ).


I'm a bit confused...What is the source of the pulp in your coconut water....the one without
the aloe?  Do they tell you?  Coconut fiber maybe...which might be actual pieces of coconut..That would be a toxin for you (and me), right?  

Aloe as a plant is very fibrous...Although we see the gel in products if you cut into a frond of aloe, you'd see that a lot of it is fibrous...I'm thinking the aloe fiber would be okay only if aloe is listed on your SWAMI as bene or neutral.  Providing this unlisted fiber source is from aloe.  I question when they list fiber on a coconut water package, wondering if that's pieces of actual coconut meat or coconut flour...Is it white? (the small Hyundai pieces)

I doubt they're adding wheat to coconut water.   But you never know.  Just don't think it would
be chunky pieces that you'd be seeing....I think wheat would just thicken the water...ie turkey gravy.

I noticed the Naked brand Coconut water which I had in my 'fridge was about 5 months old...
and it said it came from Brazil....but, when (waiting for my online order to arrive) I bought a large container in the HFS yesterday of Naked, I noticed it said coconuts were sourced from Indonesia...I'm assuming it's just coconut water...nothing else.  No fat, 8 grams of carbs and
1 gram of protein. No fiber.

It's a very unsettling feeling to be drinking a beverage that we're all considering neutral when
it's never been tested.  The fact that it might eventually turn out to be a toxin for many of us
would really be a bummer.  I truly avoid toxins...Considering our diets are such specifically
targeted nutrition....I'd just love to know if coconut water was as good for me as I feel the
potassium in it might be.

I mean, I can have coconut oil as a neutral...but coconut and coconut milk are oxins.  The water is neither the oil nor the milk....Wouldn't you all love to know how coconut water really rates
for each of us?



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Okay, here's the kind I like.  A gal who works at the HFS I shop at said this is her fave type, too, and she lived in Thailand for a while and drank fresh coconut water all the time (she also tells me they sell fresh watermelon juice in Thailand...I need to move there ASAP, but I digress again  ):

http://www.tastenirvana.com/default.php


Hi Peppermint, same as EquiPro mention. they sell coconut water there on the streets and in the store.  They have young coconuts, peeled and ready to go.  When you buy one, they lop the top of the coconut off, stick in a straw and hand it to you!  3 coconuts only 1 Dollas.

Also, in my home town( Northern)  they have both for sale. They have steam Fresh Corn all kind of color and Fresh coconut water. 1 bag has 4 corns for 75 Cent. It is so delicious because they just pick from the plant today and sell for the next day. Steam on the streets still HOT!  

This YouTube in Bangkok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSEiQxiVA7U


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I called the Taste NIrvana company.  The pulp is bits of raw coconut.  For those who can't
have coconut, just know that you are getting minute pieces of it in this beverage.


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I'm a bit confused...What is the source of the pulp in your coconut water....the one without
the aloe?  Do they tell you?  Coconut fiber maybe...which might be actual pieces of coconut..That would be a toxin for you (and me), right?  

I mean, I can have coconut oil as a neutral...but coconut and coconut milk are oxins.  The water is neither the oil nor the milk....Wouldn't you all love to know how coconut water really rates
for each of us?


   Yes, please I would love to know how Coconut Water really rates for each of us.

May be they don't have the item for test? I understand sometime some area hardly to find the product. In the village where I live they do have a lot of vegetables and fruits that not in my list. So I always missing those food.  

http://www.onedrinks.com/buy-one-coconut-water


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I just bought some Tastenirvana (plain) coconut water and can't wait to try it.  There's one waiting for me in the car (not cold unfortunately but what can you do)  The other two are in the frig.


Joy

PS to PT:  Thanks for mentioning the brand.  I got it in Publix.
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Oh, I forgot:  one other thing I was musing on is that, to me, the coconut water is SO sweet that I could conceivably actually use it as a sweetener.  For example, I'm not one to indulge much in cold cereal for breakfast, being Type O.  I do often have basmati brown rice stir fries and such for breakfast, so that is my savory version of "breakfast cereal", but anyway, IF I were inclined to have a bowl of traditional breakfast cereal (compliant, such as Rice Chex or something), I think it would be good with coconut water instead of milk, personally.

Also, I think coconut water would be good added to smoothies and possibly good for use in baking compliant sweet breads, cakes, etc.  Since I basically never make any of the above, except for smoothies, I don't know that I'd ever try this but it is a thought.

I use agave nectar for a sweetener, and I rarely use it at all.  Occasionally, I will add it to stir fries because it is goooooooooooooooooood in there, but I usually don't add sugar (and, let's face it, that is adding sugar) to anything.  My diet is delish without doing so, to me anyway.  Salt is another matter.  I add sea salt to pretty much everything.  But I digress.

Just thought I'd throw in a post about my musing on the potential of coconut water as a sweetener for certain thaaaaaangs.  Discuss!  


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Also, I think coconut water would be good added to smoothies


Agree.
And curries? - instead of coconut milk.

So I could report, I tried some of the cocobella & kokomo brand yesterday - both unsweetened - & verrry refreshing. I would love to replace plain old tap water with this stuff! I have heard it is nice with a squeeze of lemon or lime too.
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PT, I'm still blown away that you've lost 96 POUNDS!  Can you even imagine what it would feel like if you had to lift a 96 pound person and carry her on your back all day long!  WOW...You are totally amazing

OK, back to coconut water chatting


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PT, I'm still blown away that you've lost 96 POUNDS!  Can you even imagine what it would feel like if you had to lift a 96 pound person and carry her on your back all day long!  WOW...You are totally amazing

OK, back to coconut water chatting

Thanks, Chloe!  I'm still blown away by it, too.  The novelty never wears off, or it sure hasn't to date, anyway.  In thinking of getting down to 100 lbs down, I realize that that will be like losing 2 and a half 40-lb bags of topsoil *lol*.  I think of it in those terms, as I have been known to carry those from Lowe's garden center to my car, and from my car to my yard and then lugging them around the yard.  I did most of that at my fattest and it was nearly impossible, just to lift, carry and/or drag ONE 40-lb bag of soil.  I notice now that it is MUCH easier for me to carry those.  I'm not quite sure I believe how much easier it is, as it was a different brand of soil I bought last time, so I decided it was lighter (as it was a potting soil...yet I think it was the same size bag as the topsoil that always said 40 pounds).  ANYWAY, I've lost almost 2-1/2 of those HEAVY bags of soil!  Granted, my weight was distributed a little more ergonomically than carrying those retangular bags, but STILL.  Horrendous.

I don't think there is one moment in any given 24-hour period in which I'm not aware, however slightly, of that fact that I'm SLIM.  And there are many moments, every day, when it really still just hits me.  Every time I sit on a bench in the dog park with two other people, for example, it's like, wow, I fit on this bench with two other people.  Or just little things, like the way I can cross my legs or move or whatEVER.  So many little things...I'm always aware, always grateful.

I never take it for granted.  For example, today, yeah, when it was time for my lunchbreak walk, there were outer bands from Hurricane Isaac causing a drizzly rain that kinda whipped around at times.  I was like, not gonna stop me from taking my walk!  In fact, I prefer overcast and drizzly to blazing sun beating down on me and sweltering.  Let's DO THIS!

Okay, back to coconut water.  



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....You've lost two and a half 40 pound bags of top soil. Why does that sound so darned funny!~  I'm just thinking that I can't even lift one 40 pound bag by myself.  And you were wearing 2 1/2 bags~  Have you contacted Eric?  He's making a movie and wants to interview people who will share their success stories.  You certainly have an inspirational story to tell~   I remember when you were totally addicted to chips.

Okay, NOW, back to coconut water


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Just reading that some varieties are heat treated and therefore not really worthwhile...
There is an organic Brazilian coconut water called "coco juice" that claims to be superior as it is not heated intensely.
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Quoted from Chloe
It's a very unsettling feeling to be drinking a beverage that we're all considering neutral when
it's never been tested.  The fact that it might eventually turn out to be a toxin for many of us
would really be a bummer.  I truly avoid toxins...Considering our diets are such specifically
targeted nutrition....I'd just love to know if coconut water was as good for me as I feel the
potassium in it might be.

I mean, I can have coconut oil as a neutral...but coconut and coconut milk are oxins.  The water is neither the oil nor the milk....Wouldn't you all love to know how coconut water really rates
for each of us?

Yeah, that's why I'm not drinking this right now. I'm still healing, still trying to find balance, and until I do, I'm not doing any "experiments" on myself. Besides, I suspect I'd have the same reaction that PT had. I do not do well on sugar! And 8 grams of sugar in a cup of liquid seems incredibly sugary to me.



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Am bracing for the ole 'too good to be true' - what if all the worst coconut characteristics are distilled in the juice?  
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I did some further 'research' - & tried the 'coco juice' (from Brazil apparently, however the container only says produced in Germany   )
I find it much less sweet than the other two, non-organic varieties I tried earlier.
The coco juice has allot more of the 'aloe vera' like flavor - almost bitter.

Silly me - stuck with a few cartons of this one now - think I will experiment with making a toner with it...
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I did some further 'research' - & tried the 'coco juice' (from Brazil apparently, however the container only says produced in Germany   )
I find it much less sweet than the other two, non-organic varieties I tried earlier.
The coco juice has allot more of the 'aloe vera' like flavor - almost bitter.

Silly me - stuck with a few cartons of this one now - think I will experiment with making a toner with it...


Read where it explains about the difference in natural sweetness of coconuts found in various
parts of the world.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/coconut-water-calories-in-coconut-water.html

Also Indonesian and Philippine coconuts have a different level of sweetness than those from Brazil.

But still, the question is:  Which individuals will thrive on coconut water and which ones of us
will be drinking a toxin.

If I lived in the tropics and was sweating profusely every day, I might drink coconut water more often....For now, I'm using it occasionally....as I've got many more important beneficial juices and teas on my SWAMI that I'm sure are safe.



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Poor thing!    aww… I don’t  like seeing them use plastic when the food is so HOT.
They don’t know how dangerous it is if the chemicals come out from the plastic (makes me think about my Mom when I was young, she always used Banana leaf to wrap food for the grill or to be steamed).  

This youtube shows how to prepare the food which has sticky rice, coconut milk, sugar, and Black bean but my mom made without Black bean and only 3 times per year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biTtou-IzaA

I don’t think she knew about chemicals from the plastic but it was just her habit and she used what we had around the house and in the backyard.

This is the ” Pinto” as it is called Thai.  My Dad used to carry this with him when he went to work. This Pinto is from just about 37 years ago.  Now they are made with stainless still.

shttp://www.aboutkitchenware.net/food_carrier.php

Also, I carry a “Pinto”( 3 levels)  this one with me when I go to work for my Dinner.   Of course, this is a little more advanced than the one my dad used.  http://www.cctkitchenware.com/product-th-216198-1004796-ปิ่นโตสเตนเลส+ขนาด+14*3+ตราหัวม้าลาย.html

http://importfood.com/thaicookware.html

When I see a Video I would like to tell them to “ EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR  TYPE PLEASE” on  the other hand better than French fries or something deep fried.  Wait…a minute still toxin hah.

Lastly, I would like to share with you guy with how to massage the feet.  This is one reason why I am now able to sleep well.

You can use Argan oil or sesame oil or coconut oil.  This man says the Benefit of massage feet :
1.     You will walk better, and you will feel good
2.     breathe easier
3.     Activate motivate awaken your organs, and help with bowel s
4.     Stimulate the nerve endings in the feet that correspond to parts of the brain, head, and nose in the skull. In a matter of  removing waste from the body.
5.     Stimulate the body's internal organs such as the intestine, liver, kidney, and heart, lung and other organs. Involved, including the driver of the stool and urine. And waste from the body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNuq-eigq-A&feature=g-vrec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2k0Nl6_SjU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfw8Ynt-76E&feature=fvwrel



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Also, I carry a “Pinto”( 3 levels)  this one with me when I go to work for my Dinner.   Of course, this is a little more advanced than the one my dad used.  http://www.cctkitchenware.com/product-th-216198-1004796-ปิ่นโตสเตนเลส+ขนาด+14*3+ตราหัวม้าลาย.html

Sorry, it wasn't this one.



This one is correct but only 3 levels
http://www.jaguarware.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=cat_showcat&l=2&cid=479



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Great discussion.  I talked to my new chiro about coconut water, as I was wondering about the relative merits or demerits of drinking it post-adjustment.  Anyway, he feels that it is so high in sugar that it is basically (though not nearly as bad, as it doesn't have all the chemicals, HFCS, etc.) as bad as drinking soda in the sense of how it could trigger a sugar addict's addiction into high gear, basically.  And, being human, we are all wired for sugar addiction to one degree or another.  Anyway, he makes a good point and one which I was already thinking about and being careful about before chatting with him.

That is why I only drink the stuff occasionally, and basically not on a day when I am having any other sugar infusion, such as a large piece of watermelon or a little agave in a stir-fried rice dish or something.  If I have a coconut water, that is my sugar for the day.  And it doesn't feel like it is the greatest thing in the world for me to imbibe, frankly.  Again, it just FEELS sickly sweet to me.  That said, I do think it is nice occassionally for a potassium boost, especially after vigorous exercise, etc.

Anyway, gotta go, I'm suddenly very uncomfy in this chair, coccyx-wise.  Don't want to undo what the new chiro has accomplished, so off to bed with me!  There's nothing else for it!  Nighty night, all!  


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What is the difference between coconut water and coconut milk? We always called the liquid in coconuts milk when I was growing up. Coconut milk is a black dot for me. I haven't seen any that didn't have 'way too much junk added. I have seen the "water" on-line that didn't have anything added or not much anyway.


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When you split open a coconut, the juice you’ll find inside is the coconut water. It tastes like water that slightly sweet with a light coconut flavor.

Coconut milk is usually made by cooking equal parts coconut and water.


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I just tried a bottle of the COCO brand of coconut water(flavored).."ing: natural coconut water,aloe vera juice, aloe vera pulp,passion fruit juice,pineapple juice,citric acid, Vitamin C"  .....it has tiny pieces of pineapple or something? floating in it...didn't really care for it...too sweet.


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I didn't like the one brand I tasted at a Whole Foods tasting, and I'm generally a big fan of coconut.


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I used to drink coconut water - it was refreshing but I am not sure if it did anything for my muscle aches at the time (I was not BTD and eating chicken which causes pain).

I bought coconut water in a white can with green coconuts from an Asian market. The coconut water was either a Thai or Chinese brand with coconut flesh chunks and coconut water (nothing else). If it is a neutral, I would not mind drinking it again.


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I drink coconut water after working out as it's a good natural substitute for sports drinks, but I don't think its delicious at all, to me it doesnt taste even remotely like coconut. I was wondering is coconut water good for weight loss and found some info, coconut water can help to lose weight if you drink it instead of fruit juices for example.

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Some people are very sensitive to anything tropical, especially if they have underlying weak organs, glands or some mineral imbalances/deficiencies.  The body basically rejects what it considers a toxin.
this happened when I had to grab lunch at a Chinese eartery back in July, I now know it was the sugar in the sauce that caused the reaction, as ate something with sugar this week, and the same reactions happened, so now try to cook lunch at home and bring it with me. It's amazing how just a little of something can have you in such discomfort, pain just one or two hours after injesting it.
the soy could also have been a factor as could have been the type of salt used.
coconut water is ok, but to me, the money could be better spent on some vegetables or fish (pure protein) which my cells actually are holding out for, or a fresh juice made at home from veggies, and a little apple.
I am trying to now decide if I should buy a little paw paw or passionfruit for this weekend, should be fine, so long as other meals during day are balanced, some duck this weekend, and maybe a little beef; things progress slowly but surely with me, and I look forward to pineapple and mango soon, plus the plums and cherries soon to arrive in summer.
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