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C_Sharp
Thursday, July 19, 2012, 5:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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  How and why can a B+ NOMAD add back chicken when it is supposed to be so bad for Bs.


1) Chicken is still bad for nomads. It is a black dot avoid for Nomads in the GenoType diet. Chicken is not a recommended food for Nomads.  In the standard blood type diet (from the Eat Right for Your Type Book) there is one level of avoid.  In the GenoType diet there are two levels of avoids. Even if GenoType diet was not different than blood type diet if you split avoid foods into two levels, some avoids would be at the higher level and some would be at the lower level of avoid.

But black dot avoids should not be making up a major component of a person's diet.

2) The Blood type diet was primarily focused on whether foods agglutinate blood. While the GenoType diet considers this factor it also considers many other factors. If you consider different issues in determining the ratings of a food the rating may not match some other system.  Agglutination does not trump all other factors in the GenoType diet.  Your questioning seems to imply it should. Obviously since Dr. D'Adamo set up the system for the GenoType diet, he thought differently on this issue.  




On what causes a particular food to be rated in a specific way in the GenoType diet people can only speculate. The book published lists of foods, not an explanation of the rating of each individual food.

Dr. D'Adamo set up a computer program to weigh all the individual factors for a food to determine's its rating in the GenoType diet. So even Dr.  D'Adamo may not know all the factors that caused a food to rate a certain way in the GenoType diet. He could obviously deconstruct what his program did for a particular food and come up with the reasons.  He explains the concepts at high level in the GenoType book, he explains more  how the factor's he considers affect the biochemical processes in the body in the Generative Medicine textbook.




Chicken has both positive and negative qualities for Nomads.

Negative chicken contains

Hemmaglutinating Lectin
It contains a Metabolotoxin that interferes with metabolism of ABs and Bs
Frequent Bacterial and viral contamination

Positive factors:

No Alcohol
Not a major Allergen
Significant amounts of protein
Contains significant amounts of Amino Acids (these are considered individually)
Contain some fatty acids (again program considers specific ones)
Contains some Calcium and other minerals (these are treated individually but I do not do that here)
Contains vitamins (again D'Adamo consider the level of a variety of vitamins)
No problem with glycemic index/load
No significant mold contamination

Since I do not know the internals of the software, I do not know how heavily these or other factors were weighted in determining the ranking of foods.


      


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Henriette Bsec
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Interesting C-sharp
Now chicken is not a thing I would concider eating again and it is plain avoid btw...

- some of my black dots I am more carefree with; like black tea, sugar and soy sauce.
Especially the black tea I find hard to avoid completely

and I wonder why it is black dot while coffee is just neutral.


I wonder was it regular GTD or a swami ?
My swami diet is fairly different from the one in the book - I don´t think there will be many B/nomads that got chicken as black dot  


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WOW!.. I just went back to SWAMIX and looked at my black dots.. Imagine I found: Filberts, Hazelnuts to be a black dot!!!!! NO wonder I love them in chocolate .........  and NOW there is no more GUILT when I have some.. ahhh the pleasures of permission.. (near permission)

I think.. 'I' so often wish to type those two words.. I wonder why..?  .......Yet I wonder also,.... could it be that I miss the many years of interactions I might have had with my father the Chef, if it was not due to circumstances preventing it.. It would have been great to discuss with him the basics of BTD...... Maybe I 'need' this clear cut edict of BLACK Dots for 4 times a year to eulogize my father.. Ha..   I can have fun with such little things..  

I love the emotional interaction -within my own meandering mind-. It has a life of its own.

I blame chicken as the culprit for my moms (B) cancer at 80.  She had beat cancer for 50 years only to get a new one after eating chicken for 10 years during her retirement in the US.  At home we never ate chicken, in my youth it was a luxury. The over-size chicken breasts available in the US are like: chicken on steroid..  I can not see the love affair with them..

WoW.. and I never looked much at avoids or black dots.. and now I just discovered (totally overlooked) that I was right when I often said here, that rice puts me to sleep.. look what Swami said in avoid:
Rice Flour, Brown
Rice Flour, White
Rice, Basmati •
Rice, Brown
Rice, Puffed or Rice Cakes •
Rice, White
Rice, Wild

I have just been proven right in my own body experiences!!!!! Mind blowing.. !  

and...
Barley •              
Oat Bran •  ......... I like those black dots once a year....  just for the memories.

Same with Apricots •   sometimes I love them dried and tangy..

Stevia •   no wonder its now black dot, I never liked the taste!

yet... now vinegar and mustard with vinegar are black- dot also. So, guilt free eating during high holidays is nearly possible... so much fun looking at the avoids - I never even considered LOOKING at!  

This Swamixing is fun.. like swimming in murky water.. and then the light goes on and I 'break' the surface and see 'clearly'!..

Thanks C-sharp.. this will be a fun thread.  


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Quoted from Henriette Bsec

Now chicken is not a thing I would concider eating again and it is plain avoid btw...

- some of my black dots I am more carefree with; like black tea, sugar and soy sauce.
Especially the black tea I find hard to avoid completely

and I wonder why it is black dot while coffee is just neutral.


I wonder was it regular GTD or a swami ?


The original question was posted in a GenoType diet forum and disccussed GenoType diet.

So the concern was there, but as you not the same issues arise when dealing with the SWAMI diet.

The individual foods may vary, but the same issue occurs.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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I may be too sensitive but I sort of find Sa Bon Nim's reply to nehebru  (sp's??) a
bit arrogant. I have some natural healing background but I would like to find some clear cut answers, like, " why no chicken for Teacher type". I do not have the time
to become a scientific scholar on every issue to which I adhere. I am a staunch
believer in Dr. D Adamo's work; in part because some of his , "yeah sayers" are people known to be of immense professional competence and integrity. So for me, I want a layman's book that succinctly says why, lays out menu suggestions and a myriad of tasty recipes for "1" that are Genotype specific. My summer gift to me and, likely,"mine" will be a SWAMI. A race horse owner would never permit trash to be fed to his prize runners, neither would a bona fide dairy producer, his cows. Why do we think we can do that to ourselves without deleterious consequences. I have friends say, " Well, I'm not overweight so I guess pork is okay for me", and in the next breath talk about the high incidence if degenerative diseases and young deaths in their families. Like the two are not connected. I am convinced in the currency of BTD and GTD.
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I have some natural healing background but I would like to find some clear cut answers, like, " why no chicken for Teacher type". I do not have the time
to become a scientific scholar on every issue to which I adhere. I am a staunch
believer in Dr. D Adamo's work; in part because some of his , "yeah sayers" are people known to be of immense professional competence and integrity. So for me, I want a layman's book that succinctly says why, lays out menu suggestions and a myriad of tasty recipes for "1" that are Genotype specific.


Your choices are among the following:

1. Develop enough scientific background to understand what you want to know.
2. Accept answers that may sound clear-cut but are actually simplifications.
3. Believe.

It sounds like you want a simplification that is tailored to you. The generic simplifications are in the books. Everything beyond that requires some work on your part.
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pozzateef,

I'm sorry that you think C-Sharp responded in an arrogant manner.  Much of what he quoted was from the SWAMI program written by Dr. D'Adamo...  

We attempt to distribute information that answers questions in an unemotional manner to be helpful to the best of our ability.  Some of the "whys" are not readily available since many of the answers are now presented by computer, without explaining every reason for each food.  Since some 200 factors are taken into account for each food, a report showing the results of each parameter tested for each food would be overly long.


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