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Constantine
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I just took the 23andme test, and it said that I'm likely to be lactose intolerant.

As a Nomad who drinks milk without any apparent side effects, what am I to make of this?  Should I take it seriously, or should I just follow my "gut"?  I can see some truth in it since my mom can't drink milk (and she's B+).

Aren't some Nomads supposedly lactose intolerant?
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concentrate on following your swami

did you check your Y chromosome and mitochondrial as well?

this info you got helps detail these points

however, these 23andme people do not consider abo nuances, do they?


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Yeah, I entered my Y and mito haplogroups and SWAMI came out a little bit different.

One thing I noticed from 23andme is that I'm BO and RH +/-; I'm "half O neg."  My brother and dad are both O neg and seem like Explorers.  I'm sure I have some Hunter- or Explorer-type traits.
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Individuals can be lactose intolerant even if they are Bs and/or nomads.


23 & Me most likely gave you a probability of being Lactose intolerant.

This would not mean that you were lactose intolerant, just that you were more likely to have the trait than people in general.

Wording was probably something like this:

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Likely to be lactose intolerant due to lack of the lactase enzyme as an adult. Unable to drink more than a glass of milk a day due to lower adult lactase enzyme levels. (May still be lactose tolerant for environmental reasons.)


If you do not experience difficulty with dairy products you are probably producing enough lactase to digest them.


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My youngest son has terrible problems with Lactose Intolerance, my oldest son has none whatsoever. Both are A-types. But I am definitely Lactose Intolerant. The only thing that I can eat without suffering dreadfully from it is cottage cheese that has been thoroughly rinsed using a fine strainer to get rid of any uncultured milk. Most of the time I remember to take lactase but if I forget, at least I won't practically get sick from eating it.


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we all have a dominant and a recessive gene

one of your parents is an O

Os only have Oo dominant and recessive are both Os, to become a type O

you are a B, cause both A and B are dominant over O

read up on Punnet square


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23 and me said I'm LIKELY not lactose intolerant, but could have other issues that would affect my tolerance to milk. I am definitely allergic to dairy. My skin tests show it, my IgG blood tests show it, and my experiences with dairy all my life show it. So, it isn't the lactose intolerance per say, but an allergy to milk.
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My Dad is an O- Explorer and has had lactose intolerance his whole life but still eats ice cream at 82 years old! He says it doesn't bother him.
My Mom is an A+ who never liked milk but ate cheese and cream,etc. Now, later in her life, she has dairy "issues" .....I am still working on her following the "A" diet!
Now, I was raised drinking cow milk..4% stuff! I know that is partly why I have always had sinus problems! I guess I was lucky not to inherit the lactose intolerance.....(My Dad has allergies so that added to sinus junk.)


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Have any asian descendants? Heard Dr. D tell a young asian women at the store opening a Blood type B that she will not tolerate milk even though she is a B.

Lactose persistence is really the issue.  You can read more about it all over the internet.

Why would adults need to digest milk?



http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2009-08-30-lactose-intolerance_N.htm


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I have no Asian ancestry, at least none that 23andMe was able to detect.  They said I was 100% Caucasian.

Milk has no effect on me whatsoever.  But I think I'll just stick mainly to cultured dairy stuff from now on just in case.  That's what my family and recent ancestors that I know of have always done, and they seem to be doing pretty well.  
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Quoted from Constantine
I have no Asian ancestry, at least none that 23andMe was able to detect.  They said I was 100% Caucasian.

Milk has no effect on me whatsoever.  But I think I'll just stick mainly to cultured dairy stuff from now on just in case.  That's what my family and recent ancestors that I know of have always done, and they seem to be doing pretty well.  


Do you know what back ground you have.??
IF you have, danish, north german or dutch roots it isi very unlikely that you should be lactose intolent. It is very rare in those populations.
Even the danish O types seem to handle dairy much better than their sister and brothers elsewhere.
Not that they ought to but  

But then again I do think that cultured butter, cheese and yoghurt is the best thing to have- and keep drinking milk low- especially if you cant get raw pastured dairy.

I do have full fat milk as superfood


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Both my mother's and father's ancestors are from Germany, Holland, and other northern European countries. Even though 23 and me says I am likely not lactose intolerant, I am very allergic to dairy, even the cheeses that Swami says are not avoids. Mom was allergic to milk and so is one of my children. Dad is not, and my other child seemed to outgrow her dairy allergy.
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HB,
Didn't you say your dairy cows are a special breed as opposed to the ones most common in USA? Would that make a difference?
I know when I have spent time in France,(In private homes and hotels) I used their cream and milk and didn't have a problem. I had cream in my coffee, ate butter on food and in sauces, and loved their very creamy yogurt! This was for 2-4 weeks at a time but never a problem with sinuses or digestion!


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- there is a bit of talk about A1 or A2 cows- but that is in regard to the protein casein - not the sugar-lactose.

Another matter is that raw milk contains things among them lactase that makes it easier to digest
- so I know several lactose intolerent who can drink raw milk but not modern " dead "milk.

I prefer to get  organic jersey milk from cows on pasture- and if I can get it raw it is a bliss- but sadly - it is hard.


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Ah, ok...thanks, HB!


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HB: I think you need a "pet" cow or goat.


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HB: I think you need a "pet" cow or goat.


I would love a small brow jersey or guernsey cow  


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