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I also follow the paleo movement, and many "gurus" are recommending a higher fat intake and a moderate protein intake. They say it is good for self-repair and longevity.

If I eat more butter with vegetables and less beef, while it tastes nice and I'm not as hungry as often, I do get fatter.

Fat just seems to make me fatter. Protein keeps me leaner, but I do eat more often.

Do other O's here have the same experience?
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I do put on weight if I eat saturated fat or too much red meat. I do well with olive/sesame oil, moderate protein and low carb. I eat salads all the time. I don't douse my food with fat but I eat enough to satisfy. I use small amounts of ghee to cook with and eat lots of fish. I also eat turkey and some chicken but when I do eat red meat, I only eat 2 ounces at a time. lamb seems better than beef too. I find red meats can make me hungrier sooner, though it seems I can always eat.I do low carb, about 65g animal protein ( tho sometimes I need more) and ample fat as needed, just lower saturated. I eat tons of non starchy veggies and just a few berries for dessert if desired. I also eat a few nuts and seeds if I feel like it but not a lot at a time or I just want more.

What's your plan?


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There's no such thing as a "one size fits all" diet. What works for one person won't work for somebody else. Even two people with the same blood type can have vastly different "ideal diets" especially in terms of macronutrient ratios. It's easier to find common ground in food choices than in daily ratios. I can easily make a meal that my whole family can eat, but I'll eat more veggies and DS will take more grains and DD1 will have a large fruit smoothie for appetizer or dessert.

It may take some trial and error to figure out what works  best for you. If higher fat, lower protein makes you gain weight, then that's obviously not a good choice for you.


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I also follow the paleo movement, and many "gurus" are recommending a higher fat intake and a moderate protein intake. They say it is good for self-repair and longevity.

If I eat more butter with vegetables and less beef, while it tastes nice and I'm not as hungry as often, I do get fatter.

Fat just seems to make me fatter. Protein keeps me leaner, but I do eat more often.

Do other O's here have the same experience?


paleo.. well you can serve many masters but be true to you only.. results will tell the tale..

butter, on avoid in the first place.. Beef is Beneficial.. is there a contest?  not for me...

Getting fatter?  well your way of doing things responds / gives you the results you wish to get..self fulfilling expectations..

Fat or protein.. we are O and then on top of that GATHERER.. we do poorly on fat, above the amount indicated in the books or Swami. All other foods make us spike the insulin.. that in terms makes us tired, sluggish, sick as we get older, causes damage that takes years to heal..

HERE the choices are all yours.. NO ONE will tell you to do the right thing.. The right thing is what you decide as being in concert with your working toward a healthier YOU..

If it works for you keep doing it..  however 44 is that age when triglycerides and insulin start to become important. You can choose to ignore them for a while, but in time you will need to be cognizant of the fact that you are (maybe) doing harm..

Welcome, and all the best ..   learn, educate you, and your mind, the body will follow where you lead it.


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Quoted from Goldie
44 is that age when triglycerides and insulin start to become important.


That's a new one for me. Reference, please.  


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I think some fat for me is good, Mother. It's just easy to overdo it. I usually use butter. It's a little tastier than coconut oil.
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Thank you for the advice ruthie and goldie.
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I could do well on the Paleo diet, but I like the carb and legume superfoods that SWAMI gives me.  So I don't follow Paleo.

I don't find that more fat and fewer carbs causes weight gain.  Because I eat the fat, I feel full and stay full longer, so in the end I might eat less.

Besides, I thought only glucose could be converted into body fat.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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grass fed meat has CLA in it, a fat buster and meat also activates higher levels of IAP...a fat busting enzyme


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Yeah, high fat/low carb is b.s.  Many Os have naturally high metabolisms and need carbs & even sugar.  I need fat but not as a source of fuel.
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sahara, take the plunge, get a secretor test......finetunning your choices is what matters.....glad your plan works for you......
fucus has helped my naturally sluggish thyroid, immensely

carbs and sugar don t work for me


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Folks, we're talking about LOW carb, not NO carb.

Some define low carb as fewer than 50 grams of net carbs per day.  You can still have your rice or oat bran and eat it too.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from mikeo
grass fed meat has CLA in it, a fat buster and meat also activates higher levels of IAP...a fat busting enzyme


Thanks for the reminder... I was getting brainwashed by non-btd believers. I know GF beef is better for us, so why am I questioning myself??
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