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Well I think it comes down to much luck.. I only eat Super Diamond and Beneficials .. and only 4-5 neutrals.. Its been difficult for some things.. like my headaches, I am slowly figuring out what else is maybe helping this or that..
What are you eating? what have you been improving so far.. ? .. progress is slow, depending what you are looking for.. look less at sups as food, and then look where you were years ago.. compare some days and IF all that does not get you results then you need to re-evaluate which tiger you are chasing..
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| Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:21pm |
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Maybe I should know this from your posts, but have you done SWAMI? I changed from a Warrior to an Explorer, and I am doing great! How are you feeling now? |
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Any chance you are celiac? |
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What have you done so far?
Maybe you are a Hunter? How where you genotyped?
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Thanks for the responses. That gives me hope.  I try to eat well. Grass-fed meats and organic vegetables. Overall, I feel much better and am thin! Thank you Dr. D!!! But the white lines change very little.  My fingerprints look a lot better and nice and plump if I've been in the sun for a while. D3 doesn't do that! I have both horizontal and vertical lines.  |
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Maybe I should know this from your posts, but have you done SWAMI? I changed from a Warrior to an Explorer, and I am doing great! How are you feeling now?
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what was your intake of aminoacids 
I've taken LOTS of glutamine. I buy it in bulk from vitacost. No luck...  |
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Any chance you are celiac?
I ate wheat throughout my life without major problems... |
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What have you done so far?
Maybe you are a Hunter? How where you genotyped?
Many things! Liver cleanses, gut healing, NAP supplements... Am I the only one who still has white lines? Surely there must be more people on this forum? It just saddens me that Dr. D says it takes a year to get rid of the white lines, but I've been on the diet for years... |
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| Wednesday, June 13, 2012, 3:06am |
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Did someone say that the vertical lines don't count? Eating too much yogurt made my horizontal lines come back after they had disappeared previously.  Yogurt is an avoid for me now, though, on SWAMI and I wasn't surprised. My lines are getting much fainter but are still there. |
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Am I the only one who still has white lines? Surely there must be more people on this forum?
You certainly aren't. I cut out my gluten back when the Genotype Diet book came out (2007). I still have them and the gut integrity issues like sensitivity to milk and egg protein. |
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| Wednesday, June 13, 2012, 5:46am |
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I still have white lines. I am severely gluten intolerant and had IBS through most of my life. I am now having ideal bowel function and only have troubles when I'm under a lot of stress.
My intestines began healing much more quickly after I eliminated all gluten and cow dairy (except for ghee) 4 years ago. My fingerprints were all nearly smooth at the height of my IBS and finally, at last, I'm beginning to see fingerprints emerging once again. There are still 3 that I can't read.
White lines are still there, but less numerous. The vertical lines are not relevant regarding gut health, but I'm not sure what causes them. I suspect hormonal changes with aging. |
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Some of my white lines are still there but a lot of my fingerprints are much clearer. |
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Am I the only one who still has white lines? Surely there must be more people on this forum? It just saddens me that Dr. D says it takes a year to get rid of the white lines, but I've been on the diet for years...
I still have some white lines... My fingerprint ridges have gotten much deeper, but there are still some horizontal lines. I'm still healing other things and removing garbage, so I think the garbage is still annoying the digestive tract enough to keep it from healing completely... |
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No solution? 
Karma, are you still eating wheat? |
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I still have white lines although they have decreased. After 3.5 years on the diet at a high compliancy level, I would have expected them to have reflected more healing. My solution is not to worry about it if you feel you are following your plan. I use how I am feeling as a guide. I check them periodically and as I see some improvements I feel confident I am moving in the right direction but don't really expect them to disappear. I still have plenty of them. Lisa |
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You still have some sort of unresolved autoimmune issue. |
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Tell me exactly what D'Adamo Personalized supplements you have used?
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| Thursday, June 14, 2012, 11:32pm |
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Karma, are you still eating wheat?
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You still have some sort of unresolved autoimmune issue.
Thank you doctor! I just checked autoimmunity on my SWAMI. |
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Tell me exactly what D'Adamo Personalized supplements you have used?
Couple of bottles of Gastro-D, Polyflora, and Live Cell. And the vitamins and minerals (still). |
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| Friday, June 15, 2012, 12:35am |
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Thank you doctor! I just checked autoimmunity on my SWAMI.
I need to do that, too, so I can get rid of what is left of these things once and for all. Thanks for reminding me, Karma!  |
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Well, I had already checked that for allergies, so I guess I just have to be patient! But any allergies I have had are a whole lot better than they were. |
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Thank you doctor! I just checked autoimmunity on my SWAMI.
THAT is a great Idea.. I will do that also.. can not hurt.. Thanks.. I would not have made that -connection from what Dr D said.. good for you.. (and me) ...... I just checked and found that I had checked it already, but I discovered some genharmonic foods that will help that greatly.. I will focus on them.. |
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You still have some sort of unresolved autoimmune issue.
Good to know. I think all of us can use that insight. |
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| Saturday, June 16, 2012, 5:49pm |
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I got totally free of white lines after I started on the GENO diet after several months. But when I started eating Greek yogurt three times a day and more Ezekiel bread, mine came back, though not as bad as before. They are gradually disappearing again since I don't eat gluten at all and certainly no Greek yogurt anymore! |
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Is there ANYONE here who had white lines and now doesn't have any white lines anymore? 
I started GTD in spring 2011; my fingerprints where difficult to read because of all the white lines. Seven months later I redid fingerprints to see if there had been an improvement and my husband said they looked 70% improved and some of my fingerprint were easier to read and so my fingerprints now presented the asymmetrical pattern of the Explorer. I appeared symmetrical when they had not been read properly due to interference from the lines and ridges. If your fingerprints improve, you may well be surprised that the pattern is not what you initially thought. Intrinsia is a very important factor along with the Deflect and Polyflora and of course no gluten. I tried going off of Intrinsia for a few weeks and my intestines were not as relaxed. It is such a soothing supplement for the gastro-intestinal system.  |
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I wish I knew can kind of unresolved autoimmune issue(s) are going on.  Does Lyme disease count? |
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TJ I am not sure that it matters which kind-- they would more or less be treated the same with the shift in foods. |
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TJ I am not sure that it matters which kind-- they would more or less be treated the same with the shift in foods.
My concern is that, at this point, diet isn't enough alone. I'm getting some help from the integrative medicine MD I'm seeing, but I still don't know for sure what's at the root of it. I think that, for any of us who have been doing BTD/GTD for years and still have white lines/leaky gut, more will be required than just changing what we eat. |
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My concern is that, at this point, diet isn't enough alone. I'm getting some help from the integrative medicine MD I'm seeing, but I still don't know for sure what's at the root of it. I think that, for any of us who have been doing BTD/GTD for years and still have white lines/leaky gut, more will be required than just changing what we eat.
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We are what we eat or born with or exposed to - are there any others? |
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My concern is that, at this point, diet isn't enough alone. I'm getting some help from the integrative medicine MD I'm seeing, but I still don't know for sure what's at the root of it. I think that, for any of us who have been doing BTD/GTD for years and still have white lines/leaky gut, more will be required than just changing what we eat.
Using the SWAMI professional version is really what I am talking about. Understanding the controls that it applies to the diet would be key. Spending the money on just seeing Dr. D'Adamo and allowing him to create a plan if someone is struggling to me is the greatest gift one can give one self. I have seen practitioners give loads of supplements and never really fix anything. And I have seen Dr. D tell people that all the stuff they are taking is a waste. I still think that the diet is the key. |
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I still have a few, though mostly vertical ones now, those can be caused by hormone imbalances.
I surely also have autoimmunity, and feel best on a hunteresque diet. I'm not totally sure of my secretor status, as my blood test disagreed with my saliva test, and I'm waiting for another saliva test to come in to see what it says.
Could be another digestive intolerance? Milk, eggs, yeast ... There are a few to check. Even candida can cause similar problems to gluten. |
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TJ, have you tried NMT? It is helping me quite a bit. |
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Melissa, what is NMT? I figure that those digestive intolerances you mentioned are more likely an effect of leaky gut rather than a cause, unless you have a true allergy(?). |
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Am trying to figure out my genotype using the book. Measuring torso as longer then legs and upper longer then lower .Both index fingers longer then right (longer on left then right). Very ecto body type. Was wondering what is most important, though must be torso and leg ratio as that is what key uses. waist to hip ratio is about .73. Tendons are very pronouned as are veins in hands and arms. Had thought was O+ blood type, but a brother just told me he is AB+ and thought Mom was O+, so might check again. Tried finger prints but have such shallow prints and so many lines very difficult to make out. Water and oil seems to help make more defined. When went for a finerprint test for a job at a school district, it took them 3 tries to get my prints. If do the basic search it sounds like could be a gaterer,teacher,explorer, or warrior. so added up strength test: teacher- 24 ,gatherer-5,explorer-17,nomad-19,(hunter-25) this is confusing to try to find out, but interesting. Lynn D |
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Thank you for the welcome! I was told I was an O+, so might go on that assumption till do a test. If my father was AB and mother was O then I would be also AB? Will look thru her last records from heart hospital and check with other brother.
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