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Patty H
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In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.


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There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...
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The models in the Genotype book are composites of different blood types.  For example, only O's can be Hunters, but the Gatherer diet in the book is a compromise between O's and B's.  So naturally, the Explorer diet moved to SWAMI would have to make the most changes.
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Quoted from Patty H
In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.
This was my observation/question a few days ago... They can't have really imo  
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In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.

My daughter is a SWAMI Explorer.  
Obviously, she has type A meat non-choices.  
She has a gluten intolerance, so wheat, oat, barley are all out.  Corn is a total avoid as well.  
She only has 4 superfood dairy choices and 7 neutral choices - of course one of those is Indian buffalo milk...  
She has never liked coffee and sugar is way over-rated for her...

Hope this helps your analysis...


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In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.


If following the GenoType book there is no difference in the explorer diet plan by ABO type.

If you are an explorer, you are an explorer and blood type makes no difference to the diet.




If following SWAMI your epigenetic superfamily is only one of many factors considered in determining a diet plan. ABO blood type is one of the other factors considered in developing a plan for a particular individual.  


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There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...


Some A's would have peanuts on the superfood list.


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my swaqmi recommendations are nealy the same then lr4yt ...and I'm nothing but pleased about it...

I remember when I was the very first A2B nonnie here   


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Some A's would have peanuts on the superfood list.


It is a bit confusing, since some of the foods would seem to be avoids in the BTD for an A, such as beef and lamb for instance.

I re-read both my SWAMI from Dr. Nash and the new SWAMI I ran as an Explorer.  They are strikingly similar, with a few things that changed like chicken and chicken eggs going from a Hunter superfood to an Explorer neutral food.  One of the things I never noticed before on my SWAMI is that it states that the diet is a synthesis of both GTD and BTD food values.


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chicken as an O'explorer neutral food but an avoid for this A2B nonnie  explorer;) ....


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chicken as an O'explorer neutral food but an avoid for this A2B nonnie  explorer;) ....


So it appears that the Explorer diet is different when it comes to different blood types, thus the synthesis of GTD and BTD.


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yup so it is....


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So it appears that the Explorer diet is different when it comes to different blood types, thus the synthesis of GTD and BTD.

The book Explorer Diet is constant.  It is only the SWAMI diet, that blends Explorer genotype family base with BTD that creates the specificity.

Of course, SWAMI does this for everyone - it seems to make the most difference for Explorer genotypes as the book diet makes significant restrictions on all due to all blood types being included.


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btw I think all swami recommendations for all types are different...no-one is the same nor lives the same life nor has same epigenetic specifications...so far it's normal that every recommendation will be different ... not only for us the explorers...


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Quoted from Johnny B.
There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...


That sample SWAMI isn't meant to be used for anybody's food values. They clicked on boxes at random to generate the sample report. The only point of the sample SWAMI is to show people what the SWAMI diet report looks like, and to get an idea of what foods are tested for SWAMI. Nobody is meant to actually use that publically available printout. If there's ever a woman actually named Jane Q Public, she'd need her own individualized SWAMI, and it would likely vary widely from the sample report.

To answer the original question:

If you're following the diet right from the Genotype Diet book, then all Explorers have the exact same food list, regardless of blood type.

However, when you run a SWAMI, you bet a blend of  GTD and BTD food values. The SWAMI of an A Explorer would likely vary widely from the SWAMI of an O Explorer.

Since the SWAMI food list is likely to vary widely from the Explorer "book diet", Explorers are likely to benefit greatly from SWAMI rather than using the diet straight from the book.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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My Swami is quite different from my wife's Swami - especially noticeable in terms of meat, but the differences run throught all food categories.

Paul                                                 Char
O Rh -ve Non-sectreting Explorer      A Rh +ve Secreting Explorer

She has a higher Explorer percentage, so she is less individualist in her Explorerness.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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My Swami is quite different from my wife's Swami - especially noticeable in terms of meat, but the differences run throught all food categories.

Paul                                                 Char
O Rh -ve Non-sectreting Explorer      A Rh +ve Secreting Explorer

She has a higher Explorer percentage, so she is less individualist in her Explorerness.


This is confusing to me - why bother with the Explorer genotype at all, then.  It seems like Explorers should be broken up into different genotypes, no?


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perhaps am I in need of further lookings in that *gentotype booklet* ..........

I don't know but I always got upset while lurking into this book but was very amazed while getting my swami recommendations.... but this perhaps while having been voyaging from teacher to warrior to nomad et enfin last but not least got the right reply to come along with explorer diet ...aaaahhh yesss .....


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Swami is important for an Explorer since we’re the leftovers.  I did well on the BTD.  I didn’t do well on the Explorer diet.  I do great on my Swami.


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This is confusing to me - why bother with the Explorer genotype at all, then.  It seems like Explorers should be broken up into different genotypes, no?


As they say, that would be another whole series of books for an increasingly smaller audience.  

SWAMI is the better compromise in my view.
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I am not an expert, but the book guidelines for explorer work great for me.

Explorers should eat red meats that are lean in lesser amounts than a hunter or gatherer (like 3 times a week).  Fatty meats should be avoided.

Little to no dairy (even cultured yogurts).  

Plenty of plant based foods, recommended grains, recommended poultry, seafood, and avoid the common toxins like caffeine and alcohol or not use them on a regular basis.

Exercise should be intense enough to sweat and leave you feeling like you did something and should be about 4 to 5 times a week.

To me, the BTD and GTD are two different methods.  A explorers usually do not do well with a BTD A diet, for example.
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Quoted from Johnny B.
There are many similarities with a few adjustments.  Just look at the example:
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Type A's would have peanuts on the superfood list...


That's an O superfoods list, Johnny. The peanuts may not necessarily be a superfood for the A Explorer because of 2 reasons: its the bitter skins on the peanut that the A needs to prevent cancer,not the nut itself and - an A Explorer will not be able to digest very many peanuts well - especially in the evening or at night, when their stomach acid is at a low level. The Genotype diet also explains for Explorers to consider peanuts a "black dot" item to be eliminated completely for the first 6 months.


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In other words, an Explorer can be any ABO type.  Does an O type Explorer have the same diet as an A type, B type and AB type Explorer in general?  Particularly on the big things like wheat, dairy, corn, sugar and coffee.


Consult your secretor status; you will be in general a lot more sensitive as a Nonnie. As an A Nonnie Explorer I can't do corn, can do limited amounts of sugar, only do limited amounts of decaf coffee, very limited dairy (I'm not a B), and use spelt wheat instead of commercial bread wheat because bread wheat's chromosomes make me sick.


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If following the GenoType book there is no difference in the explorer diet plan by ABO type.

If you are an explorer, you are an explorer and blood type makes no difference to the diet.




If following SWAMI your epigenetic superfamily is only one of many factors considered in determining a diet plan. ABO blood type is one of the other factors considered in developing a plan for a particular individual.  


And its a very important step in customizing; I had to work my way back from the Genotype diet to the BTD for A's to discover that I had to eliminate Beef under red meats. As soon as I did I was no longer an active bulimic, and no longer vomiting! That is why I encourage peeps to start out with BTD to get their footing correctly, then progress to Genotype.


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Swami is important for an Explorer since we’re the leftovers.  I did well on the BTD.  I didn’t do well on the Explorer diet.  I do great on my Swami.


I'm not a leftover! We're "Progressionists" - first and foremost, with exraordinary healing capacities.  


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