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cajun
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Heavens no! There is sooooo much information in both the er4YT and Genotype books that, in my opinion, everyone should read, THEN get a SWAMI done!
Dr.D keeps adding info, updating and making it all more individual, thank goodness!
Check out the thread on Genotype percentage poll.


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I believe Dr. D said most of us will not "fit" into just one genotype, that we may be two or more overlapping.


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There are No "Combination Types"...


Aryurveda, for example, has three major types of people -Air, Fire, and Earth - and then four combination (Air-Fire,Fire-Earth, Air-Earth and a triple type that partakes of all three).

The GenoTypes don't work like like that. Instead, they represent coherent wholes, six self-sustaining efforts to solve problems of survival that our ancestors encountered.

...
I'm not saying there's never been a seventh GenoType-or that there may not be an eight, or ninth as humans continue to live on the this earth. But right now, human life as we know it is pretty much defined by these six. How do I know this? Well, when developing the GenoTypes, after running the numbers the numbers for the first six, the characteristics simply began to repeat themselves. And just as you can't take the big wheels off your giant tractor and fit them onto your smaller model, so you cannot have combinations among the GenoTypes, even though many of them have common features.


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Well that seems to leave most of us "combination types" nowhere to go but to get swami???
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So does swami give you a diet that is a mix of genotypes? Or does it show you which is majority and give you that diet? I want to follow the genotype diet, but cannot commit to such change with doubts in my mind about whether I am doing the right thing for my health, really want a diet that suits me, part hunter, part gatherers and a little explorer...
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swami is the right thing for your health, plus it is personalized to boot


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JAkc,
welcome!
tell us your blood type


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How can I test my secretor status from UAE?
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try ordering from the UK distributor

http://www.right4eu.com/
under diagnostic kits


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So does swami give you a diet that is a mix of genotypes? Or does it show you which is majority and give you that diet?

SWAMI takes all of your information, tells you what percentage of your characteristics match your majority Genotype, and provides a diet that takes all of your characteristics into account.  There are some 200 variables accounted for, so it is really difficult to say exactly how all are used for each individual.

All I know is that it is a phenomenal piece of software that we are able to use for a very nominal price.


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Unfortunetly a lot of us bought the book.  So does this mean that Dr.D does not find the genotype book useful any more?

All of the information in the books, even the _ _ 4YT books is still valid.  It is wonderful background information for all of us.  SWAMI incorporates all of this information and much more to make a much more complex diet than one could ever put into a consumer book.


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If I do swami without secretor status, can it still be accurate? And if I later do secretor test, can I update swami?
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Yes and yes.


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So does swami give you a diet that is a mix of genotypes?


No.

It starts with a diet for one Epigenotype Superfamily (which may be the same or different than the GenoType calculated using the book) and the Blood Type diet for your type.

It then looks at you personal characteristics and the health needs that you indicate on your data intake form and changes the rating of foods as needed to meet your specific needs.

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...really want a diet that suits me, part hunter, part gatherers and a little explorer...


SWAMI does not take a little from this GenoType over here and a little bit from that GenoType over here, and a pinch from this GenoType here and mash them all together. That is not how it works.

Instead it looks at your personal characteristics and uses those to customize the ratings foods for you whether or not the foods are appropriate for other people of your GenoType (or different GenoTypes).  




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If I do swami without secretor status, can it still be accurate? And if I later do secretor test, can I update swami?


bloodtypediet@gmail.com
is who to contact

you are living in the uk, right?

don t know why I thought you were in Lebanon

I am imagining things!


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I live in Dubai, I said middle east, you thought Lebanon...
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C-sharp,
I will find (and report) where I read about "overlapping."
It had to be in either the ER4YT or original Genotype book and I just lent my copies
to my yoga teacher.
I appreciate your information and quotes.
I know from MY swami..ran as 38%explorer and as 41% teacher, that both diets have  several common features.


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I am sure I read it too...
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Quoted from cajun
I will find (and report) where I read about "overlapping."
It had to be in either the ER4YT or original Genotype book and I just lent my copies
to my yoga teacher.
I appreciate your information and quotes.
I know from MY swami..ran as 38%explorer and as 41% teacher, that both diets have  several common features.

Page 104 of The Genotype Diet - "There are no combination types: You belong to one Genotype and one Genotype only.  The Genotypes are a complete set of solutions; out or the six possibilities, only one will work the best for you."

I know some people run SWAMI several times with different input and get different results.  This is sometimes due to input errors or changes as they heal, etc.  You have to pick the best choice and go with it to get the best result for you.


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I found it! It is in my SWAMI report under Results/ the teacher Genotype/what makes you a GT3 teacher......

"The six GenoTypes described by Dr. D'Adamo are very broad characterizations; no individual is purely one Genotype. Since many of the GenoType characteristics overlap, most people will have aspects of at least two or more Genotypes. However SWAMI Xpress uses powerful statistical tools to calculate which single Genotype best captures the highest degree of your unique variation.
Your results: 41% of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT3 Teacher profile."

My explorer % was either 38% or 40% each time I ran it. I follow teacher since it was a little higher. Again, individual. Many encapsulate 50% and more of their "Genotype" so I think of mine as an overlapping of teacher and explorer traits. I do not follow 2 diets or blend of....but if you saw my explorer swami and my teacher swami.. ...so many items in common! I follow my teacher swami and am very happy with it.


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I found it! "The six GenoTypes described by Dr. D'Adamo are very broad characterizations; no individual is purely one Genotype. Since many of the GenoType characteristics overlap, most people will have aspects of at least two or more Genotypes. However SWAMI Xpress uses powerful statistical tools to calculate which single Genotype best captures the highest degree of your unique variation.
Well done!! I knew I had read this too (obviously not in swami but definitely elsewhere)
Incidentally the more I study of things like salicylates & now oxalates, the more I see sense in why Explorers have the food list they do & the more I think I am SUCH a combination but with definite leanings toward Explorer

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Thanks Possum!
Look at your swami report around page 5..it is probably there under the results.(Of course it will say your genotype but you know....
I still think I read something like it in the ER4YT book.
When I saw your "expluntherer" I completely identified!
I knowI "associate" most with the teacher profile. I also notice many "explorerness" in myself! Just saying.


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Thanks Possum! You're sooo welcome cajun & nooo thankyou!!!
Look at your swami report around page 5..it is probably there under the results.(Of course it will say your genotype but you know....
I still think I read something like it in the ER4YT book.
When I saw your "expluntherer" I completely identified!
I knowI "associate" most with the teacher profile. I also notice many "explorerness" in myself! Just saying.
Ummm I never did get swami I was all but committed back in late 2010 but tbh with all my weirdness, I was unsure if it would even cover/address things like reactions to sulphites, salicylates, oxalates....
Then add the distance from family & uncertainty as to whether Mum would even be able to give me enough background info (she is not - shall we say as lucid these days & her memory is going)
Anyway I also had so much going on reaction/allergy wise at work & was so brain fogged from it all, I put it very much on the backburner I was shocked to see how much time had gone by tbh but I think I am just plain chicken that it won't be able to sort me out
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Possum,
Do you have any of Dr. D'Adamo's books? Have you done any measurements to see where your strengths/weaknesses are? Do you follow the O diet? Just from what you have written I would think you have some "explorerness"!   
I love to read your comments...you have a great sense of humor!


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Possum,
Do you have any of Dr. D'Adamo's books? Have you done any measurements to see where your strengths/weaknesses are? Do you follow the O diet? Just from what you have written I would think you have some "explorerness"!   
I love to read your comments...you have a great sense of humor!
Aww thanks so much Cajun - I have always enjoyed reading your comments, info etc!! That really meant such a lot to hear, especially what I am going through at the moment (& being an Aussie taking risks with a different sense of humour??!!)

I was/am following the O BTD & strayed/jumped into GTD would you believe, with the sole thought that I could maybe eat more "carb type foods" (whose crunchiness I missed) I had all the measurements done & the only thing that really seemed to separate my "Explorerweirdness" (from Gatherer), is just my nonniehood??!!

On that matter, I am not convinced Pathways lab didn't stuff that up tbh, as they lost my sample for weeks (in summer), sent me a new kit, then found & tested the original I don't trust it & had no reply when I emailed re this (lab has since closed) Waste of $50 imo But either way Explorer vs nonnie = similar issues & hey maybe I am actually just a double dose

Anyway recently I went through the entire list of "oxalate" foods & found I could tick "having reactions to" on every single one of the medium & high/very high foods!! Funnily enough (or not) they are pretty well all on the explorer list of avoids...

So I am now going to try to follow Explorer to a T (avoiding anything beneficial, that is clearly high oxalate related - ie sardines for one I need to especially stoke up on the diamonds etc, rather than simply limping by, "avoiding the avoids" & getting confused between those avoids which are SF/Bennies on the Gatherer diet (which I have tried to do to date)?!

Sometimes when I have got overwhelmed (or ran out of time after fixing Mr Hungry Hunter's food first - who skips brekky & lunch too often) I have snacked on nuts &/or dark chocolate to tied me over & then not been motivated/hungry enough to eat properly ) Interestingly enough (but not surprisingly) both are high-very high in oxalates
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P.S. I thought about apologizing for hijacking, but I figure this might help answer anyone else's questions?

Also wanted to add, in case I came across as negative re the ER4YT (which I am so not) - Dr D obviously got it right re the Explorer stuff - as the more I study, the more I find that salicylates, sulphites, sulphur, environmental reactions, oxalates etc etc are the things that come strongly in to play for Explorers...

If anything, I think any confusion/problems that comes from this - for Explorers (or maybe it is just me) could be the fact that unfortunately Explorers can be ANY BT's But I guess all those queries should get answered with Swami??  
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