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Christopher1
Friday, January 27, 2012, 4:56am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I've read some people's posts saying that protein is stimulating, which is why you should eat it in the morning. Carbs should be eaten at night, because they are relaxing. Is this only true for blood type O? Aren't carbs fattening for Os at night?
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Well I don´t know if carbs as such are fatting at night.
I don´t do well with lots of carbs from fruit sugar, starches and grains so I keep mine rather low.

IF I eat carbs in the morning- my blodsugar gets unstable and i crave carbs the rest of the day.
I dind my self much more happy with some fat and protein in the morning
Eggs, meat and veggies or some full fat high protein yoghurt.

IF I  eat grains etc I always do it at night- since I get really sleepy and slightly brain fogged from it.
I know other O´s who feel the same.


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Well I don´t know if carbs as such are fatting at night.
I don´t do well with lots of carbs from fruit sugar, starches and grains so I keep mine rather low.

IF I eat carbs in the morning- my blodsugar gets unstable and i crave carbs the rest of the day.
I dind my self much more happy with some fat and protein in the morning
Eggs, meat and veggies or some full fat high protein yoghurt.

IF I  eat grains etc I always do it at night- since I get really sleepy and slightly brain fogged from it.
I know other O´s who feel the same.


I spend a lot of time in ketosis, but have added back significant carbohydrate as my last meal of the day. I seem to need much less sleep now (6 hours and I'm refreshed). Nice but I don't know why.
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Christopher1
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When my diet was just protein and fat I needed much more sleep (8 hours is a must). Eating lots of protein before bed also is a good way to guarantee insomnia for me. My body temperature skyrockets and I have too much energy.
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Quoted from Christopher1

I spend a lot of time in ketosis, but have added back significant carbohydrate as my last meal of the day. I seem to need much less sleep now (6 hours and I'm refreshed). Nice but I don't know why.


Perhaps your blood sugar spikes a bit while you sleep and then plummets.  So the adrenals release cortisol to raise the blood sugar.  If you're unable to make enough cortisol, then adrenaline might be produced instead.  But that's also signal to your body to wake up and protect yourself from the predatory animal that it thinks invaded your cave.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Me too, I feel sleepy after eating fruits or something sweet.
So, maybe I should eat this food in evenings or don't eat at all.


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I eat all my food at night because daytime is stimulating and requires no food & night time is relaxing and a better time to eat.
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My mid-day meal is meat and non-starchy vegetables.  
In the evening I'll have fish with vegetables and finish up with a big baked sweet potato and ghee.  It's relaxing and makes me drowsy.



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Victoria, I always assumed sleepy/ drowsy was a bad sign, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong! When I eat sweet potatos I get sleepy too, I always assumed that was some type of intolerance. I'd love to eat them and fall off to a long night sleep. They almost feel like they drug me into sleep.


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It's a good kind of relaxed drowsy.  Just the way I want to feel in the evening.  



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Quoted from Victoria
It's a good kind of relaxed drowsy.  Just the way I want to feel in the evening.  


Same here. Protein is insomnia for me. Carbs is nice and mellow.
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Someone posted recently that carbs at night promote Serotonin (I believe).  Maybe it was Mikeo or Tom Martens.  



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Carbs at night certainly won't make you fat.... of course unless you get up and have carbs for breakfast also.  Insulin....................
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Always thought that one should eat the protein in the eve because it is a lighter/ easier digested meal that doesn't make you feel heavy/ sleepy/ full  

My Naturopathic Doctor changed my eating to this pattern...

Downside, if dinner is too early I do want a supper as well, because I feel hungry again  
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Sometimes I do really well wuth protein in the a.m. and other times, I do terribly- like total lethargy.

Same with compliant carbs- if eaten in the a.m. I sometimes get total brain fog. The body seems to go through cycles.
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I did not realize the protein I eat at night was what was keeping me awake! I try not to eat carbs at night because I tend to wake up after only 6 hours and I am starving.


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When one eats only one meal a day (as very personal prefference) then all things change as that is not 'normal' for most here who try to eat more according to the books suggestions. Reactions to foods will differ just because of the individualized eating patterns, as one then combines all food groups at the same time, making some items be digested within miutes, while other foods need hours.      

For those who do eat several times a day it might indeed be interesting to experiment.  I think the type of carb makes all the difference.. Rice or fruit seem to have a different effect, and might best be tested at different times .  Sweet potatoes and or some dessert like choc might make a difference also at different times.  The idea of the following is interesting, and might explain why some seem to wake early..

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Perhaps your blood sugar spikes a bit while you sleep and then plummets.  So the adrenals release cortisol to raise the blood sugar.  If you're unable to make enough cortisol, then adrenaline might be produced instead.  But that's also signal to your body to wake up and protect yourself from the predatory animal that it thinks invaded your cave.
  

I will experiment and see.. good question..

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Someone posted recently that carbs at night promote Serotonin (I believe).  Maybe it was Mikeo or Tom Martens.


That is why for some, milk before sleep might work real well..  

I will eat eggs tonight after dinner and see what will happen.


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This is not just about weight loss, but sleep carcadian rythems as well.


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Eating one time a day was "normal" for thousands of years.  Meal frequency is an *invention* of the U.S. food industry.  
Other than fruit which needs to be eaten alone and allowed to digest 20-30 minutes (up to an hour for bananas), food digests perfectly well when eaten together.  Eating frequent meals for "better" digestion just means more frequent insulin spikes (since all food except fats causes insulin secretion), cravings, and days filled food struggles.

I just read Fast 5 over the weekend, explains in less than 100 pages why eating in a 5 hour window is beneficial.  Newsclip about:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/special_reports&id=7357401

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When one eats only one meal a day (as very personal prefference) then all things change as that is not 'normal' for most here who try to eat more according to the books suggestions. Reactions to foods will differ just because of the individualized eating patterns, as one then combines all food groups at the same time, making some items be digested within miutes, while other foods need hours.      

For those who do eat several times a day it might indeed be interesting to experiment.  I think the type of carb makes all the difference.. Rice or fruit seem to have a different effect, and might best be tested at different times .  Sweet potatoes and or some dessert like choc might make a difference also at different times.  The idea of the following is interesting, and might explain why some seem to wake early..

  

I will experiment and see.. good question..



That is why for some, milk before sleep might work real well..  

I will eat eggs tonight after dinner and see what will happen.


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We're all individuals. Eating one or two large meals a day works great for some; eating more frequent smaller meals works well for others. I recall reading about how Native American tribes would keep a pot of stew bubbling over a fire all day, and snacking from it as needed- at least the women did, and the men did when they weren't off hunting. Women gathering food (plants plus small animals such as grubs) would also snack as they went along. One for my mouth, 2 for the basket. It was mostly the hunters who ate less often and fasted in the daytime.

The U.S. food industry is certainly making people less healthy, but they didn't "invent" frequent meals.  That idea has been around since the beginning of time (do you realize how often newborn humans need to nurse? And the effect of all that milk-making on most lactating mothers?)


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We're all individuals. Eating one or two large meals a day works great for some; eating more frequent smaller meals works well for others. I recall reading about how Native American tribes would keep a pot of stew bubbling over a fire all day, and snacking from it as needed- at least the women did, and the men did when they weren't off hunting. Women gathering food (plants plus small animals such as grubs) would also snack as they went along. One for my mouth, 2 for the basket. It was mostly the hunters who ate less often and fasted in the daytime.

The U.S. food industry is certainly making people less healthy, but they didn't "invent" frequent meals.  That idea has been around since the beginning of time (do you realize how often newborn humans need to nurse? And the effect of all that milk-making on most lactating mothers?)


I agree Ruthie. Great point regarding the Tribes. I typically eat a nice breakfast of protein and veggies, and can go 8 hours before I eat again... or if I skip breakfast, I will have a good lunch and light dinner...   Actually, I am not a big fan of a heavy lunch.

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So for those of you who eat 2 meals /day, when do you eat fruit?  With or without your meal?  Thanks.


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I have fruit at night.
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