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Christopher1
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Do people talk about mycotoxins in food in this community? They seem to be present in food unfortunately, including ground beef, nuts, coffee, even spirulina. It's a big problem and a major reason why people feel sluggish.  It could be very important for hypersensitive people especially. I heard charcoal can really help with mycotoxins. Maybe that's why I have so much gas?

What does this diet/lifestyle say about mycotoxins? Is there a better way to deal with those toxins besides charcoal?
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Do people talk about mycotoxins in food in this community? They seem to be present in food unfortunately, including ground beef, nuts, coffee, even spirulina. It's a big problem and a major reason why people feel sluggish.  It could be very important for hypersensitive people especially. I heard charcoal can really help with mycotoxins. Maybe that's why I have so much gas?

What does this diet/lifestyle say about mycotoxins? Is there a better way to deal with those toxins besides charcoal?


Yes! Copy and paste mycotoxins in "Search Site" at the top of the page. I hate mold!


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Quoted from Christopher1
Do people talk about mycotoxins in food in this community? They seem to be present in food unfortunately, including ground beef, nuts, coffee, even spirulina. It's a big problem and a major reason why people feel sluggish.  It could be very important for hypersensitive people especially. I heard charcoal can really help with mycotoxins. Maybe that's why I have so much gas?

What does this diet/lifestyle say about mycotoxins? Is there a better way to deal with those toxins besides charcoal?


If you have gas, you are eating too much sugar (one way or another) or you have a food intolerance often dairy(or multiple food intolerances), in my opinion, perhaps exaggerated by a stomach or intestinal issue.


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I have found It's fairly easy to sort out a gas however that then sets off a series of things you have to correct, including constipation, but once you have addresed them all you end up eating correctly for your type lol

You may need to go be careful of the choices you make initially on your food lists and you may well find it a lot easier with a few of Dr D's supplements. I do.

and you may have to stop using other products like tooth paste, skin creams etc

But so far i have managed to correct most (if not all) problems this way. the difference is the time it takes.

If a person just gets on with it and is compliant and listens to me they are on there way very quickly.

If they don't then it takes longer, but eventually when they listen and do the work and stop using excuses or trying to be clever, then it all falls into place very quickly.

bar none so far. oxo


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Policychecker, "trying to be clever?" What???? Mycotoxins are beasts!! I think most people are anxious to do what Dr. D. has to say if at all possible. Sometimes foods just don't "fit." I have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt, partly because, as Dr. D. has progressed in his research, he has supported what I have discovered for myself as an individual! This is such an individual effort on the part of each of us to apply and gain the benefits of a program that Dr. D. has spent many YEARS developing. The beauty of it is that we can see some results sooner rather than later, but others come later rather than sooner! Even as Dr. D.'s work has progressed, so have we! Another beauty is sharing on this forum, that he has established, the ups and downs of our progression. Have a great day, Policychecker!  


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Policychecker, "trying to be clever?" What???? Mycotoxins are beasts!! I think most people are anxious to do what Dr. D. has to say if at all possible. Sometimes foods just don't "fit." I have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt, partly because, as Dr. D. has progressed in his research, he has supported what I have discovered for myself as an individual! This is such an individual effort on the part of each of us to apply and gain the benefits of a program that Dr. D. has spent many YEARS developing. The beauty of it is that we can see some results sooner rather than later, but others come later rather than sooner! Even as Dr. D.'s work has progressed, so have we! Another beauty is sharing on this forum, that he has established, the ups and downs of our progression. Have a great day, Policychecker!  


Does SWAMI take into consideration mycotoxins?
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I have found It's fairly easy to sort out a gas however that then sets off a series of things you have to correct, including constipation, but once you have addresed them all you end up eating correctly for your type lol

You may need to go be careful of the choices you make initially on your food lists and you may well find it a lot easier with a few of Dr D's supplements. I do.

and you may have to stop using other products like tooth paste, skin creams etc

But so far i have managed to correct most (if not all) problems this way. the difference is the time it takes.

If a person just gets on with it and is compliant and listens to me they are on there way very quickly.

If they don't then it takes longer, but eventually when they listen and do the work and stop using excuses or trying to be clever, then it all falls into place very quickly.

bar none so far. oxo


Thank you for the information. I actually don't eat any sugar/fruits and dairy. Garlic made it worse, and Lola told me to cut that out. It's made a big difference. Thank you Lola.
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Policychecker, "trying to be clever?" What???? Mycotoxins are beasts!! I think most people are anxious to do what Dr. D. has to say if at all possible. Sometimes foods just don't "fit." I have proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt, partly because, as Dr. D. has progressed in his research, he has supported what I have discovered for myself as an individual! This is such an individual effort on the part of each of us to apply and gain the benefits of a program that Dr. D. has spent many YEARS developing. The beauty of it is that we can see some results sooner rather than later, but others come later rather than sooner! Even as Dr. D.'s work has progressed, so have we! Another beauty is sharing on this forum, that he has established, the ups and downs of our progression. Have a great day, Policychecker!  


I agree. Mycotoxins are beasts!
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Does SWAMI take into consideration mycotoxins?


SWAMI takes about 100 different things into account for each food. I think mycotoxins is one of them.

Some individuals are more sensitive to mycotoxins than others. Based on the data you enter, SWAMI will decide to give certain nutrients moderate or strong emphasis or de-ephasis. If you go to a SWAMI practitioner (instead of using the at-home version) you can ask the practitioner to manually set it up to de-emphasize mycotoxins.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Christopher, I hope you are able to at least try the Detox that Lola recommended. When I'm bothered about the problems with non-fresh organic veggies and other foods hiding these beasts, I consume all the turmeric/curcumin I can, but that may not work for you since you are an O-type. Besides, I happen to love the stuff, but you may not!  


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Great post, Ruthie!


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Can you read ?? my post relates to the gas side of things!

and the trying to be clever relates to a few people I have tried to help and even they eventually "get It" not the original poster of this thread - for goodness sake.

unbelievable how that's all you can get from my post.

and sugar means not only fruit and but grains, vegetables as well including garlic and onions, they are called fodmaps. and how they relate to GAS!

I sometimes don't know why I bother trying to help some people.


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I sometimes don't know why I bother trying to help some people.


Because you're a good man PC.

Remember that there are many more lurkers than posters on the forums. Your posts are helping lots of people, even if the individual you're tailoring your answer to isn't one of them.


Ruth, Single Mother to 20 yo  O- Leah , 18 yo O- Hannah, and  13 yo B+ Jack


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Thank you for the information. I actually don't eat any sugar/fruits and dairy. Garlic made it worse, and Lola told me to cut that out. It's made a big difference. Thank you Lola.

If stopping garlic made such a difference, you MAY have a fructose problem. in which case it would be worthwhile looking at FODMAPs so you better understand all the other places "sugar" can come from.

For example sorbitol in toothpaste to name just one thing people don't think of.



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True ruthie lol oxo


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Can you read ?? my post relates to the gas side of things!

and the trying to be clever relates to a few people I have tried to help and even they eventually "get It" not the original poster of this thread - for goodness sake.

unbelievable how that's all you can get from my post.

and sugar means not only fruit and but grains, vegetables as well including garlic and onions, they are called fodmaps. and how they relate to GAS!

I sometimes don't know why I bother trying to help some people.


Sorry to offend you. I didn't know fodmaps were sugars. I assumed vegetables in general didn't contain any sugar. Thanks for the help!
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All plant foods contain carbohydrates, which the body breaks down into sugars during digestion. Fiber is long-chain carbohydrates that humans lack the enzymes to digest, so they pass through undigested. Sugars are short-chain carbs that break down very quickly (within minutes) and starches can take a few hours to digest.

Different kinds of carbs break down differently in our digestive tracts, using different enzymes and breaking down into different sugars. Some people lack certain enzymes, or for other reasons have trouble with specific kinds of vegetable carbs. If you've been having gas or other GI problems, it's worth it to look into which foods contain harder-to-digest carbs. The low FODMAP diet (I forget what the acronym stands for) is one way to try and improve digestion.


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I always forget too Ruthie - FODMAPS means -
Fermentable Oligosaccharides, Disaccharides, Monosaccharides and Polyols...are the things to avoid...
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fructose, lactose, sorbitol, mannitol, fructans FOS found in wheat rye onions garlic and galacto GOS found in legumes like chickpea, lentil, pistachio nuts,.


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Hey PC - do you have any idea where blackcurrants are on this list?
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Thanks C_sharp but I meant in the fodmap or other list
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Hey PC - do you have any idea where blackcurrants are on this list?


Blackcurrants never made it on to my safe list, so either they were not tested or they were a high fodmap food. so without checking my records (back then they were on paper) i can't be sure.

They are however on Emily's list of food to be reintroduced in the summer. I have arranges access to some fresh bushes and have arranged cuttings for white, red and black currents, to be planted in the garden too if they are okay for emily i will order the pink one. since "currants" are a beneficial on swami for Emily.

I'm hoping her tummy is sufficiently healed to now have at least a small portion from time to time so that the variety of her foods is increased, eventually to a full beneficial list and possibly eventually to a full neutral list on her swami. going well so far.

although a few errors along the way, we introduced a sea vegetable today (too big a portion and got some negative results, although Emily loved them, had some positive effects though for me lol


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Compared to other fruit black currants are relatively low in fructose


Black currants and black currant products will grow a variety of mycotoxins.


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