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Sahara
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Support from individuals who are thinking about improving and maintaining good health!
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Quoted from Eric
I could use a hug.  And a quarter million bucks.  


Here's your hug, Eric (((((HUGS)))))!  You are on your own regarding the quarter million bucks  


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What do Hunters need most when it comes to support?


I wonder...
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I do not know in your end of the world... In mine, there is so much interference of smells from wheat based baked goods it scares pray away  
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I need support with exercise this time of year.  I love exercising outside in the spring, summer and fall, but I do not love exercising outside in the winter.  Plus I injured my ankles and need to do non-weight bearing exercise.  I am finding it difficult to maintain an exercise routine given these issues.

I have also fallen off the coffee wagon.  I'm ok with that now.  I only drink one large cup in the morning and I drink it black.  I don't have blood sugar issues, so I am not worried about that, but with the combination of not exercising, drinking coffee and the holidays, plus the stress of personal/professional stuff going on, it has been a bad couple of weeks for me.  

Right now I plan to start back up again on Monday, but realistically it may be better for me to give myself permission to slack off until the new year.


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I am wondering how much protein do you guys tend to eat.  And how much red meat imperticularly?  I definetly eat my body weight in grams a day and I love lean red meat.  Med rare steak is on the menu daily... sometimes a couple of times a day.


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That's an awful lot of deer!


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That's an awful lot of deer!


Hah that was funny
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I need support with exercise this time of year.  I love exercising outside in the spring, summer and fall, but I do not love exercising outside in the winter.  Plus I injured my ankles and need to do non-weight bearing exercise.  I am finding it difficult to maintain an exercise routine given these issues.

I have also fallen off the coffee wagon.  I'm ok with that now.  I only drink one large cup in the morning and I drink it black.  I don't have blood sugar issues, so I am not worried about that, but with the combination of not exercising, drinking coffee and the holidays, plus the stress of personal/professional stuff going on, it has been a bad couple of weeks for me.  

Right now I plan to start back up again on Monday, but realistically it may be better for me to give myself permission to slack off until the new year.


Patty

No worries, the BTD diet for 80%. You have much going on, so just take it one day at a time.

However, I  know this is easier said than done

Hope you feel better soon!
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I am wondering how much protein do you guys tend to eat.  And how much red meat imperticularly?  I definetly eat my body weight in grams a day and I love lean red meat.  Med rare steak is on the menu daily... sometimes a couple of times a day.


Hi
I think it depends on if you are working out and what is your activity level? I used to always ask how much protein to eat, compare to others, but I think we are all so different.

I eat alot of protein and I seem to be ok with this. Also, if you are not balancing it with other sources of nutrients then you may eat more protein than required. just some thoughts for you.
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akolley-I think the best policy is listening to your body-a long time ago when it was a question answer board. a very wonderful lady (I think it was Cocky ? told me listen to your body. There are days I devour much more meat than recommended on my SWAMIxpress, and sometimes It is the only thing I can stand to eat because I am sick and nauseous. But like I said the last doc visit said I have great numbers no probs with LDL/HDL ration or triglycerides and she wished all her patients were like me in the numbers sense.

Patty H-I can understand with CFS I get knocked down and it is really hard. I am working thorugh that now. Start slowly be gentle with yourself and your body will respond kindly.
I have found that having an exercise minded site helps too. I use Bodybuilding.com and not everyone there is into bodybuilding some are just there to get healthier for their kids. Me I want to go back to bodybuilding-the lifestyle and diet are about the same as the BTD/GTD that I have now. Just I am lacking somewhat in the exercise component. But we will soon populate our farm with critters, so i really will not ahve  choice about moving at all. Sleet, hail, rain or snow-the animals have to eat.

Good luck to you all.

Eric-{{{{hugs}}}}, sorry no money got a missionary going out soon.


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Thanks for the suggestions.  I tend to do well on more protein than less.I do love it.


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akolley
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How much grain or pseudo grain portions do you eat?  What kind and how often?
Thanks


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Quoted from akolley
How much grain or pseudo grain portions do you eat?  What kind and how often?
Thanks


I'm dropping all grains from my diet except for an occasional amt needed when cooking such things as salmon or zucchini patties.  

this is new for me as I have flirted and toyed with grains making excuses about eating them.. but now due to pain I'm going to stop 99%.  

so i will keep a progress report going here.. thanks for starting this thread.  

plus I never worry about excess protein and i seem to need alot to stay balanced but I am going to work on adding lots more vegies...
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What do Hunters need most when it comes to support?


I wonder...


Hunters need help maintaining their sanity in a world obsessed with diet and exercise & in which the Hunter is constantly told they will "regain" if they don't do thus and such and "shouldn't eat so much" etc which just reinforces eating disorder tendencies.  Not eating enough helps maintain the weight loss but at the expense of lean tissue which is hard/impossible to rebuild..... and exercise can become a source of burn out also.  Being a Hunter is just overall tiring, exhausting even.  It can be hard to know what to focus on or what to do next....  and no one ever empathizes or understands but instead the world is critical, mean and spouts off information that just makes you feel worse about yourself.  25 years of trying to manage my weight/health issues and it never gets easier.
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Hunters need help maintaining their sanity in a world obsessed with diet and exercise & in which the Hunter is constantly told they will "regain" if they don't do thus and such and "shouldn't eat so much" etc which just reinforces eating disorder tendencies.  Not eating enough helps maintain the weight loss but at the expense of lean tissue which is hard/impossible to rebuild..... and exercise can become a source of burn out also.  Being a Hunter is just overall tiring, exhausting even.  It can be hard to know what to focus on or what to do next....  and no one ever empathizes or understands but instead the world is critical, mean and spouts off information that just makes you feel worse about yourself.  25 years of trying to manage my weight/health issues and it never gets easier.


It sounds like you have a dopamine issue.
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akolley
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Sahara, I feel you.  I am a big eater and tend to have a hard time building muscle, and rarely have energy to "do" cardio.  Cardio makes my adrenals go to hard and then I am dragging forever.  It is a constant game of catch-up. Both my husband and I are hunters and we are always "tired".  Granted we are active in the chores of life, but generally sleep deprived and tired.  


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Quoted from 14442


Hunters need help maintaining their sanity in a world obsessed with diet and exercise & in which the Hunter is constantly told they will "regain" if they don't do thus and such and "shouldn't eat so much" etc which just reinforces eating disorder tendencies.  Not eating enough helps maintain the weight loss but at the expense of lean tissue which is hard/impossible to rebuild..... and exercise can become a source of burn out also.  Being a Hunter is just overall tiring, exhausting even.  It can be hard to know what to focus on or what to do next....  and no one ever empathizes or understands but instead the world is critical, mean and spouts off information that just makes you feel worse about yourself.  25 years of trying to manage my weight/health issues and it never gets easier.


Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. It is very exhausting and I annoy myself often with "things I have to do". I can be calm and relaxed for a few days then I get into the mode of "I need to do something to keep me busy". It really is tiring. Weight was never an issue when I was in my 20's now it seems like it's hard to keep the balance of eating less and then being more irritable and hungry. And the rapid aging- argh! 'Nuff said.
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akolley
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What are your favorite neutral vegetables? I need to broaden my low fodmap horizons!


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What are your favorite neutral vegetables? I need to broaden my low fodmap horizons!


I like arugula, bamboo shoots, hearts of palm & green olives
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akolley
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Thanks Starpine. What do you do with hearts of palm?


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Thanks Starpine. What do you do with hearts of palm?


Well I usually eat them right out of the can with chopsticks. haha. So delish.

But I really like them with buffalo hot dogs too! That's a genoharmonic combo for me.
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mmm buffalo hotdogs...drool


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Hunters can we discuss the "calories in calories out" theory?  Does this apply to us?  Do we truly need to count calories like everyone else.  Even on high carbs and moderately high calories with a few binges on ice cream per week I never weighed more than 112, am 5'1".
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"calories in calories out" applies to me far less than" carbs (starch) in carbs out". I HAVE to watch my carbs, especially in the form of starch. They cause weight gain as well as bloating for me.


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"calories in calories out" applies to me far less than" carbs (starch) in carbs out". I HAVE to watch my carbs, especially in the form of starch. They cause weight gain as well as bloating for me.


Yes I have found this to be true also.  I am better off on lower carbs though honestly when I was younger I wasn't that bad off, really only lowered my carbs in late 20s.
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I think Hunters in their youth can get away with a heck of a lot.  I know I did. Ate anything I wanted till I hit my thirties... then things started to hurt,sag and change.  Alcohol and suger and wheat are definetly our worst enemies.  These are All carbs! These used to be my fav's, now do not touch any of them!


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I was very careful in my 30s.  But now, at 41, I remain a few pounds below where I want to be and am kind of fed up.  I ate a TON of almond butter last month- fat for maybe 5 minutes and a few days later, over.
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Quoted from Mother
"calories in calories out" applies to me far less than" carbs (starch) in carbs out". I HAVE to watch my carbs, especially in the form of starch. They cause weight gain as well as bloating for me.


Yes totally.  I have just recently adopted this regime and feeling better overall.  my neck is actually starting to hurt less.  When I first dropped grains I had a few days where my neck got worse and now it's getting better.  I've lost about 20 lbs since starting in November with an eating regime where I slowly added more protein and less and less CARBS - THE BAD CARBS and grains.  I'm very careful now and try to eat lots more vegiesand lots of meat.  Trying to also get in more fish although not my fav.. BEEF is what I like best.  It's not worth it for me to hurt.  I do watch my fruit intake and currently stay away from banana's.  Having cravings come on IS NOT WORTH eating extra fruit.

I don't worry about the volume of good oils, butter and ghee that I use - I only concern myself with getting more vegies.  I find I don't have to eat as big of a meal if I get enough fats in with the meal.  

I've read where O's and Hunters do better on an almost Ketosis type routine although it takes a hell of a drop in ALL carbs to get me even close to ketosis.. for some reason I can't ever get into it unless i'm eating ONLY meats and oils.  

I've also been walking every other day and on the other days I do 45 minutes of elliptical and a small amount of arm weight and hip work.  

Good thread!
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Blue singer would you or anyone for that matter please post what a day of food looks like now that you have lowered your carbs.  I would love a visual from someone.   If we are lowering our carbs  I am wondering what fat and protein and vegetable portions look like.  Thank-you to any one able to post their typical day of food.  
Thanks


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I was very careful in my 30s.  But now, at 41, I remain a few pounds below where I want to be and am kind of fed up.  I ate a TON of almond butter last month- fat for maybe 5 minutes and a few days later, over.


This happens to me too! I eat lots of fat, feel fat for a little while then it all goes away again. I love this phenomenon!  
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