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Seraffa
Wednesday, December 14, 2011, 1:45am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I'm becoming more and more vegetarian-adjustable as I persue the BTD this forty days! I seem to have one horrible thing coming up (perhaps as a Nonnie, or Explorer - can't figure it) - but 2 days in a row of refried pinto beans and boom - I had a cold/allergy for 2 days with a sore throat. The throat healed, and I went to luch to try the refried beans over rice again. Delicious! But now? MY SINUSES are swelling and I'm getting scratchy eyes and stuffy nose......why? Lentils and me are friends. FAST friends now. Why do I wind up with the "bean thing" going on even though I'm 1/8 Mexican to begin with? Anyone else have this problem?



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I'm becoming more and more vegetarian-adjustable as I persue the BTD this forty days! I seem to have one horrible thing coming up (perhaps as a Nonnie, or Explorer - can't figure it) - but 2 days in a row of refried pinto beans and boom - I had a cold/allergy for 2 days with a sore throat. The throat healed, and I went to luch to try the refried beans over rice again. Delicious! But now? MY SINUSES are swelling and I'm getting scratchy eyes and stuffy nose......why? Lentils and me are friends. FAST friends now. Why do I wind up with the "bean thing" going on even though I'm 1/8 Mexican to begin with? Anyone else have this problem?

I think it is 1 of 2 possibilities:
1)  The restaurant put something in the beans during the preparation process that is bothering you.
2)  The pinto beans are causing the body to detox something that is bothering you significantly.

My gut is telling me that it is #1, but I have had some tremendous reactions to properly prepared beneficial foods, so it may be #2...

Hope this helps!


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If pinto beans are not an avoid for you there must be something else in that dish that is causing a reaction.  I get congested from dairy and wheat gives me itchy allergy symptoms.  I'm sorry you're having those symptoms!  
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If it was eaten at a restaurant then goodness knows what was in the beans (or anything else that was eaten).  Maybe try some pintos at home that you know are just the beans and no other ingredients, and eat them along with foods that are very unlikely to cause a bad reaction of their own.


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Thanks, thanks, thanks and ((((((((hugs))))))))). And I think AB Joes' comment #2 is pretty interesting in and of itself. I just took a Benadryl and will look around the house for allergens as well.


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Restaurants usually have things like lard in their Beans.
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Canned or dried beans?


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My guess would be avoids in the restaurant foods. Lard is a common ingredient in refried beans. Be sure to ask for "vegetarian" refried beans if you're not preparing them yourself.

You might have done better with a chicken dish in a Mexican restaurant, if you couldn't avoid eating out.


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just out of curiosity...

in the food lists here...is lard defined as the stuff that you get in the stores that has all the shelf stabilizer hydrogenated-vegetable oils in to ...

or is it defined as the pure rendered fat that one makes from cow or deer or whatever?

I've looked around but can't seem to find a definitive answer.


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in the food lists here...is lard defined as the stuff that you get in the stores that has all the shelf stabilizer hydrogenated-vegetable oils in to ...

or is it defined as the pure rendered fat that one makes from cow or deer or whatever?

Lard is pure rendered pork fat.

Tallow is pure rendered beef fat.

I don't know what the name is for pure rendered deer fat...


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Lard is pure rendered pork fat.

Tallow is pure rendered beef fat.

I don't know what the name is for pure rendered deer fat...


ah ha!
i did not realize that lard=pork...
very cool.
thanks!


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Dr. D. probably doesn't approve lard, (being pork) but its a lot better than hydrogenated oil which is what many use. You can get canned refried beans and check ing. they may not have any fat  and you can fry them at home (simmer in ghee)
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How's this going, Seraffa?  Hoping things are better!


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Saraffa - please tell us how it is going and if you solved the riddle about the pinto beans  

Pinto beans are Diamond fo me and I love them.  
I have found that I get terrible gas if I combine them with meat (beef/pork -  avoids).  
I do need to try them with Turkey and see if that causes and problem for me. But I do love them w/o meat.
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