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Just had my BP taken by a nurse co-worker at work, who keeps a sphygmomanometer in her cubicle.  The reason I asked her to check it is because I kinda sorta got freaked out yesterday re:  am I on my deathbed?  Long story.  Well, not long, but distracting and unnecessary to our tale here.  So anyway, my BP is 108/64!

Just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU, GTD.  I mean, 108/64.  I still may be on my deathbed, one never knows, but at least I know my BP is excellent!

Yowza!  108/64.  This thing (GTD) is POWERFUL.


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Just had my BP taken by a nurse co-worker at work, who keeps a sphygmomanometer in her cubicle.  The reason I asked her to check it is because I kinda sorta got freaked out yesterday re:  am I on my deathbed?  Long story.  Well, not long, but distracting and unnecessary to our tale here.  So anyway, my BP is 108/64!

Just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU, GTD.  I mean, 108/64.  I still may be on my deathbed, one never knows, but at least I know my BP is excellent!

Yowza!  108/64.  This thing (GTD) is POWERFUL.


How did you get your BP in that zone? Nice job!  
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Did you tell Cru? You weight and BP go down and hers goes up? Bonus!


Too funny, GCG...

Great results, PT.  It is really good to hear.  Do you a reference from the past that was significantly higher?


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Great news re BP, but not so the teaser...Please take care & let us know you are not on your death bed??!! World without PT Noooooooo
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What's the matter?  Call me tonight. Getting my haircut and colored but should be home by 8:30 or so.  I read this article in the Boston Globe over the weekend that I wanted to share with you......

Oooops, just seeing this Tuesday morning, so I guess calling you Monday night would be out of the question, huh?     Funnily enough, I actually thought about calling you last night!  But I decided not to "bug" you.  Sad that I think of myself as bugging my friends if I call them, but lately that's how I think of myself, if ya know what I mean.  Anyway, I'm okay.  I will give you a buzzaroo this week, I'd love to chat with ya.  



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How did you get your BP in that zone? Nice job!  

I don't know, but I strongly suspect it is all GTD!  Being a healthy weight, being in biochemical balance, strong and healthy...I'm so blessed!

My little scare this weekend consisted of a spot of vertigo Sunday--just a spot, yet I've had treatment back last spring, I think it was, so theoretically, it shouldn't happen.  That said, it happened once in July*, too, and then not again until now (December).  Both times, I couldn't duplicate it again.  If I could, I would have called to go back in, for sure, as the treatment is non-invasive, non-pharmaceutical, totally natural, and great.  It is just expensive for the insurance company (not sure why I care, but I do!) and I'd rather wait until and unless I ever really get it back to where it happens more than just a tiny moment here and then another tiny moment six months later.  Still, I am toying with calling the audiologist at the vertigo place just to see if it is okay that it occurs every so rare often.  Like I said, my understanding is, either the crystals in my ears are in a place in the ear labyrinth where they won't cause vertigo, or they have moved back to where they will, in which case, you would get it routinely, not just rarely.  Weird thing is, I had a headache (unusual for me) Saturday and Sunday--the vertigo was Sunday morning.  And that reminded me that I also had a BAD headache (the one this weekend was mild) in July when I got just one moment of vertigo.  Both times, I think there was some sort of high pressure system moving in, or pressure changes in the atmosphere, as I'm really sensitive to that.  Also, I had my period this weekend and sometimes hormonal changes give me a mild headache.  ANYWAY:  I ALSO had my pulsatile tinnitus (hearing my heartbeat in my left ear) flare back up Saturday.  So, all in all, I decided I was about to stroke out **.  That's why I had my BP taken Monday, just to see what's what there.  btw, they (the audiologist and the ENT) say that the pulsatile tinnitus and the vertigo are not related/connected, but I don't know.  After the vertigo treatment, the pulsatile tinnitus waned greatly and now I almost never get it.  Yet I got it this weekend AND the vertigo.  Just saying.  If they are related, it is kind of GOOD, actually, as the vertigo is definitely classic benign vertigo caused by wayward ear crystals, so if they have something to do with the pulsatile tinnitus, I'm guessing that means it is all ENT-related and NOT something terrifying like an aneurysm.

ANYWAY:  bottom line, I'm fine, just my usual neurotic self, which prompted me to ask Laura to check my BP.  Why it is SO grand is a mystery to me, but I think it's the GTD, I truly do.  My body LOVES this diet and tells me in so many ways.  I've never had my bod respond to beautifully to any diet.  Never.

Yay!

* Forgot:  it also happened immediately upon returning home from the vertigo treatment back last spring, I called in a relative panic, they said rush right back in, they did all sorts of tests AGAIN to try to induce it, they couldn't induce it, they said I was fine, go home, I just need to let the crystals settle down because it is kind of like a "snow globe" and they were all shaken up from the treatment.  Well, maybe I shouldn't have gotten so jiggy wit' it then, when I initially got home, as maybe one or two crystals "went rogue" into a place they shouldn't be, and they are the culprits in why, every so rare often, I still get a little moment.  But we are talking once in July, and once this weekend (December).  If it is only gonna be once every five months, then fine and dandy.  But again, if it started back up in earnest, I'd be camped out at the vertigo treatment place waiting in line like a crazed shopper in a tent a week before Black Friday.


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Did you tell Cru? You weight and BP go down and hers goes up? Bonus!

Brad, bless you.  You always have this uncanny ability to cheer me up.  I say uncanny because so few people in this world can really do that, yet you have the gift, my child.



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Too funny, GCG...

Great results, PT.  It is really good to hear.  Do you a reference from the past that was significantly higher?

Well, way back in my late 20's and 30's, when I ate all wrong for my type, it was sometimes borderline high, like 140/90 (which I think is actually considered high these days, since they changed the guidelines in 2004).  But it has never been really, really high.  I've never had to be on medication for it or anything.  Still, 108/64 seems particularly thrilling to me for some reason.  Health thrills me, what can I say?  


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Great news re BP, but not so the teaser...Please take care & let us know you are not on your death bed??!! World without PT Noooooooo

I'm too crazy to die, P.  I am kept alive by sheer neuroses, anxiety, generalized and specific worry, et al.  No, I just got a tad (just a slight tad, not even a full-blown tad) freaked out because the vertigo came baaa-aaack on Sunday, but it was just a fleeting thing (yeah, keep telling yourself that, PT *lol*).  I got outta bed, took a few steps, realized I was staggering like a drunken sailor and almost falling down, realized the room was spinning, realized the floor was pitching, realized, "rhymes-with-pit, VERTIGO", and then I had the tell-tale other thaaaang of trying to stand straight yet only being able to LIST to port...and then it was over.  Couldn't duplicate it (although could make myself SLIGHTLY vertigoey if I rolled to the left in bed, but we are talking only something someone who ever had vertigo would even notice, as it was just a little sort of pre-spin/nausea, but not even that.  But I couldn't duplicate the issue I described just above when getting up out of bed, and I've been testing turning my head in bed and rolling this right and left, too, and I'm fine.  My theory is the dang crystals (and I shouldn't call them "dang" because we all have 'em and we NEED 'em--in the right place!--to orient us in gravity) are right on the EDGE of where they are supposed to be, and that is why, every once in a rare while, if I have some sort of pressure headache or am fighting off a sinus thing or whatever, they get pushed just ever so slightly to where they can have a prayer of wreacking just a speck of vertigo havoc before chilling out again as they slide back to the other side of "the edge".  Ha ha haaa:  don't ya love my medical theories?

The good news is, my vertigo doesn't scare the sh*t outta me anymore because I know what it is and what it isn't, and I have an excellent treatment facility near me and covered by insurance, amen and hallelujah.  I just don't want to go unless I really need to.  Believe me, if it ever comes back with a vengence, I'M THERE.  But a little smidge here and a dab there, I don't see me going to the ENT to get a referral (might not have to go, might just have to call, but might have to do--that's half a day off work right there) and then going to the vertigo treatment (another half day off, and quite expensive for insurance).  I want to go if I need to go, but not if I don't.  That's how I roll.

Feeling great today.  I told Hurley, move aside, son, I'm gonna try leaping outta bed here and see if I go plunging to my death.  Aaaaaaand:  totally fine!  No drunken sailor this morning.

It's funny with vertigo, though:  it always seems to get you when you least expect it.  Like, Sunday--and this is always my experience with it--it was happening before I realized it was happening.  Only as I was staggering and trying not to fall did I realize, yeeeeeah:  VERTIGO.  

But again, it was just one momentary time and I think I'm good to go now, providing we don't get anymore intense high pressure systems and/or menstrual periods and/or fighting off something viral (thank you, Proberry, which I've been hitting hard ever since) coming through.



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Nicely done, twinnie.   

Thanks, u, but I do believe the credit on that BP reading goes to one Dr. D.  Blood pressure optimization king of the world!

When peeps go on the BTD or GTD (or SWAMI), there should be some sort of Star Trek bridge scene wherein one of the crew members says "Commencing optimization of all systems now!"



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Just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU, GTD.  I mean, 108/64.  I still may be on my deathbed, one never knows, but at least I know my BP is excellent!

Yowza!  108/64.  This thing (GTD) is POWERFUL.


THE power of this community.. we all have a share in youre success.. you are a inspration.. and funny too.. Good job..


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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Got it.  Responded to it.  Somehow KNEW* that was the article!  Already saw it elsewhere yesterday.  Yes, it is really, really good.  

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THE power of this community.. we all have a share in youre success.. you are a inspration.. and funny too.. Good job..

Thanks, Miss Goldie.  This community is my inspiration and has been for years.  I honestly don't know where I'd be without this cyberplace and you all.  I'm sure I'd still be obese.  That's bad enough, so beyond that, I don't dare even contemplate.


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*lol*, Brig:  Your weight loss ticker is really cute.  And 35 lbs?  Go, you girl!  That ain't chump change!


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  Duuuuuudes.  I just realized I have 10,566 posts.  Wow.  No wonder I've actually learned something by this point.

P.S.  Of course, it isn't the amount you post, it's the quality of what you READ, and the quality of what I've read around these here parts is pretty dang impressive.  It took a village but if this place could get me to where I am, there is hope for everyone!


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When peeps go on the BTD or GTD (or SWAMI), there should be some sort of Star Trek bridge scene wherein one of the crew members says "Commencing optimization of all systems now!"
Then why do I still feel yucky after nearly 2 years on SWAMI?



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Then why do I still feel yucky after nearly 2 years on SWAMI?

Because you needed more healing than most.

I understand the frustration you are going through, as I feel like I just got run over most of the time.  I know that I am in the middle of the healing process, so just keep going with it.  It doesn't mean that I'm not real tired of hurting, etc...


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Then why do I still feel yucky after nearly 2 years on SWAMI?

Is it possible that some of the data you submitted into SWAMI was not accurate?  The reason I'm sticking with the GTD for now instead of going with my SWAMI recommendations is that I have incorrect fingerprint info in there and I'm not sure how much or how little that skews my results.  What I'm saying is, SWAMI is only as customized and on target as the info we put into it.  So one sugg I'd make is:  go over all the information/data you put into SWAMI and, if any of it is in question, try to ensure you update it with correct info and see if it changes any of your diet recommendations.

The other thing, as ABJoe said, is that each of our individual bodies, with their individual DNA, biochemistry and histories, follow their own schedule for detox and/or healing--their own process, timetable and way of doing it.  This is true of emotional stuff as well as physical stuff in life, btw, as I have recently been schooled in.  When it is time to go through something, you go through it.  It is going to happen when it happens and take however long it takes.  It could take much longer than you think it "should".  That said, I do repeat my sugg to recheck your original SWAMI input data.  (((HUG)))

Also, are you exercising, girl?  If you aren't exercising, every day, ideally, you aren't getting the full benefits of this thaaaaaaang.



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Ruthie, when we are parents and with all of the responsibilities that this brings, it means that we don't have as much time for ourselves and there is definitely some level of stress going on. You appear to be a very conscientious parent and hats off to you for being a single parent. I believe that is one of the hardest jobs on the planet! Your children seem of age to be able to fend for themselves a bit so perhaps you can dedicate one day or part of day & evening weekly for yourself where you just take care of Ruthie and loosely supervise the kids at home?

Also, you have dealt with the stress of your father's death this year have you not as well as a sick aunt? These things profoundly affect us. Wishing you the best.

When I had fibromyalgia that was induced by a round of strong antibiotics my ND had me take a supplement that really helped, I took a bottle again this summer after being affected by some painkillers I took for a weekend. Let me know if you are interested.  
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PT- Andrea did all the measurements. identified my fingerprints (with her then-17yo's son's help) and put all the info into a pro SWAMI. She then re-measured me last August when I was there for my secretor test. This SWAMI is as accurate as it can possibly be, unless I could afford to see an ND and have him or her manually make changes to it.

No, I haven't been exercising like I should. I think I need to make that a priority, even though I know I'm not strong enough for all that SWAMI reccomends for me. I may not be able to lose weight or acheive optimal health with a lower level of exercise, but I think that a minimum of half a mile (or 20 minutes of something else), 3 times a week, would probably help keep my depression and the worst of the fibro symptoms at bay.

And, yeah, stress is another biggie. My ex has been a source of stress just by being himself, on top of causing me financial worries.


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You might need to find something that you can do for exercise in the apartment.I had a type I diabetic girlfriend at one time. She taped a soap opera then watched it will working out on the treadmill. You can find cheap treadmills, elliptical machines ect. on craigslist around february or march, no need to pay new price. About the husband, no need to give him free rent in your head. If he isn't paying report him to the court and have his wages garnished.
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There are many exercise shows on TV.  If you have a means to record a show and play it later when you have time to exercise at home, say, in-between laundry & cooking.  I think this would be the best low-cost option.  


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My question is how you got your BP so low. Was there a particular herb or lifestyle choice you made, such as fasting for example, to get your BP under control?

Gatherers in general struggle with BP, so I think it would be helpful to a lot of people here.
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Well I'll speak up for PT for a bit. She lost a lot of weight and literally walked her backside off. That and sticking to her diet.
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And, yeah, stress is another biggie. My ex has been a source of stress just by being himself, on top of causing me financial worries.

I think you saved the worst for last....... Anyone who hasn't had to go through what you are right now, is very fortunate indeed. Take care of yourself, Ruthie. You need to do it, not only for yourself, but for your children. You have my very best wishes!


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Actually all of my life my normal BP has been 100/60. In college they took it twice because they thought I was dead.

Anyway I know something is off it it goes higher than this. Weight does not matter for me-I was 100 lbs then and have been as heavy as 140 lbs. My BP has stayed the same, unless something was not right and I can tell when things are off.

Congrats on the new BP!


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I do have a treadmill, I just need to  clear some clutter from the floor around it so it's usable. I don't have TV access up here (that's an added monthly expense) but I do own a yoga DVD and have access to the public library's selection of exercise DVDs. I need to establish a routine that includes exercise.

And there's no point in taking the guy to court. He's been unemployed for a long time, so there are no wages to garnish. When he has money, he pays me. He's good about that.  I don't think he'll cut the money in half when DD1 turns 18 either. So taking him to court would be counter-productive. He's just not good about taking care of himself, keeping a job, etc. If I was still married to him, and he was unemployed for this long, I'd be in the same boat.


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To her it was important to set a fixed unalterable routine. Any dvd would do, those of tv series tend to be about 45 minutes since there are no commercials. They just act as a timer and a distraction.
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PT- Andrea did all the measurements. identified my fingerprints (with her then-17yo's son's help) and put all the info into a pro SWAMI. She then re-measured me last August when I was there for my secretor test. This SWAMI is as accurate as it can possibly be, unless I could afford to see an ND and have him or her manually make changes to it.

No, I haven't been exercising like I should. I think I need to make that a priority, even though I know I'm not strong enough for all that SWAMI reccomends for me. I may not be able to lose weight or acheive optimal health with a lower level of exercise, but I think that a minimum of half a mile (or 20 minutes of something else), 3 times a week, would probably help keep my depression and the worst of the fibro symptoms at bay.

And, yeah, stress is another biggie. My ex has been a source of stress just by being himself, on top of causing me financial worries.

Sounds like your SWAMI is as accurate as can be, so yes, I would say start exercising at least 20 mins, 3x per week.  Frankly, I have to strive for every day, although I occasionally miss a day.  I try for a half-hour walk, minimum, every day.  Some days (weekends), I do two or so HOURS at a clip.

Unfortunately, I'm realizing now that I should have changed it up over the last few YEARS instead of just walking, walking, walking, WALKING, as I think, while wonderful for my weight loss and management, I've done something horrible to my knees* (although they were already well on their way to decrepitude thanks to all the years of eating wrong plus having one leg shorter than the other, resulting in a weird stance, PLUS being obese.  Not a good combo.  I think now that I desperately need x-rays, yet I am in denial because I don't want the radiation, I don't want the interaction with the health care system and insurance, and frankly, I'm not sure I want to know, if they are going to say "Yup, you need a double knee replacement, ASAP!" or something.  ANYWAY, my point is:  change up the exercise routine, if you can.  I at LEAST should be keeping up with my chiro visits (should go once per month, haven't been in around a YEAR) and/or getting a therapeutic MASSAGE now and again (preferably NOW...and again  ).

* And to my right hamstring/hip/quad/sacral joint/entire knee-to-sacral-joint area.  Certain positions, like the yoga child pose, which I used to do all the time, are excruciating at times and the pain moves around that entire region, AND, the weirdest thing is:  before bending forward into child's pose, you simply sit on your heels, but I CANNOT straighten up to sit on my heels.  EXTREME PAIN.  Also, if I squat down, I cannot get back up (!) without holding onto something and going through a lot of ANGST *lol*.  Like my hamstring or SOMETHING is ...impossible to describe, as whatever it is MOVES AROUND, which makes me think it is bad, involving some sort of compressed nerve(s) and Goddess knows what.  Again, my method:  ignore it and hope it goes away.  It's been going on for several YEARS now, though, so my method is pretty much the definition of insanity *lol*.  Oh--and just lately--my knees, if I squat down or even bend down at all, like to pet a cat or dog or garden or WHATEVER, they make this, like, moving around sort of unstable, WACKADOO noise, accompanied by a strange, unstable, WACKADOO feeling.  NOT GOOD.  Again, my system is:  ignore it and pray for rain.  


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Well I'll speak up for PT for a bit. She lost a lot of weight and literally walked her backside off. That and sticking to her diet.

That sums it up succinctly, gcg!  Thanks for speaking up for me, as I never seem to be able to get back to the board in a timely fashion anymore.  Lord love a flamingo, I am making an effort lately to be here more, though.  I gotta tend to the home fire.  And this is home.  



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Twisty have you thought about trying kettlebells? Just look on youtube for a few examples but ignore the Greasy Guido from Jersey Shores.
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That sums it up succinctly, gcg!  Thanks for speaking up for me, as I never seem to be able to get back to the board in a timely fashion anymore.  Lord love a flamingo, I am making an effort lately to be here more, though.  I gotta tend to the home fire.  And this is home.  
Really great to see you back here too!! Not the same without you you know

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I always have high BP.

Nothing I can do to bring it down. It runs in the family. Everybody has high BP without exception. I tried arjuna, guggul, and carnitine with no difference. Maybe I'll try CoQ10 next month.
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What's your actual blood pressure numbers, if you don't mind sharing? It's possible that you actually have "higher than average, but healthy and normal for you" blood pressure, even if your doctor wants to label it "high."


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What's your actual blood pressure numbers, if you don't mind sharing? It's possible that you actually have "higher than average, but healthy and normal for you" blood pressure, even if your doctor wants to label it "high."


137/80

I'm not sure about the second number though.

I think it's a gatherer thing.
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I always have high BP.

Nothing I can do to bring it down. It runs in the family. Everybody has high BP without exception. I tried arjuna, guggul, and carnitine with no difference. Maybe I'll try CoQ10 next month.



I know Dr. D has things in his bag of tricks that would help--- I have seen him at work with patients.




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Twisty have you thought about trying kettlebells? Just look on youtube for a few examples but ignore the Greasy Guido from Jersey Shores.

Kettlebells!  Kettlebells!  It's Christmas time in the city, in the city!
Ring-a-ling!  Hear them ring!  Soon it will be Christmas day!



Oh...wait...we just had Christmas day.  I'm thinking of SILVER bells.  My bad!

As for kettlebells, you will be able to tell what a "gym rat" I'm NOT when I say:  never heard of 'em.  I will investigate them on YouTube when I'm on line from my cell phone at home.  Can't open videos at work.  And if I could, I wouldn't, as Cru would be out here in a NY minute to ring my kettle bell.

I am definitely ON IT, though, and will report back after checking 'em out.  I definitely need to expand my exercise portfolio.  Not only is it soooooooooooooooooooooooo much healthier for a bod to cross-train versus just doing the same thing day after day after day after YEAR, but frankly, if it ever gets to a point where I CAN'T walk, like if my knees give up the ghost, I need to DIVERSIFY.  If you have all your eggs in one basket, and the basket falls onto the ground, then you are eggless.  Not a good thing.

Dear GOD, they have unleashed some new hellish fragrance on us in here yet again.  I think it is someone's perfume this time, versus some unidentified hazardous chemical emanating from the warehouse downstairs.  But it is hard to tell them apart sometimes.  I'd better get some more hot water for more tea.  To the methylation mobile, Bat Girl!


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Really great to see you back here too!! Not the same without you you know

Okay, between that an another post you made recently (sent you a PM re that one), I must state with gusto:  you I love!  

I plan to be back on here more now.  I know I've said that several times in recent months and then proceeded to not be on much, but I had a talk last eve with our very own Jane (LOVE YOU, JANE!) and something she said (you know what you said, Jane) kind of sank in, and without going into Detail One, suffice it to say, I'm gonna be back on the board more.  Cruella willing and the crik don't rise.  Cruella actually ain't willing, and, as a matter of hideous fact, she has loaded me down with THE single most infuriating project--infuriating because it would have been totally unnecessary if they had just LISTENED to Kay and I a few years back on how we should do something, but no, so now we have to UNDO what they had us do back then, and REDO it a diff way, which will take MONTHS, and by "we", I mean "me", as Cru said the other day, ya know, I think I'm just going to have you do this, not Kay.  I've learned not to even try to figure out her insane reasoning on things, but what that means is, this will take around a YEAR of me working on it every second that I am not working on something else.  Bottom line:  I'm squeezing the board in ANYWAY, or I risk going completely insane, and then what good will I be to Cru?  Riddle me THAT!  What I'm saying is, my workload at work could still mean stretches of time that I'm not on here, but as far as other stuff (yes, I'm being intentionally vague, so let's trot along, shall we?) goes that has been distracting me, I'm back, babies.  Be afraid.  Be very afraid.  


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Okay, between that an another post you made recently (sent you a PM re that one), I must state with gusto:  you I love!  

I plan to be back on here more now.  I know I've said that several times in recent months and then proceeded to not be on much, but I had a talk last eve with our very own Jane (LOVE YOU, JANE!) and something she said (you know what you said, Jane) kind of sank in, and without going into Detail One, suffice it to say, I'm gonna be back on the board more.  Cruella willing and the crik don't rise.  Cruella actually ain't willing, and, as a matter of hideous fact, she has loaded me down with THE single most infuriating project--infuriating because it would have been totally unnecessary if they had just LISTENED to Kay and I a few years back on how we should do something, but no, so now we have to UNDO what they had us do back then, and REDO it a diff way, which will take MONTHS, and by "we", I mean "me", as Cru said the other day, ya know, I think I'm just going to have you do this, not Kay.  I've learned not to even try to figure out her insane reasoning on things, but what that means is, this will take around a YEAR of me working on it every second that I am not working on something else.  Bottom line:  I'm squeezing the board in ANYWAY, or I risk going completely insane, and then what good will I be to Cru?  Riddle me THAT!  What I'm saying is, my workload at work could still mean stretches of time that I'm not on here, but as far as other stuff (yes, I'm being intentionally vague, so let's trot along, shall we?) goes that has been distracting me, I'm back, babies.  Be afraid.  Be very afraid.  
Aww thanks!! Hey at least re the work Cruis piling on you only... it means you are as of now indispensible so can not be in risk of losing your job?? Just make sure & keep that BP down
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gcg, I just finally Googled kettlebells in Google images.  Are these they?


Those look doable, even without a workout video to accompany.  One could just kettlebell to the Oldies, so to speak!


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Interesting:

"Unlike traditional dumbbells, the kettlebell's center of mass is extended beyond the hand, similar to Indian clubs or ishi sashi. This facilitates ballistic and swinging movements.[4] By their nature, typical kettlebell exercises build strength and endurance, particularly in the lower back, legs, and shoulders, and increase grip strength.[1][4][3] The basic movements, such as the swing, snatch, and the clean and jerk, engage the entire body at once,[3] and in a way that mimics real world activities such as shoveling or farm work.[1][4][2]"

All good, interest piqued, but then we have this:

"The movements used in kettlebell exercise can be dangerous to those who have back or shoulder problems, or a weak core."

So I guess I should get a video after all, not that that ensures it won't show dangerous moves.

link/source of quotes:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettlebell


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Niacin in moderate to high levels can treat and aray of things including high BP.

Unsure wherever this is temporary or long lasting.

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gcg, I just finally Googled kettlebells in Google images.  Are these they?


Those look doable, even without a workout video to accompany.  One could just kettlebell to the Oldies, so to speak!


You can get one with a work out dvd included at Target. I'd gestimate that you would need to get a 10 pounder to start. If you had done weight lighting you might try 15 and work up to 20 but 10 for now.
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Good advice, I'd better start with 10.  I don't have a ton of upper body strength.  I know, a few years back (when I was still obese), lifting those 40-lb bags of soil from Lowe's for gardening projects nearly KILLED me...not so much initially lifting them, but SCHLEPPING them from Point A to Point B, *whew!*.  I'll start with 10 lbs.

Not a Target fan but I think I will pop there for these, as there is one right near where I work.  Thanks, gcg!  

p.s., you don't think I will hurt my back if I swing those around wrong, with my "weak core", as the Wikipedia page warns against doing, do you?  I think I should go for it.  Not sure I can view a DVD as the laptop I have won't necessarily let me log in (long story).


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Maybe even less than 10 pounds.....are there 5 pound ones?
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Maybe even less than 10 pounds.....are there 5 pound ones?

Hey, I think I can handle the 10 lbs (she said, without knowing Thing One about what she's talking about).  Put me in, coach!



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Good advice, I'd better start with 10.  I don't have a ton of upper body strength.  I know, a few years back (when I was still obese), lifting those 40-lb bags of soil from Lowe's for gardening projects nearly KILLED me...not so much initially lifting them, but SCHLEPPING them from Point A to Point B, *whew!*.  I'll start with 10 lbs.

Not a Target fan but I think I will pop there for these, as there is one right near where I work.  Thanks, gcg!  

p.s., you don't think I will hurt my back if I swing those around wrong, with my "weak core", as the Wikipedia page warns against doing, do you?  I think I should go for it.  Not sure I can view a DVD as the laptop I have won't necessarily let me log in (long story).


no dvd player for the TV? Gotta go more later
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If you start slow, doing only a few reps of each exercise, stopping if you feel overly sore, etc,  I don't think you're likely to injure yourself.


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Twisty a weak core is a chicken or egg situation, If you never do anything that might strain the core you will allways have a weak core. Just do like Ruth said. If the DVD says "do this 10 times" do it 3 or 4 the first day. Every third time you do the dvd just add one repetition and skip a day between doing the dvd but not more than 2 days.
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PT, that is a smokin' BP!!!   I've always been more towards the smaller side & my BP has always been toward the low end, but I don't think mine is even that low!  I'm usually in the 114 - 117 over 68 - 74 ish, depending on stress, exercise, etc.  Way to go!!!  Oh, BTW, your posts are thoroughly amusing!  


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Thanks, bg!  Typing this with my thumbs, so just a shortie here.  Yeah, no dvd for tv, gcg.

So nice to pop in here when blue. This place/u guys r always such a pick me up. Anyway, thanks for the replies. Hasta manana. Hugs.


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PT, that is a smokin' BP!!!   I've always been more towards the smaller side & my BP has always been toward the low end, but I don't think mine is even that low!  I'm usually in the 114 - 117 over 68 - 74 ish, depending on stress, exercise, etc.  Way to go!!!  Oh, BTW, your posts are thoroughly amusing!  

Okay, now I'm on a full keyboard (yay!), yet I do have to go "scan" (don't ask, and BOO!) in T minus five minutes, so I STILL have to rush.  I can't win fer losin'.  EEENYHOO:  thanks again so much for the compliment re my posts.

As for the BP, while I have never officially had high BP, it has been to the higher end of normal when I was fat and not eating according to blood type, even back when I was much younger (like, late 20's), as I was really eating an anti-O diet, BIG TIME, then.  So, I am so thrilled that it is SO great now.

Good points, gcg and R about not worrying too much re that comment in Wikipedia's kettlebell page about injuring your core.  If you don't exercise and push the envelope a little, you will never strengthen and increase the flexibility of said core, so you might as well go for it (great point, gcg), AND it is doubtful I could hurt it, given the crazy stuff I do without kettlebells that doesn't seem to paralyze me.  For example, I now have to grocery shop for my mom, as she is blind and cannot handle being on her walker for any length of time/distance.  Bad combo:  if she weren't blind, she could get one of those scooter-type wheelchairs and simply hop on the van from where she lives to shop for herself.  But a blind person trying to navigate one of those scooters?  Not a good scenario!  So, I'm shopping for her and I, this very Saturday, ending up carring approx. ten BILLION very HEAVY grocery bags from the parking lot, into the lobby and up two floors to her apt.  I thought:  "If Dr. Rod (my chiro) could see me now, he'd KILL me!", because I wasn't carrying things the way he taught me to:  holding stuff in front of my chest.  Nope, both my wrists and hands were WEIGHTED DOWN and the whole thing was pitimous.  And I do stuff like that all the time.  BAD.  I don't have the patience to go in, see if the little palette thing is available, blah blah BLAH:  we're burning daylight here!

Uh oh, gotta go scan.  Dang it!  Will try to get back to the board later today.  I am having severe board withdrawal at this point.



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Twisty? Seeing how your Mom is handicapped in a retirement facility, don't they have an elevator?
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Twisty? Seeing how your Mom is handicapped in a retirement facility, don't they have an elevator?

Yeah, they do, but by the time you schleppe the ump-de-ump bags from the lot, past the gauntlet of SMOKERS (not that that is really relevant here but I just thought I would jump on the opportunity to rant about it!) and then wait for the elevator and for all the people on same to get off same and off same to get on same, and then go to the end of her corridor, you've been schlepping for at least a good five or ten minutes and, when you are carrying, say, five heavy, full grocery bags per arm, so, like TEN TOTAL (minimum!) trust me, it's ridic.  Thing is, I buy my mom a LOT of groceries at a clip, so that I only have to go once every two or so weeks, so there are a LOT of bags to carry up.

They do have a flat cart thing in their laundry room that (I asked) one is allowed to use for groceries (because I can't IMAGINE how some of these older folks schleppe their groceries upstairs from their cars.  The thing is, and you will understand this, being in Florida, most of the year, it is WAY TOO HOT to leave the groceries in the car for even a few minutes, so taking two or three trips is out.  I either have to do them all at once, or RACE in and try to find that cart, which I am not enamoured of (the surface of it is very dirty and also it isn't always where it is supposed to be, and it really isn't that big anyway, so you have to pile the bags up precariously).



edited to add:  Oh, and the visitor parking spots are at the extreme far end of the parking lot, which I can understand, as the residents definitely should have the closer spots...anyway:  it is a very schleppey affair, grocery shopping for her.  As an aside, it is also funny because I go down totally different aisles and buy totally different things than I do for myself and my whole, unprocessed GTD diet.  Since she can't really cook anymore, either, I end up buying her a lot of prepared food from their deli, etc.  It's so WEIRD to me to go down certain aisles.  Like I get her Klondikes from the ice cream aisle, for instance.  It's like:  don't make eye contact with any of the shiny packages, Edna!


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I MEAN (lol, I'm back), you have, for example, in the grocery bags, full bottles (the BIG ones) of V8, chocolate soy milk, blah blah.  It's like:  they are heavy, some of 'em, and even the light ones end up being not "ergonomic", as when you have five hanging from one wrist and five from the other, it's just NOT GOOD from the perspective of your lower back...or your wrists!

I tell myself it is a work-out!  Free gym membership, without the gym!


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Twist, there are large collapsible crates on wheels available at Staples, and maybe other office supply stores, that can carry six bags of groceries easily. I've used one for years for everything under the sun and it hasn't broken down yet! You can really pile it up. They have them on their half-price sale occasionally which is how I got mine. I hate carrying heavy loads when I can pull them on wheels.


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Twist, there are large collapsible crates on wheels available at Staples, and maybe other office supply stores, that can carry six bags of groceries easily. I've used one for years for everything under the sun and it hasn't broken down yet! You can really pile it up. They have them on their half-price sale occasionally which is how I got mine. I hate carrying heavy loads when I can pull them on wheels.

Interesting, I will have to check that out, thanks.  

It is hard on my particular back sitch to have to bend slightly to push something like, say, a suitcase on wheels, versus just carrying it, but if the handle extends up high enough, then it is much, much better to have something on wheels than to carry it, especially if the something is 10 to 15 unwieldy bags of groceries, not to mention, say, a huge thaaaang of toilet paper and/or paper towels, ETC.  I will definitely look into the rolling thing.  My mom actually has something like that but the handle requires one to bend slightly to push it, which I balk at.  The handle has to be tall enough (which is funny, as I'm a short Gatherer, so I don't know who they are building all these short pushcart thaaangs for, but not for even the shortest among us.  


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Wow - the things you have to do??!! Considering all the palaver you go through with your Mum's grocery situation, & the fact that when you do such a big order anyway, would it be possible to get them delivered &/or even order on line?

I have a friend who has a very allergic child, who willingly pays the extra to do her shopping via the internet, so she doesn't have to drag two kids with her... It is like an extra $10 or so to do it that way & every time you re-order you get a discount coupon to use for delivery
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Are there any delivery services there?  It might be worth the few extra dollars to have groceries delivered some of the time.  The obvious alternative, other than to buy a cart, is to go more often.  Can you pull up to the front door and unload the groceries and take them inside and then get their cart?  I did that occasionally when I had to for my mother (although she got 3 meals a day there so I never had to do real grocery shopping).  
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I was thinking of those suitcase roller thinks. Those boxes do sound interesing. I'm thinking of getting a little wagon to roll mine from the car around to the door.


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It is hard on my particular back sitch to have to bend slightly to push something like, say, a suitcase on wheels, versus just carrying it, but if the handle extends up high enough, then it is much, much better to have something on wheels than to carry it, especially if the something is 10 to 15 unwieldy bags of groceries, not to mention, say, a huge thaaaang of toilet paper and/or paper towels, ETC.

Most of the time, it is easier to PULL those carts rather than push them...


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Most of the time, it is easier to PULL those carts rather than push them...


She was just doing it the O way! Strange how that rhymes with "Owie"
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In the summer, I often put my perishable groceries in an insulated cooler, putting an ice pack or two in the cooler before heading out to the store.

And toilet paper won't spoil in the car if it waits for the second trip.


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She was just doing it the O way! Strange how that rhymes with "Owie"
It does Must be the Explorer in me but I resemble that remark Actually I don't - I would definitely work out the best & most efficient way to do the job...Maybe I am just lazy

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Most of the time, it is easier to PULL those carts rather than push them...


Yes, that is the way I use mine.


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Wow - the things you have to do??!! Considering all the palaver you go through with your Mum's grocery situation, & the fact that when you do such a big order anyway, would it be possible to get them delivered &/or even order on line?

I have a friend who has a very allergic child, who willingly pays the extra to do her shopping via the internet, so she doesn't have to drag two kids with her... It is like an extra $10 or so to do it that way & every time you re-order you get a discount coupon to use for delivery

Actually, I've been meaning to look into this.  I know the grocery store chain I shop at for her had a service (and I may have just seen a teaser for a local news story the other day, saying they are discontinuing it--but I wasn't sure what chain the teaser was referring to) wherein you order everything on line and then you pick it up curbside when you get there.  Frankly, since neither my mom nor I have a computer (although I do have a smartphone, but please...lol), it is easier and faster for me to just barrel in there, get everything myself and barrel back over to her place with it.  Plus, that way (and this is what is good about me, a caring daughter who knows her, shopping for her, versus the lovely person who was doing it for a while but then had a stroke [!] so now is outta commission on that front), I can notice and grab things that aren't on her list but that I know she needs, would want, or I think she would like if she tried it.  It's a whole diff ballgame than shopping for myself, because, for me, it is all about pure, healthy, compliant, whole foods for my GTD.  For her, since she basically can't cook anymore, and she can't see, it is all about convenience, ease of "use" (opening, closing, storing, little to no prep involved), tasting good (she is 87, blind and basically housebound--I say give her some KLONDIKE BARS *lol*), and ensuring she gets at least some semblance of proper, balanced, nutrition in her diet.  So, for example, if I see some really fresh, good looking veggies and/or fruits that are NOT on her list, I'll grab 'em, as I really worry about her getting enough "chi" with all the processed stuff she eats.  I get her a LOT of pre-made stuff from the grocery store's deli area, stuff that is really not healthy, like "chicken tenders" (she really likes these--but deep-fried fare for an A?  I'm going to burn in hell, aren't I?), sandwiches and subs, etc.  She also likes flavored yogurts, which to me are little containers of corn syrup, but anyway.  Even brands that used to be wholesome, like Dannon, have long-since sold their souls to the devil and are pure, unadulterated CR*P of the highest order now.  Nothing but JUNK.  I also get her frozen meals, etc.  Yeah, I'll be burning in you-know-where.

Sometimes, I make her a healthy casserole and take it over, but I feel like I should be doing a lot MORE of that.  Yet, there is no TIME, maaaan!  Between work and the dog park (dogs are like toddlers combined with Olympic atheletes who need to run two hours per day *lol*), I haven't even had time to open my HUGE package of Revereware pots (!!!) that arrived THREE DAYS AGO.  It has not made it out of the foyer.  Tonight's the night!  No dog park for Hurley tonight:  after work, it is the HFS, then Revereware time!

ANYWAY:  If Publix (the grocery store chain) doesn't have certain services available, I'll bet there are other people who could do her shopping or deliver or something...but for now, I'm doing it.  I gripe about how time consuming it is, yet I also am glad to do it, as like I said, I will grab stuff for her that she may not think of on her list and then she appreciates it.  Plus I also put everything away for her, which a delivery service or person might not do.  Poor thing can't even really muster the energy to do that, and she has to do it all on her walker.  Aging is a biznatch.  'Specially if you go blind in the middle of it.  But she's still got her fiesty spirit!  Can't keep a good A down!



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P.S.  I have managed to get her into chocolate soymilk!  Ha!  One small step for A-kind!


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