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gulfcoastguy
Thursday, December 15, 2011, 10:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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You might need to find something that you can do for exercise in the apartment.I had a type I diabetic girlfriend at one time. She taped a soap opera then watched it will working out on the treadmill. You can find cheap treadmills, elliptical machines ect. on craigslist around february or march, no need to pay new price. About the husband, no need to give him free rent in your head. If he isn't paying report him to the court and have his wages garnished.
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There are many exercise shows on TV.  If you have a means to record a show and play it later when you have time to exercise at home, say, in-between laundry & cooking.  I think this would be the best low-cost option.  


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My question is how you got your BP so low. Was there a particular herb or lifestyle choice you made, such as fasting for example, to get your BP under control?

Gatherers in general struggle with BP, so I think it would be helpful to a lot of people here.
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Well I'll speak up for PT for a bit. She lost a lot of weight and literally walked her backside off. That and sticking to her diet.
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And, yeah, stress is another biggie. My ex has been a source of stress just by being himself, on top of causing me financial worries.

I think you saved the worst for last....... Anyone who hasn't had to go through what you are right now, is very fortunate indeed. Take care of yourself, Ruthie. You need to do it, not only for yourself, but for your children. You have my very best wishes!


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Actually all of my life my normal BP has been 100/60. In college they took it twice because they thought I was dead.

Anyway I know something is off it it goes higher than this. Weight does not matter for me-I was 100 lbs then and have been as heavy as 140 lbs. My BP has stayed the same, unless something was not right and I can tell when things are off.

Congrats on the new BP!


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I do have a treadmill, I just need to  clear some clutter from the floor around it so it's usable. I don't have TV access up here (that's an added monthly expense) but I do own a yoga DVD and have access to the public library's selection of exercise DVDs. I need to establish a routine that includes exercise.

And there's no point in taking the guy to court. He's been unemployed for a long time, so there are no wages to garnish. When he has money, he pays me. He's good about that.  I don't think he'll cut the money in half when DD1 turns 18 either. So taking him to court would be counter-productive. He's just not good about taking care of himself, keeping a job, etc. If I was still married to him, and he was unemployed for this long, I'd be in the same boat.


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To her it was important to set a fixed unalterable routine. Any dvd would do, those of tv series tend to be about 45 minutes since there are no commercials. They just act as a timer and a distraction.
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PT- Andrea did all the measurements. identified my fingerprints (with her then-17yo's son's help) and put all the info into a pro SWAMI. She then re-measured me last August when I was there for my secretor test. This SWAMI is as accurate as it can possibly be, unless I could afford to see an ND and have him or her manually make changes to it.

No, I haven't been exercising like I should. I think I need to make that a priority, even though I know I'm not strong enough for all that SWAMI reccomends for me. I may not be able to lose weight or acheive optimal health with a lower level of exercise, but I think that a minimum of half a mile (or 20 minutes of something else), 3 times a week, would probably help keep my depression and the worst of the fibro symptoms at bay.

And, yeah, stress is another biggie. My ex has been a source of stress just by being himself, on top of causing me financial worries.

Sounds like your SWAMI is as accurate as can be, so yes, I would say start exercising at least 20 mins, 3x per week.  Frankly, I have to strive for every day, although I occasionally miss a day.  I try for a half-hour walk, minimum, every day.  Some days (weekends), I do two or so HOURS at a clip.

Unfortunately, I'm realizing now that I should have changed it up over the last few YEARS instead of just walking, walking, walking, WALKING, as I think, while wonderful for my weight loss and management, I've done something horrible to my knees* (although they were already well on their way to decrepitude thanks to all the years of eating wrong plus having one leg shorter than the other, resulting in a weird stance, PLUS being obese.  Not a good combo.  I think now that I desperately need x-rays, yet I am in denial because I don't want the radiation, I don't want the interaction with the health care system and insurance, and frankly, I'm not sure I want to know, if they are going to say "Yup, you need a double knee replacement, ASAP!" or something.  ANYWAY, my point is:  change up the exercise routine, if you can.  I at LEAST should be keeping up with my chiro visits (should go once per month, haven't been in around a YEAR) and/or getting a therapeutic MASSAGE now and again (preferably NOW...and again  ).

* And to my right hamstring/hip/quad/sacral joint/entire knee-to-sacral-joint area.  Certain positions, like the yoga child pose, which I used to do all the time, are excruciating at times and the pain moves around that entire region, AND, the weirdest thing is:  before bending forward into child's pose, you simply sit on your heels, but I CANNOT straighten up to sit on my heels.  EXTREME PAIN.  Also, if I squat down, I cannot get back up (!) without holding onto something and going through a lot of ANGST *lol*.  Like my hamstring or SOMETHING is ...impossible to describe, as whatever it is MOVES AROUND, which makes me think it is bad, involving some sort of compressed nerve(s) and Goddess knows what.  Again, my method:  ignore it and hope it goes away.  It's been going on for several YEARS now, though, so my method is pretty much the definition of insanity *lol*.  Oh--and just lately--my knees, if I squat down or even bend down at all, like to pet a cat or dog or garden or WHATEVER, they make this, like, moving around sort of unstable, WACKADOO noise, accompanied by a strange, unstable, WACKADOO feeling.  NOT GOOD.  Again, my system is:  ignore it and pray for rain.  


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Well I'll speak up for PT for a bit. She lost a lot of weight and literally walked her backside off. That and sticking to her diet.

That sums it up succinctly, gcg!  Thanks for speaking up for me, as I never seem to be able to get back to the board in a timely fashion anymore.  Lord love a flamingo, I am making an effort lately to be here more, though.  I gotta tend to the home fire.  And this is home.  



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Twisty have you thought about trying kettlebells? Just look on youtube for a few examples but ignore the Greasy Guido from Jersey Shores.
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That sums it up succinctly, gcg!  Thanks for speaking up for me, as I never seem to be able to get back to the board in a timely fashion anymore.  Lord love a flamingo, I am making an effort lately to be here more, though.  I gotta tend to the home fire.  And this is home.  
Really great to see you back here too!! Not the same without you you know

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I always have high BP.

Nothing I can do to bring it down. It runs in the family. Everybody has high BP without exception. I tried arjuna, guggul, and carnitine with no difference. Maybe I'll try CoQ10 next month.
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What's your actual blood pressure numbers, if you don't mind sharing? It's possible that you actually have "higher than average, but healthy and normal for you" blood pressure, even if your doctor wants to label it "high."


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What's your actual blood pressure numbers, if you don't mind sharing? It's possible that you actually have "higher than average, but healthy and normal for you" blood pressure, even if your doctor wants to label it "high."


137/80

I'm not sure about the second number though.

I think it's a gatherer thing.
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I always have high BP.

Nothing I can do to bring it down. It runs in the family. Everybody has high BP without exception. I tried arjuna, guggul, and carnitine with no difference. Maybe I'll try CoQ10 next month.



I know Dr. D has things in his bag of tricks that would help--- I have seen him at work with patients.




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Twisty have you thought about trying kettlebells? Just look on youtube for a few examples but ignore the Greasy Guido from Jersey Shores.

Kettlebells!  Kettlebells!  It's Christmas time in the city, in the city!
Ring-a-ling!  Hear them ring!  Soon it will be Christmas day!



Oh...wait...we just had Christmas day.  I'm thinking of SILVER bells.  My bad!

As for kettlebells, you will be able to tell what a "gym rat" I'm NOT when I say:  never heard of 'em.  I will investigate them on YouTube when I'm on line from my cell phone at home.  Can't open videos at work.  And if I could, I wouldn't, as Cru would be out here in a NY minute to ring my kettle bell.

I am definitely ON IT, though, and will report back after checking 'em out.  I definitely need to expand my exercise portfolio.  Not only is it soooooooooooooooooooooooo much healthier for a bod to cross-train versus just doing the same thing day after day after day after YEAR, but frankly, if it ever gets to a point where I CAN'T walk, like if my knees give up the ghost, I need to DIVERSIFY.  If you have all your eggs in one basket, and the basket falls onto the ground, then you are eggless.  Not a good thing.

Dear GOD, they have unleashed some new hellish fragrance on us in here yet again.  I think it is someone's perfume this time, versus some unidentified hazardous chemical emanating from the warehouse downstairs.  But it is hard to tell them apart sometimes.  I'd better get some more hot water for more tea.  To the methylation mobile, Bat Girl!


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Really great to see you back here too!! Not the same without you you know

Okay, between that an another post you made recently (sent you a PM re that one), I must state with gusto:  you I love!  

I plan to be back on here more now.  I know I've said that several times in recent months and then proceeded to not be on much, but I had a talk last eve with our very own Jane (LOVE YOU, JANE!) and something she said (you know what you said, Jane) kind of sank in, and without going into Detail One, suffice it to say, I'm gonna be back on the board more.  Cruella willing and the crik don't rise.  Cruella actually ain't willing, and, as a matter of hideous fact, she has loaded me down with THE single most infuriating project--infuriating because it would have been totally unnecessary if they had just LISTENED to Kay and I a few years back on how we should do something, but no, so now we have to UNDO what they had us do back then, and REDO it a diff way, which will take MONTHS, and by "we", I mean "me", as Cru said the other day, ya know, I think I'm just going to have you do this, not Kay.  I've learned not to even try to figure out her insane reasoning on things, but what that means is, this will take around a YEAR of me working on it every second that I am not working on something else.  Bottom line:  I'm squeezing the board in ANYWAY, or I risk going completely insane, and then what good will I be to Cru?  Riddle me THAT!  What I'm saying is, my workload at work could still mean stretches of time that I'm not on here, but as far as other stuff (yes, I'm being intentionally vague, so let's trot along, shall we?) goes that has been distracting me, I'm back, babies.  Be afraid.  Be very afraid.  


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Okay, between that an another post you made recently (sent you a PM re that one), I must state with gusto:  you I love!  

I plan to be back on here more now.  I know I've said that several times in recent months and then proceeded to not be on much, but I had a talk last eve with our very own Jane (LOVE YOU, JANE!) and something she said (you know what you said, Jane) kind of sank in, and without going into Detail One, suffice it to say, I'm gonna be back on the board more.  Cruella willing and the crik don't rise.  Cruella actually ain't willing, and, as a matter of hideous fact, she has loaded me down with THE single most infuriating project--infuriating because it would have been totally unnecessary if they had just LISTENED to Kay and I a few years back on how we should do something, but no, so now we have to UNDO what they had us do back then, and REDO it a diff way, which will take MONTHS, and by "we", I mean "me", as Cru said the other day, ya know, I think I'm just going to have you do this, not Kay.  I've learned not to even try to figure out her insane reasoning on things, but what that means is, this will take around a YEAR of me working on it every second that I am not working on something else.  Bottom line:  I'm squeezing the board in ANYWAY, or I risk going completely insane, and then what good will I be to Cru?  Riddle me THAT!  What I'm saying is, my workload at work could still mean stretches of time that I'm not on here, but as far as other stuff (yes, I'm being intentionally vague, so let's trot along, shall we?) goes that has been distracting me, I'm back, babies.  Be afraid.  Be very afraid.  
Aww thanks!! Hey at least re the work Cruis piling on you only... it means you are as of now indispensible so can not be in risk of losing your job?? Just make sure & keep that BP down
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gcg, I just finally Googled kettlebells in Google images.  Are these they?


Those look doable, even without a workout video to accompany.  One could just kettlebell to the Oldies, so to speak!


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Interesting:

"Unlike traditional dumbbells, the kettlebell's center of mass is extended beyond the hand, similar to Indian clubs or ishi sashi. This facilitates ballistic and swinging movements.[4] By their nature, typical kettlebell exercises build strength and endurance, particularly in the lower back, legs, and shoulders, and increase grip strength.[1][4][3] The basic movements, such as the swing, snatch, and the clean and jerk, engage the entire body at once,[3] and in a way that mimics real world activities such as shoveling or farm work.[1][4][2]"

All good, interest piqued, but then we have this:

"The movements used in kettlebell exercise can be dangerous to those who have back or shoulder problems, or a weak core."

So I guess I should get a video after all, not that that ensures it won't show dangerous moves.

link/source of quotes:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettlebell


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Niacin in moderate to high levels can treat and aray of things including high BP.

Unsure wherever this is temporary or long lasting.

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gcg, I just finally Googled kettlebells in Google images.  Are these they?


Those look doable, even without a workout video to accompany.  One could just kettlebell to the Oldies, so to speak!


You can get one with a work out dvd included at Target. I'd gestimate that you would need to get a 10 pounder to start. If you had done weight lighting you might try 15 and work up to 20 but 10 for now.
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Good advice, I'd better start with 10.  I don't have a ton of upper body strength.  I know, a few years back (when I was still obese), lifting those 40-lb bags of soil from Lowe's for gardening projects nearly KILLED me...not so much initially lifting them, but SCHLEPPING them from Point A to Point B, *whew!*.  I'll start with 10 lbs.

Not a Target fan but I think I will pop there for these, as there is one right near where I work.  Thanks, gcg!  

p.s., you don't think I will hurt my back if I swing those around wrong, with my "weak core", as the Wikipedia page warns against doing, do you?  I think I should go for it.  Not sure I can view a DVD as the laptop I have won't necessarily let me log in (long story).


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Maybe even less than 10 pounds.....are there 5 pound ones?
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