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Gaz
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Are there any foods are helpful (hunter) in reducing dark circles under the eyes?  I was thinking I could be lacking in certain vits and minerals... Any ideas?
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reduce sugar, increase sleep.


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Often dark circles = allergies


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time on the diet will help
Are you sleeping well?


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Yeah, I usually sleep great and I always get my 8 hours or even more. I always drink alot of water, but also a lot of tea with a little bit of sugar with each cup. In all, my diet is fairly clean apart from the last month or so where I have been eating alot of chocolate..
  
Sugar is out from now on  
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Tea what type?


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Black tea - PG Tips (british tea) lol
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Dark circles are liver issues.. maybe a liver cleanse ? eat way more greens or make green juices.. dandilion by the bushel full -if you can get organic ones- for 8 weeks every day.. dark spots on the skin will get lighter too...

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Hunters CAN have chocolate, just not the commercial stuff with milk and sugar and possibly chemical preservatives. Cocoa powder in hot water with agave and/or molasses makes a tasty treat, and/or get some unsweetened baking chocolate. You can eat the baking chocolate plain if you like  the dark, bitter flavor, or melt it and stir in a compliant sweetener, then let it cool and eat. You can also put a spoonful of cocoa powder into yerba mate or green tea.

Get creative. If you're truly craving chocolate, then you can enjoy the benefits of chocolate without the "avoid" additives, and it's likely to keep you from nibbling on the stuff you shouldn't be eating.

Ideally, you should be drinking green tea unsweetened, perhaps with some compliant juice added. But if you MUST have it sweet, use agave (beneficial) or honey (neutral) in it rather than sugar (avoid.) Honey is usually pretty easy to find. And you shouldn't be drinking black tea at all! If you find yourself out and about, with few good choices, drink water!


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I had a brownish area around the eyes when  my liver was fatigued by wheat and gluten, nose and worse eye allergy then; since some times I was gluten and cow milk free ( sugar nearly 0) I cannot see the brownish area since many years. My liver was really acting as some enzymes were too high , though not as in a hepatitis


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Need some green tea-- no more black tea please.


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Cheers for the advice  

Regarding green juices for liver cleanse... Does anyone has any good recipes?
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Liver cleanse on pg 252 of the GT book

also the liver protocol is targeted to you
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm


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stop the black tea think of the all blacks and reduce sugar. get into drinking a good green tea.

eat compliantly - but sugar is the cause, whether its in the wrong type of chocolate or from wheat or whatever.

"British tea" is from china by the way lol


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stop the black tea think of the all blacks and reduce sugar. get into drinking a good green tea.

eat compliantly - but sugar is the cause, whether its in the wrong type of chocolate or from wheat or whatever.

"British tea" is from china by the way lol


Ohhh those chinese!!!!... I knew the brits would have made a more compliant tea  
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Regarding green juices for liver cleanse... Does anyone has any good recipes?

green foods concentrated in juice will matter no matter which one you like.. use only what is better the Neutral in the foods you can have.. you might be able to add carrots as well to make it tasty// but any effort will pay off.. start and practice to find one that you like.. I like bitter so dandelions is for me.. strong.. no more then 1/3rd glass at a time ...  


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Love kale, pineapple juice and apple-- sometimes I add ginger too.

I only use two leaves of kale, I use a blender and drink the veggie pulp.


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Nothing improves my circles.  I just use concealer.
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well i tested the fruit and a little wheat the other day not a lot of any other sugar all week, big itches on legs and big dark circles under the eyes. went back to little fruit and very compliant and as it happens a half days (morning fast due to forgetting to take by new intrinsai supps) circles gone. and the itching on the lower legs (mainly but elsewhere too a little)

so i suppose my next question would be do you itch when you have dark circles? if not then that probably the wheat, and if that's the case

go sugar and fruit free for a day or two and see what happens, if you get a positive response you may need to look at your sugar/insulin/levels and perhaps pre diabetes, perhaps do overnight fasting glucose test, take a quantity of glucose in the morning and check blood levels.

haven't done one myself yet so check the correct protocols first, assuming you have access to blood sugar monitor, i bought one for a giggle, may prove to be useful as i may have to do the same test.




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Nothing improves my circles.  I just use concealer.


Get rid of the Candida.
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Another product you can buy instead of sugar, Gaz, is xylitol...low g.i., acts as a prebiotic, protects teeth from decay etc.


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Andrea,
Please refresh my memory on black tea for BT A teachers. Why is it harmful?


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reduce sugar, increase sleep.


I have to agree with the sugar bit. I've been sneaking more agave & chocolate covered almonds into my days and have noticed the dark circles under my eyes get worse.

Sugar always does this to me.
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Another product you can buy instead of sugar, Gaz, is xylitol...low g.i., acts as a prebiotic, protects teeth from decay etc.


I would be wary of xylitol, any cheat will eventually have to be paid for. usually with candida in one form or another.

being a sugar alcohol it will may not be beneficial to fructose malabsorbers.



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Also have to watch the fruit/veg source it is from...
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Black tea was originally green tea.  The tea was cooked to survive the months voyage at sea, during the time of the tall ships.

Black tea is much like other smoked/well grilled food; the cooking cures troublesome compounds into an otherwise better food.

Black tea, smoked ham, and charred steak may be delicious but they build up toxins in your system.


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Get away from caffeine, esp coffee.

Caffeine makes my heart race and i cannot focus or sit still.  Increases stress chemicals like adernaline and cortisol and it robs energy reserves.

I feel like it does this to me anyway.
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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Love kale, pineapple juice and apple-- sometimes I add ginger too.

I only use two leaves of kale, I use a blender and drink the veggie pulp.




"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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I have them , my dad has them so I'm assuming it's genetics ..even  my eyelids are dark so not just under eyes ..a good concealer does the job  


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i also thought it was genetics.. i've had them my whole life...and same as BTypeAUS it also my upper eye / eyelids.

when i'm sleeping well they receed in colour but they never really go away. It's better when my congestion levels are low, better when i have fewer grains.


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Black circles can alse mean leaking capillaries that need healing. or need for vitamin K.


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I'm in the conventional medical field and the people with the worst dark circles are the Crohn's patients. It's almost like a flag waving "I've got bowel issues!"

I have had dark circles my whole life. But they have never been better than now. I am assuming that is because my gut is healing from being on this diet. Hunter, O secretor. No WHEAT.

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Thanks for sharing that Jennifer.


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that is really interesting. thanks jennifer!


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Yes Jenn, very helpful. Although I'm always moaning about my dark circles they have also never been better.

I must add though that since cutting down a bit more on sugar they have got better still, although there is definitely a link with wheat too.

Although it may just be me taking Intrinsa, seriously helps so many things i think.


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I'm in the conventional medical field and the people with the worst dark circles are the Crohn's patients. It's almost like a flag waving "I've got bowel issues!"

I have had dark circles my whole life. But they have never been better than now. I am assuming that is because my gut is healing from being on this diet. Hunter, O secretor. No WHEAT.

Jennifer


Wow! I have colitis and developed circles- thought originally I was just getting older, but am off nearly all medication for the last 5 months now (yey!!) and I think my circles are getting better!

That would make sense according to all the liver/ detox posts even though all my blood tests ( 4 per year) to test liver function over the last 13 years were always perfect  
I used to take 10 tablets a day!

Must explore the sugar connection more, as I probably eat more than I would like to admit  

Intention for 2012....endeavour to eat less sugar (in any form) every single day  
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Although I'm always moaning about my dark circles they have also never been better.

I must add though that since cutting down a bit more on sugar they have got better still, although there is definitely a link with wheat too.

Although it may just be me taking Intrinsa, seriously helps so many things i think.

All of these will assist gut healing, so should all be helping relieve the circles...  Keep working on it - the progress shows!


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I had a brownish area around the eyes when  my liver was fatigued by wheat and gluten, nose and worse eye allergy then; since some times I was gluten and cow milk free ( sugar nearly 0) I cannot see the brownish area since many years. My liver was really acting as some enzymes were too high , though not as in a hepatitis

Just to confirm no wheat and nearly no sugar, I repeat myself


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Maria,
Dark circles are one of the signs of allergies, too. I am like you..an A with gluten and cow dairy sensitivity...all add to my allergies!


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I followed the link to the liver support protocol and wondering about the directions to take Deflect B supplement between meals. I've been following the directions on the bottle which says to take with meals. Does anyone know if this matters? something particular as a protocol if you are liver detoxing? something else?


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with meals or between meals....both work to heal immediate lectin reaction as well as past lectin damage......no worries


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My understanding is that deflect with meals helps minimize damage from lectins in the current meal, while taking it between meals helps the body clear out old lectin damage.


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