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Seraffa
Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 5:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Women - have you found that if you switch to primarily fish and vegetarain fare, you don't get enough Iron?

Im asking it both because of the fish protien containing less iron than red/white meat, and also because Explorer women have heavy monthly menstrual cycles.

i am an A nonnie, and am of course suceptible to drops in iron if I'm not attentive.

This particular month I had to add an extra iron pill to my daily multivitamin.

Thanks


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Yes. Can you eat beef liver? I do get it as a diamond and it helps to eat a bit when on cycle and then the week after. A little goes a long way as it's quite rich. Iron pills are quite constipating for me. Dried unsulphured apricots as well as black strap molasses are high in iron and green leafy veggies. I take chlorella as well.
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luckily I'm over that point...some years earlier very   but I took special supps. to get balanced.....

and also lucky bum I seem to be, I can work into the orthomolecular amounts, so far + - instant success guaranted


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i was a vegetarian for about 7 years...almost killed me. I was so sick, overweight, and exhausted! My ferritin level was at 4.

When i first saw the book diet for explorer i was concerned that i wouldn't be getting enough iron, but happily my swami report gives me a significant amount in the way of iron rich meats and fish (and eggs). SWAMI's so clever!

there is no way i would ever go back to strictly fish/vegetarian. It was too hard on my body.


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O in Virginia
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I don't know.  I've never been able to do without red meat.  I didn't feel well when I tried because I thought I was being "healthy".  I can go for quite a while on fish and veggies and things, and then I just CRAVE a piece of red meat, a juicy burger or steak or something.  After I have it, I feel better.  But I don't think that has anything to do with iron per se.  I wish I liked liver, but I can't eat it.    I will eat maybe two bites of paté or "fancy" liver - fois gras (probably not compliant now anyway) - and then I still get that liver taste no matter how doctored up.  No can do.

Doing BTD/Swami I've discovered that I can eat small portions and frequencies of red meat and feel fine.  I do love fish and veggies, too.  I feel best on a varied diet.
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Sunday, December 11, 2011, 4:49am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I LOVE liver and am very happy to have calf liver as a neutral now!! Haven't indulged yet, but I WILL! If it isn't cooked right I detest it, but fresh calf liver that has been given TLC is a delicacy to me. My mother cooked the best I've ever eaten in my life. Wish I had some right now.


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mmm liver!

when i was young i hated it... but now realize it was just the way it was prepared. Since starting on GTD, liver is marked high for me, so i've tried including it in my diet. Surprised to discover i really like it!

tried a few different methods of prep...the best one that i've found is to cut the liver into very thin slices (i cut it when it's still partly frozen), soak it for at least 2 hours in goat milk, dredge it in rice flour seasoned with sea salt and oregano and to lightly fry in some olive oil. Served with sautéed onions and parmesean cheese. It's very tasty.

i always feel really peppy the next day!


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I am long past that stage, but back in the day I used to eat the parsley off everybody’s plate during my period.


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What I like about SWAMI is the way it fine tunes things.

Being Explorer is really tweaked by your bloodtype I think-- probably all Explorer Os and Bs who do Swami get liver (and of course red meat) as a bene or neutral, and Explorer As might not.

All that aside, I think that doing good stuff for your liver is really important. In my late 30s and 40s I had fibroids-- the only health issue the BTD didn't resolve for me. I had to resort to a hysterectomy in my early 50s.

I believe if I had had the Genotype info back then I probably could have gotten rid of them. At least one doctor writing in the holistic field in the 80s was sure it was a liver-toxicity issue.

As long as I eat meat I don't have iron deficiency problems, only when I was vegetarian... don't know what Dr. D recommends for As for that.
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Dianne
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My friend is an A Explorer and she gets goat,lamb, mutton & rabbit, 3x weekly as superfoods and marrow soup as a neutral.
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O in Virginia
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I'm not convinced I'm a really *real* Explorer.     I have certain Explorer traits that tip my swami that way, but I have a lot of Gatherer, too.  I think I'm both.  But I've checked all my boxes correctly the best I can, and it comes out Explorer, but only 38% - 40%, depending, so I'm going with it.
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I have a good friend who is an A Explorer as well... and she has terrible issues with both iron and B12 deficiency...she gets almost as much red meat as i do on her report.


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l'ordinateur
Friday, December 16, 2011, 4:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I also suffer with low iron but have only lamb allowed and that is a neutral, spa tone is a good iron supplement in the uk.
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Friday, December 16, 2011, 4:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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if there is no caribellis cusp present but incisor shovelling is. Does that mean that you are more genetically predisposed to eat meat? are most explorers like that?
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Friday, December 16, 2011, 4:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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i mean explorer a or ab blood types
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have only lamb allowed and that is a neutral


is this a swami report?
or do you mean the "one size fit all explorer diet" in the GTD book?

until you run a swami and perhaps even find out your subtype of A and secretor status, will you know for sure if your physiology is fit to have lamb or other beneficial animal protein

all these tests are available in the uk website
http://www.right4eu.com/product/category/4

here is more info
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24
hows and whys


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if there is no caribellis cusp present but incisor shovelling is. Does that mean that you are more genetically predisposed to eat meat? are most explorers like that?


i can ask my A-explorer friend what her teeth are like.

for me, i have both the cusp and the incisor shovelling... although both are on the minimal end of expression but they are there. i confirmed with my dentist on it.


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Lola, I am an explorer with the use of the swami express software and even though i ticked the box for low iron it says that the only red meat i can have is lamb and that is neutral.

Maybe it has given me iron and b12 alternative sources. I do not yet know my sub type but i am a secretor but cannot seem to put it in my avatar without also putting a subtype in which i don't know yet.


Zenphoenix , that would be interesting if you could find out, interesting to hear that you have minimal cusps , still unsure whether i could also have them as first molars are bumpy. However after originally seeing the carabelli's cusp picture i thought after all these years i couldn't have those and not noticed. I will ask the dentist also.
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Lola
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dd text in the personal message box on the profile information page in the member center.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?v-memberpanel/a-profile/s-profile/

displaying messages under the avatar:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1219018887/s-/s-new/#num1


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I discovered recently from my dentist (because I finally remembered to ask him) that I have a very subtle carabelli cusp, and when I entered it "present" in my swami it changed from 40% Explorer to 38%.  I have very distinct incisor shoveling, as well as something called talon buds, very small talon cusps, behind my incisors, and nobody seems to know much about those.
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Thanks, Lola but I can not find an option for the avatar only showing A positive , secretor without having to add the subtype which i don't know yet. I guess i will have to wait. One question, my swami didn't tell me what percentage explorer I am .How or where do you find the percentage?

Unsure whether I actually have a blindingly obvious carabellis cusp now that we are discussing the possibility that we could have subtle cusps on our teeth. I always thought first molars were supposed to be like this but now not so sure I think my carabellis cusp may be seriously present.

Talon buds just googled it, so interesting . Wonder if they evolved from talon like incisor teeth into shovelling teeth or something?
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add the A1.....most common.....if you turned out being an A2, you can always edit if you like


make sure you do not click on an abbreviated report when running swami

percentage should be around page 4 or 5


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Oh wow 50% , thats quite a bit, thank you!
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so now I've found my %centages....wow....

it seems I'm not devided into two or three, nope... I've got nearly all types... but sorry no gathunter nor tergath's

31% explorer
25% nomade
23% warrior
21%teacher

isn't that a beautiful harmonic fourcast(e)

btw.. it is written: 24points for BTD and only 6 for GTD..ahem yesss....


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Zenphoenix , that would be interesting if you could find out, interesting to hear that you have minimal cusps , still unsure whether i could also have them as first molars are bumpy. However after originally seeing the carabelli's cusp picture i thought after all these years i couldn't have those and not noticed. I will ask the dentist also.



so... i had lunch with my A-Explorer friend today.

she has both incisor shoveling and carabelli's cusp.

her cusp is actually more like a bump. Mine is more like a small pit with a very ledge above it.

her incisor shovelling is similar to mine. minimal but with distinct curled up edges and a hollow but shallow "spoon" look to it.

i think it's easy to not realize you have something weird in you mouth... you live with it every day all day for years and years. It's normal for you, feels normal, etc. It's not until you start examining it or if someone notices something that you notice its different.

I remember a few years ago i went in for mouth guard impressions. And when they did the bottom ones... the mold they used really hurt the inside part of my lower jaw (where the tongue lives). I commented on it, and the technician jumped and apologised and said that she forgot to look to see if i had "torii". I gave her a blank look and she explained that it was a bony growth that occurs in the mouth... sometimes on the top palette and sometimes on the inner part of the lower jaw. So we looked and she said "well no wonder it hurt... you have the biggest torii i've ever seen!" I always knew they were there but did not know it was unusual (I also have a small one on the top of my mouth). She let me look at her mouth... so weird to see a perfectly scooped out area under the tongue!



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Thanks for all your responses. I've been away awhile out of necessity, and I truly appreciate them.


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What I like about SWAMI is the way it fine tunes things.

Being Explorer is really tweaked by your bloodtype I think-- probably all Explorer Os and Bs who do Swami get liver (and of course red meat) as a bene or neutral, and Explorer As might not.

All that aside, I think that doing good stuff for your liver is really important. In my late 30s and 40s I had fibroids-- the only health issue the BTD didn't resolve for me. I had to resort to a hysterectomy in my early 50s.

I believe if I had had the Genotype info back then I probably could have gotten rid of them. At least one doctor writing in the holistic field in the 80s was sure it was a liver-toxicity issue.

As long as I eat meat I don't have iron deficiency problems, only when I was vegetarian... don't know what Dr. D recommends for As for that.


This SWAMI Explorer A-Type can have liver!! Only as a neutral, but I'm satisfied with that!


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