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Maja
Thursday, November 3, 2011, 10:16pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Greetings all:

A fitness trainer enamored of the "paleo" diet asserts that research shows that vegetables, eaten in excess, i.e. as in a normal vegetarian diet, will leach calcium from bones and increase the likelihood of osteoporosis and similar problems.  

Does anyone know if Dr D's research has addressed this allegation?

Seen credible research on this point?

Thanks for any input.

Maja


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Hi Maja,
I don't have an answer to your question.  But how much is considered excess?  Does the research say?  Interesting.  
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link us to the research then we can commnet


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Yeah...

Plus how many vegetarians (non BTD/GTD people) eat mostly vegetables? Many of them I have know are just carb whores.
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Not true if you eat only a raw food! The problem with eating only raw is related to tooth decay and the amount of sugary fruits you eat. Which can be up to 12 bananas a day. Brushing your teeth  is essential.


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These people say it is animal protein that leaches calcium.  

http://www.livestrong.com/article/248912-foods-that-leach-calcium/
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But we know from Dr D in LR4YT that eating meat and fish for Os let IAP rise, and this is  the enzyme to digest calcium and iron , ma be also other minerals, as spinach, green leaves and carrots with Beta-carotene for As


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But we know from Dr D in LR4YT that eating meat and fish for Os let IAP rise, and this is  the enzyme to digest calcium and iron , ma be also other minerals, as spinach, green leaves and carrots with Beta-carotene for As


Exactly!

Using a single data point is a one-size-fits-all approach. It is a useful place to start because it gives one an idea of where to look.

Fitting the diet to the person works better than fitting the person to a diet.
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That's right, folks! Avoid vegetables! They're bad for you! Danger, danger, danger!
(Now I've heard everything.)


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Greetings all:

Thanks for your comments.

I have not seen any research asserting that vegetables leach bone calcium.  I looked up the Paleo Diet.  I can't say that it's a fad, but it does seem to be another "one size fits all" approach.

This too shall pass.

I will continue on my SWAMI-gluten free-vegetarian path!

Maja



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Quoted from Maja
Greetings all:

A fitness trainer enamored of the "paleo" diet asserts that research shows that vegetables, eaten in excess, i.e. as in a normal vegetarian diet, will leach calcium from bones and increase the likelihood of osteoporosis and similar problems.  

Does anyone know if Dr D's research has addressed this allegation?

Seen credible research on this point?

Thanks for any input.

Maja


That's a very strange assertion. I ate more vegetables on a Paleo diet than I ever ate when I was a vegetarian, since I filled up on grains, beans, and cheese in my veggie days, and ate tons of leafy greens (in place of starchier veggies/grains/beans) in my Paleo days. Many leafy greens are high in calcium and other minerals! It's a "starchitarian" diet, low in many nutrients, that can lead to nutritional deficiencies.



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