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| Gayle |
| Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 3:59pm |
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Since explorers can eat rice, why not rice milk? Any insight? Thanks |
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ruthiegirl |
| Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 4:06pm |
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Because the body uses rice milk different than it uses rice. Something about the process of making rice milk- diluting the proteins and removing the fiber- changes the way the body processes it. |
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Lola |
| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 4:51am |
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make your own using your frequency guidelines....avoid gums, emulsifiers and additives as well as wrong oils and sweeteners used in the commercial type rice milk out there.....
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ruthiegirl |
| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 1:29pm |
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No Lola, I respectfully disagree with you here. If "rice milk" is an avoid, then all rice milks are to be avoided, even homemade with compliant ingredients.
I get rice milk as a superfood, yet I can't find a commercial product that's free of "avoid" oils in the ingredient list. So I make my own. My daughter gets almond milk as neutral- once again, I can't find any commercial almond milks without nasty additives. So I make almond milk for her, from just almonds and water (I used to add vanilla too, but that's a black dot so I stopped adding it.)
I get almond milk as an avoid, so I don't drink the almond milk I make (from home, with complaint ingredients) for my daughter. She gets rice milk as an avoid, so she doesn't drink the rice milk I make (from home, with compliant ingredients) for myself.
In many cases, Lola's advice is valid- make your own hummus from compliant beans if you can't have chickpeas, create vegetable soup with compliant vegetables, create compliant sauces, etc. But in the specific examples of rice milk and soy milk, you need to follow the ratings for those items, even if you make it yourself. |
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| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 1:40pm |
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 btw I prefer to use lactose free milk instead of the non-yummiciolous rice milk  |
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ruthiegirl |
| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 1:42pm |
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Lactose isn't the problem for most of us- there are other lectins in milk that are problematic. |
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| Gayle |
| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 8:54pm |
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Thanks, everyone! I have been on the Explorer diet for 2 years, and it has made a wonderful difference in my health. But I have never posted before. What kinds of things do you fellow explorers eat for breakfast? |
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| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 11:36pm |
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it was whilst using lactose free products that we initially realised Emily's problem was not lactose. It was about then that i began to realised that Dr D knew something others didn't, since then that continues to be the case more and more. and as i have said before i would have saved my self and Emily a year of heartache if i had listened better. |
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Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+), Lewis (a+ b-) Fructose Malabsorber. Explorer. Daughter (6) is O+(Non) Lewis (a+b-) (Fructose Malabsorption)62% Gatherer ?
I'm an Explorer 47 %. |
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Lola |
| Wednesday, October 26, 2011, 11:53pm |
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if rice is a beneficial, then rice milk is too or a neutral Gayle is asking if rice is allowed, why not rice milk......thus my very detailed answer......I do not give unfounded advice, fyi  Gayle, if you ever wish to run a swami on yourself, you will be given a true personalized value for the different forms of rice and thus rice milk particularly hope you get white rice as a neutral at least;) here s a link on how to make all types of faux milk, substitute by using your compliant grains, seeds, nuts or even legumes.... http://members.tripod.com/~iskra/nomilk/altmilk.htm |
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| Thursday, October 27, 2011, 12:46am |
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here is a link on how to make all types of faux milk, substitute by using your compliant grains, seeds, nuts or even legumes.... http://members.tripod.com/~iskra/nomilk/altmilk.htm......... From Lola I love it when we can get around the mores of these companies that want to force stuff on us that we don't want. Too much sugar, too many additives. That old carrageenan that is poison to some of us. I have been wanting to cook some brown rice and put the whole mess in my processor with filtered water and see if there are any other ingredients that would make it palatable as a drink. The bought stuff is awful to me. The best drink I ever made at home was cultured homemade soy milk. That was sooo good! I will look into these "faux" milks, Lola! |
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| Thursday, October 27, 2011, 1:10am |
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| Thursday, October 27, 2011, 2:22am |
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Great link Lola. I've been wondering about how to make rice milk and it's so easy now that I have this information. Many thanks! |
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| Thursday, October 27, 2011, 3:29am |
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paul clucas |
| Sunday, October 30, 2011, 2:22am |
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Hi Gayle. I prefer to do a mixed stir fry: mushrooms & turkey, bok choy & beef, or onions & radishes & salmon with chilli/curry spice. The richest protien is better at breakfast I tende to use the auxiliary protien sources at dinner: beans and egg. Plenty of vegetables with caution on the fruit and grains. |
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O in Virginia |
| Sunday, October 30, 2011, 3:49pm |
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On my swami (40% explorer) rice is a diamond, rice milk is a black dot avoid, or something to avoid for sixty days and then proceed with caution. I haven't tried it again since doing swami. I may try some for making hot chocolate this winter and see how it goes. |
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