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Ahhh... yes. I have a lot of problem metabolizing most supplements, vitamins, medications, etc.
i have found that my SWAMI eating plan helps a lot. There is a liver cleanse that i do about every 6-7 weeks or so... it's nasty as sin, but it works.
basically... the day before my cleanse I drink a lot of apple juice the day (4 or 5 - 8 oz glasses) and eat only salad and fruit. Before bed, i drink 2 tsp of sea salt mixed in about 8 oz warm water. Chug it down. Then I take 2 Tbsp of olive oil and chase it with 2 Tbsp of lemon juice (all of this is organic, BTW).
Then i lay on my right side and visualize my liver cleansing itself. I usually end up going to the bathroom numerous times.
next morning i take the hottest 20 minute shower i can stand.
You can also add a castor oil pack when you lay down. I travel so much that i don't always have ready access to castor oil.
If i am really stuck and don't have time to do a cleanse, i will take milk thistle and drink dandelion root tea, which helps some.
oh and yes, actually, beets are very good for detoxing the liver. I have found that making a raw beet salad (with grated ginger and carrots) is tasty and helps support the liver. |
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| Friday, January 13, 2012, 10:35pm |
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I've done a few of the three day cleanses that end up with the lemon/olive oil and was amazed at the stuff that came out even after having my gallbladder removed. A doctor told me that one can still have some in the bile ducts and that stones get imbedded in the liver as well. I believe it after what I purged! Now I seem to do well with lecithin granules and Dr. D.'s Hepatiguard. And of course SWAMI... It is such a blessing to have my digestive system mostly sorted out. And oh yes...ginger helps immensely...I juice it and freeze it and thaw small amounts out for the week...add hot water and lemon and sometimes honey. |
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| Friday, January 13, 2012, 11:27pm |
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Welcome SBGGJRP & thanks for the reminder about the beets... Darn,  that is the one thing I forgot to put on my shopping list yesterday  |
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Easy E |
| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 4:23am |
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I need to be careful with things i use. Aloe gels work well for me it seems, but they are recommended for A's. Helps to take a very small amount at first to let you body get used to it.
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| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 5:56am |
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It is funny that you mentioned this. I just today was cleaning out our old collection of pain killers, cold medications, etc., and none of it had been used in the last ten or more years except an aspirin a few times a year! My trash can is full of pills that were not needed! Only a bottle of aspirin is left in the cabinet! Another time to marvel over the benefits of these diets! If I ever use anything for pain it is topical and only needed if I overdo something. |
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| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 9:41am |
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My trash can is full of pills that were not needed!
Where are you going to dump them? Don't want all those nasties in the water ways??!! Some chemists have places to dispose of unwanted medication...  |
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Amazone I. |
| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 10:19am |
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| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 2:40pm |
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SBG, I'm a Teacher, but sometimes swami comes out explorer depending on health issues I put in. I do well with herbs, but find they haven't brought my liver enzymes down and have been eating beets. What serving size do you eat 1 cup?? less? thanks, Lin |
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| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 2:40pm |
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Where are you going to dump them? Don't want all those nasties in the water ways??!! Some chemists have places to dispose of unwanted medication... 
Our local municipal trash disposal doesn't have anything to do with waterways, I'm happy to say. |
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| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 3:14pm |
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[quote=1494]Easy E... on the first page you are mentioning *energy goes to*... what kind of energy are you talkin about  ... I was referring to chi like in chinese medicine. It says when the liver is overtaxed, digestion will be slowed down and heat will rise causing things like heartburn and irritability, etc. This really happens to me it seems like that is why when i read about it it made sense to me. |
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| Saturday, January 14, 2012, 6:38pm |
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I was referring to chi like in chinese medicine. It says when the liver is overtaxed, digestion will be slowed down and heat will rise causing things like heartburn and irritability, etc. This really happens to me it seems like that is why when i read about it it made sense to me.
Makes all the sense in the world to me too! |
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| Sunday, January 15, 2012, 4:52pm |
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Lin, I eat about 3/4 cup of beets about 3 or 4 times a week. Thanks everyone for the liver cleanse suggestions. |
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Amazone I. |
| Sunday, January 15, 2012, 6:26pm |
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Seraffa |
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I've done a few of the three day cleanses that end up with the lemon/olive oil and was amazed at the stuff that came out even after having my gallbladder removed. A doctor told me that one can still have some in the bile ducts and that stones get imbedded in the liver as well. I believe it after what I purged! Now I seem to do well with lecithin granules and Dr. D.'s Hepatiguard. And of course SWAMI... It is such a blessing to have my digestive system mostly sorted out. And oh yes...ginger helps immensely...I juice it and freeze it and thaw small amounts out for the week...add hot water and lemon and sometimes honey.
Dr. Hulda Clarke up in Canada wrote the same thing.....showed pictures in her book "The Cure for All Diseases" that we can have hundreds of tiny stones in our livers because of the body's desire to surround clumps of diseased cells and "calcify" them to prevent further disease from progressing....I have not done this cleanse yet but will soon! The expelled stones from the bile ducts were of all odd shapes and sizes. She says expect to feel as if marbles are slowly rolling out of you.....and to do the cleanses REGULARLY....but not too closely together. God, is the human body not FANTASTIC in its ability to cope with disease???!!! |
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Easy E |
| Monday, January 16, 2012, 1:40pm |
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How do you do the cleanse? Is it like the one in the gtd book? |
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| Monday, January 16, 2012, 7:01pm |
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How do you do the cleanse? Is it like the one in the gtd book?
Can't cross-reference right now as I am overloaded with work at home today, but here's Dr. Clark's advice and Cleanse: Cleanse your liver twice a year, but EVERY 2 WEEKS TILL 1000 STONES COME OUT.. 2000 STONES IF YOU HAVE ALLERGIES, BURSITIS OR UPPER BACK PAIN If you suspect your liver has parasites, go thru a killing program before this cleanse. Do a kidney cleanse also if possible. Redo your dental work too; get all metal out. This is to avoid reloading the liver with burden of immediate toxins right after your cleanse. 4 TB epsom salts 1/2 c. olive oil 3/4 cup FRESH pink grapefruit juice l-Ornithine caps: 4-8 of them to ensure you sleep at night "MUST HAVE" ! large plastic straw pint jar with lid 1. Choose a time when you have a whole day off the next day in order to rest 2. No vitamins, herbs or medicines allowed 3. NO FAT BREAKFAST AND LUNCH ONLY on day of cleanse; salt allowed only (allows bile to build up for the flush) DAY OF CLEANSE 2PM: no eating or drinking after this time. Take epsom salts and mix in 3 C. water and pour into a jar; makes 4 3/4 cup servings PUT IN FRIDGE TO GET ICE COLD 6PM: drink one serving epsom salts. get out the olive oil and grapefruit to warm to room temp. 8PM: another serving of epsom salts. DO YOUR CHORES NOW so that you can rest tomorrow; timing is critical. 9:45PM: put 1/2 cup olive oil into your pint jar and squeeze in the grapefruit, removing any pulp, resulting in at least 1/2 to 3/4 cup juice - if less top it off with unsweetened lemonade. close jar tightly and shake till emulsified. 10:00 to 10:15 PM timing is critical! Drink the oil/juice you have just made and take 4 ornithine caps with the first sips; all 8 if you already suffer from insomnia. DRINK STANDING UP ONLY - GET IT ALL DOWN IN 5 MINUTES LIE DOWN IMMEDIATELY try to keep perfectly still for 20 minutes. There will be no pain. Go to sleep if you want. AFTER 6am NEXT MORNING; take 3rd dose of cold epsom salts; you can go back to bed ---- expect productive diahrrea this morning and use a flashlight to look in toilet bowl for green, brown, tan stones. Count the stones.The pea green kind are from liver bile."Chaff" of cholesterol crystals, tan colored, can be floating on the water as well and its just as important as getting the stones out. ------- 8AM: take last dose of epsom salts 10 AM: you may have fruit juice 10: 30 AM you may have fruit 11AM you may have a light meal like the day before SUPPERTIME; you should have recovered |
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| Monday, January 16, 2012, 8:27pm |
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O in Virginia |
| Monday, January 16, 2012, 8:29pm |
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I'm glad you quoted that. I did try the Explorer detox once, but I never felt anything really happened. I was like...is this all there is?  I have been concentrating on my swami diamonds, and I'm hoping that is naturally detoxing my liver as I go, and not re-toxing is probably a good idea, though I do eat some things I shouldn't sometimes.  |
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| Monday, January 16, 2012, 9:52pm |
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be all aware about resonances... if we think that we are....your body will react to it... especially the O'bodies... this might cause stress-responses...inutile stress responses   ; we've to be also aware about compulsive mechanismes, no worth to underline such behaviour  .... mankind is very creative but our minds somehow tricky....so far we mustn't think that we always have to... interact to,,,, etc.... ther's a beautiful inner wisdom in all of us...   |
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O in Virginia |
| Monday, January 16, 2012, 10:09pm |
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Yes, or as I like to say, Amazone, "a watched pot never boils."  |
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Seraffa |
| Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 12:25am |
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Ok....but the above recipie was for flushing out gallstones from the liver....can you imagine how long it will take for gallstones to break down from their calcified state...containing tiny nucleuses of dead diseased cells.....and then your liver and kidneys having to somehow get rid of it? Considering my past record of bulimia as my body was trying to rid itself of toxins...I would opt for a flush every now and then! |
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O in Virginia |
| Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 12:47am |
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Well, I'm sure it doesn't hurt, Seraffa. It's a gentle cleanse, just a bit messy with the cod liver oil pack all night and the heating pad.  |
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| Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 2:11am |
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It's a gentle cleanse, just a bit messy with the cod liver oil pack all night and the heating pad. 
Dr. D's Explorer cleanse recommends castor oil... |
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O in Virginia |
| Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 8:21am |
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Dr. D's Explorer cleanse recommends castor oil...
Yes, thank you! That's what I meant.  |
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