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ayaka
Friday, June 6, 2014, 10:46pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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this rhodiola sounds really potent and wonder-drug sort of thing, are there any side effects at all?

I just made green tea to purge out some 'toxins' and oh boy i'm having the jitters -.- (random)


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I look for increased anxiety, excitability, more easily agitated, and not being able to fall asleep as side effcts of any supp I use.

I read it is low side effect and low toxicity compared to similar things  but can increase irritability in some and don't take it too late I read.  But I seem to feel calmer and steadier, not getting that irritating surge or letting little annoyannces rattle me and fly off handle.  Anxiety induced road rage for me is not so bad.  seems as of yet to level me out.

Ill keep watching.  My wife would let me know if it is giving me a bad effect!
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When I was under severe stress a few years back, I took Rhodiola in the morning and at lunch as per my naturopath. He suggested to not take it at dinner time and to use a product called Relora, one at dinner time, the other at bedtime. The Rhodiola made stress - roll off the back like water on a duck's back and I could handle all in stride. The Relora helped to have a wonderful, deep sleep.

My husband has it in his one of his Hunter pack vitamins.

Apparently Ashwaganda is suppose to be amazing. Many people I know of all blood types seem to do well on it and I believe that Amazone I, Isa who posts here highly recommends it.  
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Quoted from ayaka
this rhodiola sounds really potent and wonder-drug sort of thing, are there any side effects at all?

I just made green tea to purge out some 'toxins' and oh boy i'm having the jitters -.- (random)


I myself had to give a month to adjust to green tea. When I first took it it upset my stomach. it was actually bringing toxins out of my stomach area. I could barely sip it but everyone kept encouraging me to sip and it did build up well. I was very proud that I could drink it normally, every day, after 30 days. I'm sure your body will find a leveling point.


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ty!

is calcium G glucarate different from a normal calcium supplement? i haven't really looked into the full range of Dr. D supps.

I'm taking dandelion leaf tea on a daily basis which helped to expel quite a fair bit of water from my swolleness


I would pay attention only to the first sentence of this statement: http://examine.com/supplements/Calcium-D-Glucarate/ -- because Dr. D wouldn't recommend it for Explorer detox if it wasn't so.

The D'Adamo supplement store is closed right now, but Dr. D. mixes it with a plant derivative that is different, yet works well along with the calcium D glucarate for moving things out of the system. I couldn't find said plant derivative locally, so I decided to use up what I have left of milk thistle and dandelion daily. I happen to take 250 mcg daily (2 pills). The bottle only recommends one pill - but I saw consistent improvements in mood and alertness with 2 pills. But now also my mense has turned into a prolonged cleanse of "other stuff." I have no idea where the "other stuff" is coming from but if it is still aggressive after the mense, I'll drop back by 1 pill. Because I can't remain hurting and expect to start physical exercise again.


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Okay, thanks all for convincing me that I gotta get back on the rhodiola!  




misspudding

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Me: Celiac type gut problems; seizure disorder; MTHFR
DH: O positive
DS: O negative; "atypical" IBD - SWAMI 44% Explorer

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Rooibos tea is also an excellent alternative for explorers to coffee and caffeine ated tea.  Helps the liver and is calming and nutritious.
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anxiety...go ahead for passion flower and/or cholin & inositol;) I think Rhodiola is best for O's as an antistress adaptogen.... ...next:look into the book *wisdom of the enneagram* and learn how all those types do manage their own fears and anxieties...much better to learn to cope with it...instead anything else ...

ps.

some internal taken (and authorized;) ) essential lavender oil can do the trick as well ...during your *learning process* ...


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Quoted from Amazone I.
anxiety...go ahead for passion flower and/or cholin & inositol;) I think Rhodiola is best for O's as an antistress adaptogen.... ...next:look into the book *wisdom of the enneagram* and learn how all those types do manage their own fears and anxieties...much better to learn to cope with it...instead anything else ...

ps.

some internal taken (and authorized;) ) essential lavender oil can do the trick as well ...during your *learning process* ...


I will look into those.  Rhodiola seems to be quite helpful to me as of yet in helping me adjust to early morning work and for preventing excess adrenal activity in response to aggravations, which for A's has potential to become excess cortisol if the adrenaline is stimulated often (mine is prob either low or mod. high, never checked it).  The cortisol clears adrenaline.  Rhodiola balances the adrenaline cortisol balance to healthy levels without causing extra stimulation.

Also my mom is a hunter and we handle stress almost exactly the same way My dad is an AB nomad and nothing phases him or at least he will not reveal it.  I think my sis is a B explorer or a nomad!!

I will definately check out that book, sounds interesting
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all right and fine ... we need to learn how we all do create our own fears....all this is due to our interactings of our so called shadow's ... and I think it is really very usefull to learn how we can cope with this instead of thinking about so called: enemy pictures... ... this is the culprit due to...and that is... trallala & cha-cha-cha... of course are you right...all about stressy symptoms... but first we do need to learn how NOT allowing stressy situations to overwhelm us ....and also how do we create our own fears... coz + - all might be home made by psyche patterns ....

once this is recognized... no faer is capable to overwhelm us anymore! Once understood...especially for us the explorers ...the better and easier all becomes ...


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ayaka
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maybe i'll try rhodiola when i'm reallly tensed. Not sure if my local stores will carry them. Great input from all of you :p


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This O Explorer say   "thumbs up" to the Rhodiola.
Unfortunately, I hear that it interferes with warfarin, so right now I am off the Rhodiola. I miss it!




The sun, with all those planets around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do.

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any B explorer taking it and find that it works? hehe I'm only seeing A n O posting about it lol


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Quoted from ayaka
maybe i'll try rhodiola when i'm reallly tensed. Not sure if my local stores will carry them. Great input from all of you :p

I didn't notice its anti-anxiety effect right away, not like with passion flower and valerian root.  But when I took it regularly for a few weeks, I noticed a lack of obsessive, anxiety-inducing thoughts.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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I didn't notice its anti-anxiety effect right away, not like with passion flower and valerian root.  But when I took it regularly for a few weeks, I noticed a lack of obsessive, anxiety-inducing thoughts.


do you get 'dependant' on it? for e.g., if you do not take do you feel the effects crawling back?


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wondering is it would help my hubby (AB) I am sure he is an explorer and he will keep himself up with obsessive, anxiety-inducing thoughts
I love going places but I hate some of the stuff I get into. going to need a detox after this last one :p feeling draggy and having bowel issues so I will  need to eat/take all my gut healers for a while.


nothing to do? who has that!?
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I find it to work mentally almost exactly as gingko did, which means pretty effective.  Really cuts anxiety and such for me and helps the stress response.  I find gingko literally took my vertigo and fear of heights away and it never came back after that first time i used it (gingko i think is a positive for A's though).

I plan to order some explorer catylst or activator after i run out of my rhodiola. I figure Dr. D spends his whole day finding what works best for us while i just kill some boredom at work doing it on down times
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I know they both help with focus, as in i read most or all the posts fully before putting in a comment or response hahaha!!!
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Update on my experience with rhodiola.  I find that a dose of 500mg a day increased anxiety, seemed ti elevate my blood pressure,  and actuallt detracted from my stress handling abilities.  It also gave me weird dreams, which I never get.

I hear low doses sedate and higher ones stimulate.  500mg is definitely too much for me.  I may be better off without it for now .
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Easy E...well observed .... perhaps might it be better to come along with tincture ....


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Quoted from Amazone I.
Easy E...well observed .... perhaps might it be better to come along with tincture ....


Like a rhodiola tincture?  

At first it felt really good and helped a good bit with stress and keeping my cool ...i think it built up too much and took too much at one time with 500mg.

Perhaps i should try ashwaganda.  Never heard of it till a few weeks ago, just like with rhodiola!!


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do you get 'dependant' on it? for e.g., if you do not take do you feel the effects crawling back?
No, not at all.  After taking maybe two or three bottles several years ago, I stopped taking it and never really needed it again.  Sorry for the late reply!



My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Oh HECK....what is "this":

Re-reading a copy of the Genotype Diet, it says "liver detox for Explorers are often ineffective"


WHAT    WHY    WHEN    WHERE   HOW      my God, makes us sound like a walking toxic dump of some mysterious sort....


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Easy E... good idea and give a try to a smaller amount and then you might go for more after a while...As being an explorer better to come along with smaller dosages... and yesssss and nooo... Ashawaganda is working differently to Rhodiola.... especially for males ...


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I believe rhodiola to be an outstanding herb for explorers as a genotype for better patience, better energy, and mood.  It is cooling, drying, and sweet which explorers need.  Patience on the road amazed me, no road rage.  I believe any blood type explorer can use this herb regularly with good effect.  It does slow caffeine metabolism so avoid a lot of caffeine with it if you are esp sensitive.   Great for pitta types.

Ashwagandha seems to work excellent for me esp in the early morning or evening, but not as good in the middleof the day where my patience is lowest esp. In the hot Louisiana summers.  I sleep great and reset my body clock with this herb where nothing else helped.   Blood type A explorers probably would benefit most from this herb, esp males.  This is a heating herb, bitter and sweet, not as drying as rhodiola.  Great for vata and kapha types, can aggravate pitta if too much taken.

I mixed the two at the same time, but the results are far better if I take one or the other, not both together.

This is from personal experience and reading.

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