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Amazone I.
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I use essential oils as a form of perfume.... and there are some beautiful oriental essences I only can recommend for mind purifications ....


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Think your safe in your own house? Well, I had a plumber in today and he was nice, courteous but oh! the scent of his clothes. I have smelled strong detergent and softeners on people's clothes before, but this one takes the cake! It seemed even more potent than actually standing in the detergent aisle in a grocery store. I felt quite buzzy and rattled by the time he left. I could not sit still or concentrate and so I made myself bake a new recipe that I had been wanting to make for some time. That seemed to settle me down but all I could do for the rest of the evening was be a couch potato!

It's hard to believe that some people are not affected by this. I guess if the world was made up primarily of Explorers, it would come to a screeching halt if we were all smucked by scents at the same time!  
I can sooo relate to this!! Nice to hear other people go through this exact same reaction - I feel couch potatoey for days after this sort of exposure... Even a trip to the shopping mall can render me unable to function on top par for a couple of days!! Btw if the world was full of explorers then we wouldn't "make" these sort of scents etc...
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I use essential oils as a form of perfume.... ....

Quoted from Spring
I had some a while ago that smelled out of this world. Didn't bother me at all. Some perfumes really bother me, but not as excessively as it does other people I know - who break out in rashes, etc., for instance.
Well for me it is most of (not all, thankfully) the essential oils that break me out in a rash/oozing hives etc (certainly when I was being exposed to them jut about every day Other perfumes can do the same &/or make my head whoozey or give me a really bad headache (put me in a restaurant of different people's scents & throw msg into the mix & it lasts for 3 days)
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Dianne
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I can sooo relate to this!! Nice to hear other people go through this exact same reaction - I feel couch potatoey for days after this sort of exposure... Even a trip to the shopping mall can render me unable to function on top par for a couple of days!! Btw if the world was full of explorers then we wouldn't "make" these sort of scents etc...



Well I guess you have a point the majority would rule and we'd have to be on the scent trail for those making 'bootleg scents'!  

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E why don't you take things Easy like your name says? lol. Thats the coffee bothering your thyroid gland I think. A few sips of decaf only if you want a few more digestive enzymes!


I last drank coffee wednesday.  I am gonna stay away from all of it for a good while decaf or not.  I Got past the point of craving it.  I was drinking like 2 to 3 cups a day  because it is there all day where i work.  I have felt "cleaner".  

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I can't beleive how much of this thread I can relate to, even though SWAMI calls me a Gatherer. I seem to have both the Gatherer and the Explorer health issues. Meanwhile, my oldest daughter really is an Explorer but she doesn't have any of these environmental sensitivities (or, at least, they're not nearly as severe as mine; she's grown up free of most of these chemicals since I kept them out of the house for my own sake.)


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Possum
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Good on you Ruthie!! Btw I didn't have half the environmental sensitivities I have now, when I was a kid...Quite a few but not all...
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Dianne
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Ruthie - my chemical sensitivities showed up in my 30's after using some product to clean vinyl/leather - I think it was called 'Armor All". I virtually gained 10 lbs. the next day - I was so puffy and went to see a naturopathic doctor. My lymph system was so backed up...ever since then, major sensitivities. After that, I began using either Shaklee or Amway products for cleaning in the house and for laundry.

I bet your other genes are Explorer just like I think my other ones are Gatherer. Your daughter is fortunate that you don't use chemical cleaners in the house and I hope she maintains that for herself when she is on her own.
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Possum please explain....what happened with you and those oils and how and for what for did you used them....... yiikes the very first time I must take notice about such issue... I know that normally the A's and even sometimes B's might have problems with harsh or better said excentric smells like perfumes (almost chemical bombs... I think )


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I use essential oils as a form of perfume.... and there are some beautiful oriental essences I only can recommend for mind purifications ....


Pray, do tell. Thanks.
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Ruthie - my chemical sensitivities showed up in my 30's after using some product to clean vinyl/leather - I think it was called 'Armor All". I virtually gained 10 lbs. the next day - I was so puffy and went to see a naturopathic doctor. My lymph system was so backed up...ever since then, major sensitivities.
Oh my!! I remember using Armour All but  along time ago & just the once, so no reaction back then...
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Possum please explain....what happened with you and those oils and how and for what for did you used them....... yiikes the very first time I must take notice about such issue... I know that normally the A's and even sometimes B's might have problems with harsh or better said excentric smells like perfumes (almost chemical bombs... I think )
Here is an excerpt from some notes I wrote a while back re this issue..."I always have been sensitive to both sulphur & sulphites & alcohol & can get headaches from particular perfumes, air fresheners etc... Certain plants are naturally high in sulphur, & more so I imagine, when the oils are distilled, so I am now trying to figure out of it is a sulphite or sulphur reaction? Or also a potential reaction to the ethanol/alcohol used in extraction?!? But from talking to them & further research, looks like it could well be the high concentration of phenols in the plants themselves that are the real problem..."  

Plants/fruits etc (as we all know) have a long list of naturally occurring properties, that may cause irritants to us Explorer nonnie types... Monoterpenes, (chemicals found in most essential oils, with citrus oils having a very large percentage of them &  are colourless and highly volatile),  Sesquiterpenes, Phenols, Alcohols, Ethers / Esters, Ketones, (which in large doses, can be a poison to the nervous system & can cause miscarriage, convulsions, and even epileptic fits), Coumarins & Aldehydes (which can be quite harsh, and posibly cause major irritation to both the skin and mucous membranes)
Interesting reading here in both these links... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8565250
http://www.allergy-details.com/chemical-sensitivity/phenol/ http://www.desbio.com/phenolics-intro.html
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thats fascinating about phenols , didn't have a clue about that!
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Dianne, please have an eye on this: the big lexicon of the healing gemstones,essential oils and herbs this is a book from Methusalem GmBH in Neu-Ulm in Germany >ISBN no.: 3-9804431-0-8 but this is only in teutonic language, I'm sure that it must be also available in english language... sorry but I can't offer a working internet link... but I must say this is one of the best explanations of psychosomatic interactions and essential oils.... btw... Patricia Davis, an english lady, I presume, does also give excellent advices...
But I also can give you mine of my old and long experience   in working with those stuffs.....if this might be you wish

Possum, thanx for the explanations, ok those mentioned ingredients can be the culprit but not the texture of organic oils I presume..... I never have had any client, not even myselve who's extremly sensitive to all kind of stuffs, who re-acted onto organic essential oils....not true... there are some few oils I don't use coz of their toxicity :  thuja,Ysop and campher ... those aren't my friends at all ........


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Sensitivity is good because it can protect you from toxins that others do not perceive.  That is my thoughts!
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Amazone - I would be interested in your experiences and perhaps try to find the books later. Thanks.

Someone told me how when they were younger, their mother would breed a certain species of canaries. She had warned him months before to never light scented candles as it was dangerous for the birds. Well, being a teenager, when she was away one evening he decided to relax, have a drink, light a few candles. The next morning he was shocked to find 3 very sick canaries and two dead ones in the bottom of the cage! He wants to do the SWAMI next month and we go onto the Explorer topic and knows about my sensitivities. He said he'd make sure not to put on cologne.

If I go into someone's home and they have those Glade Scent devices plugged into the wall, I have to ask them to unplug them. Those are absolutely brutal. And those commercials for Febreeze are scary as well!!!

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Amazone - I would be interested in your experiences and perhaps try to find the books later. Thanks.

Someone told me how when they were younger, their mother would breed a certain species of canaries. She had warned him months before to never light scented candles as it was dangerous for the birds. Well, being a teenager, when she was away one evening he decided to relax, have a drink, light a few candles. The next morning he was shocked to find 3 very sick canaries and two dead ones in the bottom of the cage! He wants to do the SWAMI next month and we go onto the Explorer topic and knows about my sensitivities. He said he'd make sure not to put on cologne.

If I go into someone's home and they have those Glade Scent devices plugged into the wall, I have to ask them to unplug them. Those are absolutely brutal. And those commercials for Febreeze are scary as well!!!
Those poor canaries Wonder how sensitive he is, if he can wear cologne & that Febreeze?? A few years ago, I used a whole container up on a bed that had been stored against a wall & I used to regularly use those Glade plug ins whenever we had visitors, which was pretty frequently back then...??!! No wonder my sensitivities have increased in recent years
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Since this thread is called "Explorer Support" I'm going to post my rambling here, in the hopes that someone can offer some insight. I've been doing BTD on and off for the past few years, more strictly for the past year. In the past month I've started with genotype. Assuming I've done all the calculations correctly, and after double and triple-checking, I believe I'm an Explorer. I immediately began integrating the beneficials into my daily diet -- collard greens/kale/swiss chard smoothies, macadamia nuts, spelt bread, etc., etc. I have just recently started taking milk thistle as well. I am concerned because I don't feel any noticeable difference for the better. If anything, I feel more irritable and irregular, loss of energy, and bloated. I am trying to be patient, but I can't help but wonder if I should go back to BTD when I felt much better, or if maybe I picked the wrong genotype (but I really don't think that's the case).

I admit that I do cheat more often than I should and have too many avoids, but when I did that on BTD it was fine and I bounced back fairly quickly. Now it seems like maybe that's taking more of a tole? I work out 4-5 times a week. I avoid coffee now. I avoid wheat pretty well. Really, the main area I struggle with is sugar, I guess.

Another area I've been weak is black dots. I guess I've kind of thought of them as something not to avoid, but to limit. But in reality, I don't limit them that much. Maybe this is the solution... avoid black dots?

Does anyone have any useful advice to offer? Or can anyone relate to my situation?

Thanks and I appreciate your thoughts.  
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Some people cannot cheat, period! If I were to eat an orange, for instance, (which is an avoid for me) I could be sure that I would not sleep that night because of the pain in my body. Just one orange would do this. Grapefruit would do almost the same thing even though it is a diamond for me. On the other hand tangerines, which are a diamond too, are wonderful, and I do very well with them. It would be impossible for the diet to address every single issue without guidance from a professional. So we play detective ourselves if none are available! Some people are more sensitive to gluten than others. If they eat a tiny bit of it, their entire digestive system goes crazy. I am that way with lactose unless I supplement with lactase. I completely ignore the avoid list, including its black dots except to make sure a food that is unusual for me isn't on it! There are so MANY wonderful foods that are delicious and beneficial - so why should I bother with something that isn't going to make me feel on top of the world!!


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. I have just recently started taking milk thistle as well. I am concerned because I don't feel any noticeable difference for the better. If anything, I feel more irritable and irregular, loss of energy, and bloated.


You said that you are taking milk thistle, milk thistle can have an estrogenic effect on the body, which causes all of those symptoms. I know that I felt the same when I took it. Maybe give it a break for a bit and see how you feel.
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I did better on the Type O diet than on the regular Explorer diet.  The main problem seemed to be the dairy that Explorers can have.  Another issue is all the sweeteners that are Super Beneficial.  I have blood sugar issues, and I do best on a Low Carb (Low Glycemic Index) diet.

What made you want to try the Genotype diet?  Were you having issues on the Type A diet?  If not, just go back to it.  But if the Type A still isn't the best for you, try the SWAMI.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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This is off subject from the last few posts, but i have been pretty much coffee free for almost a month, except for two small cups and one cheat thursday evening.  I have felt much "cleaner" and ironically have more energy.

I drank an irish cream ice latte thursday and it left me feeling "off" all friday, scrambling mentally and trying to remain cool and calm being in the office all day.  I also did not sleep more than an hour that thursday night!  The cream really bloated me.  I don't even desire the stuff anymore.  Unfortunately, i drink some caffeine from other sources on occassion, like sodas, but not frequently.

I am also drinking a lot more water.
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I am actually a very good-natured person, almost always wake up in a good mood, but stress will make me bad tempered.  But when it's really BIG stress, like major life changes, I seem to take it in stride.  It's just the ordinary daily stressors that make me want to pull my hair out.  Tell me the world has turned upside down, however, and I come into my own, functioning quite well on overdrive (and adrenaline I suppose).  I think THAT must be very explorer-like.


I really agree with this, same here. I will handle big crisis better than most, but get really stress out by little cumulative things. Wondering if this is a Cortisol versus Adrenaline thing?


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I am like that!  The little dumb things are what i get mad at, esp when i was eating poorly and drinking a lot of caffeine and alcohol.  Exercising for me gets that energy feeling more normal and not excessive.  
I am normally very easygoing, but some things for some reason aggravate me and cause an exaggerated response that i am trying hard to control.  Can't be good for me as i get older.


Definitely agree about the caffeine. According to the Genotype Diet I was a Teacher but with Swami I was an Explorer. Felt so much more accurate. Caffeine can really make a stress basket. Same on the exercise. It makes everything OK and without it everything can be stressful. After completely removing caffeine from my diet, regular exercise is my 2nd big health habit to establish.


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As a whole group, I wouldn't think that stress would be at the top of the issues list for Explorers.  With our thinking outside the box, doing it our way does in my opinion make us pretty good problem solvers.     

Reacting to chemicals, drugs and even too much of a good food can throw me off.  I even have to watch supplements and especially herbs      Guess it's the liver doing it his/her way  

Anybody else like this?



Yes, definitely I'm like this. Caffeine is the strongest example but I also had a very bad experience with a pain killer after surgery 2 years ago. Caffeine keeps me up for hours and hours.



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Explorers can be meso ectomorphic, but still muscular and strong boned, not slightly built.  And teachers have a lot of whorl fingerprints while explorers tend to have mainly loops.

Can any explorers be slightly built? Or would that suggest teacher? I have two whorls very slightly built and sinewy ectomorph, secretor, A positive, both index fingers longer than ring fingers, square jaw . i'll put the swamii data again, it may have been due to the fact that i ticked the environmental allergy box. i have a suspected cat allergy that my histamine levels are always high and i have a cat, which make me a bit reactive. On the measurment table in the book I am a teacher.


My understanding is that there are a lot of different factors that go into Swami determining your predominant Genotype. We all have a number of the Genotypes in us but what Swami tells you is the one you have the highest percentage of. Your Swami diet is not the diet for that Genotype as found in the Genotype Diet book. It is a very specific diet tailored to your unique mix. So you may have a teacher frame, but there are so many other Explorer features to your makeup that this is still the predominant Genotype. Your diet however is far more than this Genotype, it is diet for you personally!

Also on looking at my Swami diet I realized that so many factors are really common sense for just about anyone. For instance please tell me anyone if they had Swami tell them that Ice cream was neutral, I'd say that is always an avoid, or Liquor under the beverage selection. It seems all diets for any genotype recommend quite a bit of fresh vegetables and fruits, more than most people normally eat in our modern world.





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I am confused as for which excersise is best for me. I am computed as an explorer but I have a teacher geno type frame. Nothing muscular at all and a very petite ectomorph leg and body length equal. I tried running before whilst on anti-depressants and kept it up for a few months, having come off of the anti depressants my cortisol levels were far too high during a run, a run would knock me out for a week. My brother and mother are teacher genotypes. I am confused if an explorer is supposed to be very musclar and asymmetrical as I am neither apart from my fingerprints. The teacher body type fits me. If on the swami I am explorer why does it say I should run?


I think there is running and then there is running. Go online and download a "Couch to 5K" running plan and you'll often find they recommend very gradually switching from walking 6 minutes and running 30 second intervals to eventually after a few months running continuously for the full duration. Straining when starting an exercise program is incredibly common and few people ramp up gradually the way they are supposed to.

Also check out a book called "Chi Running". There is a way to run that is not hard on your body, by having the correct posture. Most people run badly and damage their joints on longer runs. With Chi Running you will be able to run without injury and have a much better experience.


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